S#!T Storm- Poison Dirt Everywhere

No BS Newshour Episode #418

S#!T Storm- Poison Dirt Everywhere

 

(5:24) We’ve got the Whistleblowers laying out the scheme.

The Feds have their numbers.

 

(11:42) One alleges Duggan-backed company ran wild and ran a double set of books.

 

(29:34) Another claims thousands of tons of highly toxic dirt was shipped from Southfield and dumped in Detroit.

 

(46:29) Meanwhile Duggan had left Detroit broke and spiraling toward bankruptcy.  

 

(50:36) AND- CEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY at the Mackinac Policy Pig F**k.

 

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TRANSCIPTION:

It’s the day after Tuesday and it’s the No Bullshit News Hour, your favorite news day of the week. Guess what happened to me this week? Loverboy left me standing in a monsoon. Let me explain.

I’d been invited to his press conference for an exclusive interview to hear Loverboy’s side of things regarding the mass poisoning in Detroit. Then, thinking better of it, Loverboy had me put out on the street. I was standing on Jefferson when the heavens opened.

The bums at the bus stop scattered. My papers got drenched, but that’s okay. I had the subject matter memorized.

Good thing I brought this bullhorn. I shouted my questions over the howling winds while Loverboy was six floors up spinning the media with tales of woe and done me wrong. I hoped that they could hear me up there.

Loverboy, the former consort of Detroit Mayor Mary Sheffield, is also known by his government name, Ryan McKinney. He’s being investigated by a host of law enforcement agencies, including the FBI. Why? For allegedly faking receipts for clean dirt, charging the city top dollar for it, and then turning around and dumping the toxic garbage into the neighborhoods where kids live when it should have gone to a landfill.

McKinney, also the owner of the now defunct Guyanga Company, agrees that the city’s been poisoned, but he blames the minions of Mayor Mike Duggan for supplying him with the toxic dirt. The cleanup could cost more than $100 million and send the city spiraling back into bankruptcy, and I’ll explain that to you a little later. It’s important because he wants to be your governor, and we don’t want Michigan going bankrupt.

I’ll give you the numbers, but let me tell you about this number. $100 million is exactly the same amount McKinney is suing the Detroit Inspector General for. He claims the defamed him for inspecting his work.

Now, this is like O.J. Simpson suing the LAPD for investigating a break-in. No doubt O.J. did it, but I don’t know if McKinney did. I’ll leave that to Johnny Law and the courts.

Sheffield, Duggan, and the city council are all hiding in their badger holes, leaving concerned citizens in the dark. So, in the interest of public health and awareness, I shouted what I thought were a few important questions through the purifying rains. Did he remember Mike? Mike was the former foreman in charge of writing up the questionable dirt receipts.

Mike reached out to me last week, claiming the receipts were forgeries. Mike sent me copies of tickets written in his own hand, showing truck drivers allegedly being in two different places, collecting dirt at the same time. Was Loverboy aware of this? Mike claims he is.

But what about McKinney’s former bookkeeper who alleges there was a forgery mill going on in the back office? Is he aware if the feds have talked to the bookkeeper or the supervisor from Northland Redevelopment Job in Southfield, where it’s alleged that contaminated dirt from there went into Guyenga’s demolition holes? Does McKinney know that the supervisor too may be cooperating with authorities? Did he discuss business with then city councilwoman Sheffield while they were getting to know each other at the Miami hotel underneath 350 thread count sheets made from 100% long stable Supima cotton with a sateen finish? Did he? Sheffield told the public last fall that she never voted on a contract for Guyenga while she was canoodling with McKinney. But that turned out to be a lie. And how did McKinney meet Mayor Mike Duggan? How did he become his honors preferred minority contractor? Why was he allowed to work without construction insurance? Did Duggan appoint him to the Detroit Institute of Arts Board of Directors? Is McKinney now a collector of fine art? Did he attend Duggan’s wedding? What about the millions of dollars subcontractors claim they were owed by McKinney? Who’s going to pay them? Who’s going to pay for the massive cleanup? How did McKinney link up with Bobby Ferguson’s old crew? While Bobby was doing time in federal prison for Kwame related things, McKinney became business partner with Bobby’s ex-wife.

He hired Bobby’s cousin. He used Bobby’s equipment in staging yard. I had more questions, but the tropical winds were really buffeting by then.

Dirt was blowing in my eyes, and there’s no telling where it came from. You guys want to see it? Yes. Roll it.

What am I doing standing in a monsoon? I’ll tell you what I’m doing in a monsoon. I was supposed to be up there to do an exclusive interview with Brian McKinney, otherwise known as the lover boy, who was canoodling with Mayor Mary Sheffield. He stands accused of throwing poison dirt all around the city of Detroit.

Well, he got cold feet, and I’m not even allowed at the press conference, so we’ll wait for him down here. I’ve got questions. I got something in my eye.

You said the city allowed you to use contaminated dirt. That’s a hell of a statement. We didn’t question the public source.

There’s an email from the city. They’re saying you can use them. For us, it was like a blanket of security.

Your old supervisor from the street, Mike, he sent me these receipts. He said they’re bogus. They’re counterfeit, that you put shitty dirt in the neighborhood and then pass off these counterfeit as being clean.

That’s what he said. Come on down. I just got some questions.

That’s all. I’m just saying. Here’s one from your bookkeeper.

She alleges that you had a forgery mill going on at the back offices. I don’t know. That’s what she says.

I’m just asking. How much money did you make, Brian? Sixty-four? Sixty-eight? How many million? How much is this going to cost to clean up? It’s $50,000 a haul. We don’t got no money.

Did you discuss contracts with Mary Sheffield while you were canoodling in the Four Seasons in Miami, or do you not mix business and pleasure? Were you and Mary Sheffield carrying on while your wife was pregnant? Is that why she got so mad that she got a personal protection order? I didn’t bring it up. You did. What did Doug know and when did he know it? How did he find you? Brian, please stand up.

We’re glad to have a Detroit product back home. How’d you get on the DIA board? Who put you there? Fine Art. I heard you’re an art collector now.

You’re holding stuff in Switzerland? It’s the word. I’m just asking. Did you go to Duggan’s wedding? You’re going to vote for him for governor? Tell him about the FBI.

All them people that you allegedly didn’t pay, they’re real mad. They know you got paid. Thanks, Mr. Mayor.

Come on down, little guy. Come on down. Live from downtown Detroit, it’s the No Bullshit News Hour with my main man, Charlene LeDoux and Jared Nubes.

Is this the hole-in-one? It’s hole-in-one, $50,000 if you hit it. Luke Nowacki, Financial Wealth Management. What is 50 grand after tax? $37,750.

What about state tax? Yeah, I’m throwing both in there. What about sales tax? There’s no sales tax. Well, you’re buying the beer.

It’s income. You’re buying the beer. Eh, we write that off.

Luke Nowacki, Financial Wealth Management. Expense allowance. 248-663-4748.

248-663-4748. Give me a drop here. To bring dirt in from 30 or 40 miles away, it was a big deal.

It was the trucking expense. To bring dirt in from 30 or 40 miles away, it was the trucking expense. To bring dirt in from 30 or 40 miles away, it was the trucking expense.

So was it the trucking expense because you’re bringing dirt in from 30 or 40 miles away? It must be. He keeps repeating it, right? Yeah, man. If he keeps saying it, does it make it true? Does that make it true? Like all your stories, it’s false.

We got that drop. We got this one. This one going back a decade.

Like most of your stories, it’s false. Jesus. That’s okay.

Keep going. Did it freeze on you? No, we’re good. We’re being sabotaged.

Oh, you didn’t do the loop. I didn’t loop that one. You fucked me.

I know. God damn it. Like most of your stories, it’s false.

I send it to you in a loop. I had to do that 10 years ago on a phone. I mean, I was so proud of myself.

Now we got AI out there. It’s like, man, look how junky this fucking show is. I did find a better copy of it though, didn’t I? Oh, I sent you something.

Yeah. And then you decided you were going to take matters into your own hands. And oh, I’m kind of anal for good quality.

Yeah. But then you just fucked it all up. See, my vibes all fucked up.

No, I think I got you going. I did it on purpose to fire you up. Everything’s fine.

Don’t worry about it. All right. Look, man, this is really serious.

I’m going to give you Detroit’s budgetary meltdown here. Southfield, again, engaged in covering this up. It wouldn’t come from 30 and 40 miles away.

It appears to be fraudulent. This isn’t me. Everybody’s coming out of the woodwork now, right? What are you doing there? What’s that? That is a slide you sent me of the budget.

Did you throw that up there? No, not yet. Yeah, don’t throw that up there. You want to see it? No, you’re messing me up now.

Show killer. Pay attention to the program. Come on.

All right. I’m also training. We’re breaking in our new board op over there.

We’re just having fun. She’s doing a wonderful job. Yeah.

Yes. How you doing? She looks familiar. All right.

They’re coming out of the woodwork. It’s important to say the authorities organized crime unit has issued a dozen subpoenas, interviewed eight dozen people, seven dozen people, reams of documents. And I got dozens of people calling me all involved in this.

I got one last week, this guy named Mike. Mike was sort of like the street foreman for Guyanga. He was the one that was writing up the receipt.

Look at it this way. Instead of providing the city with the receipt from the gravel yard where you actually got it, what you paid for it, what the weightage was, what the city did forever, Duggan allowed it. He was told by the feds to stop it.

He didn’t. He’s very aware of this. They just let the contractors fill out their own tickets and say, we got it from there.

And this is how much it weighed, signed me and the truck driver. Well, the guy that was in charge on the streets are writing these up, got ahold of me and he, let me just call him. Yeah.

All right. Let me just call Mike and see if he’ll pick up. I can’t believe they’d allow them to fill out.

Dude, in 2016, when the feds said a quarter billion dollars, they shut the program down because of all, this was a decade ago. They went into an agreement saying, you now got to prove the origin. We need receipts from the place.

You got it. Not from you, but from where you got it. It was so painfully obvious.

Duggan signed off on it. He went to Chicago to meet with treasury officials. They put it in the state rules because the money goes from the feds to the state, that a city bullshit bureaucracy, right? Three years later, the treasury agents, feds subpoenaed all of those.

They didn’t exist. They didn’t exist. So they said to the city, Hey, we got $13 million, uh, which is 5% of all the money they sent that you can’t even account for in these couple of years, city ended into a and they kept, they kept going on.

Then this people of Detroit passed a bond to keep going with this and they didn’t put it in there either. And then whistleblowers against guy, Angus said, Hey man, they’re picking up Northland shit and dumping it in the city. They were investigated by the OIG.

OIG said, we don’t have any receipts. The tickets look nice, but we don’t have any receipts from the yard. So we can’t do much about it.

Now, here we are. Hey, while you’re calling Mike, have you ever, I mean, you’ve covered a lot of these, uh, scan, you’ve uncovered a lot of these scandals. I’m surprised by the number of whistleblowers that have come forward that you have talked to on this program, right? Program.

And I, you know, I, I know other things, but this program in particular, you know, they’re willing to come forward and talk. Have you experienced like a story that has this many whistleblowers? No, sir. It’s really hard.

Uh, that says a lot. It’s really hard to get the treasury agents to talk to you, but they get so frustrated. Like rightfully so there are, this is a scandal.

And let me just make it clear. Why is it folks? Because the, the material we’re talking about causes cancer in the longterm. It causes cancer and they dumped it on the people of Detroit and quite obviously, quite probably the people of Southfield and anybody living in those environments, you got, you got smoke.

I hope Mike fucking picks up. Hope I don’t freak him out. Hey, is this Mike? Hey man, it’s Ladoff.

How you doing? Real good, man. Um, well, you know, we’re in the middle of some heavy shit here, as you know, I went to the press conference and, you know, got put out in the rain. So, um, I’m hoping you wouldn’t mind answering a few questions for us.

Yeah, I don’t mind, man. We can talk. Okay.

So back a couple of years ago, you were like, what would you do for Guyanga there? Well, I was actually like one of the first helped them start the company. So I was, uh, I was just concrete foreman slash, uh, water foreman with, for the laborers. And when you also the guy out there, like making tickets for the dirt, the origins of the dirt.

Yeah, that was part of my job. Okay. So you sent me a bunch of them and tell me if I got this right or wrong.

It looks to me like you got a truck driver appearing to be in three different locations around the city, picking up dirt when they couldn’t have been at three different places at the same time. Is that right? Yeah. So basically I was told, uh, when they were sending me out to the site, they put me out to the site to get rid of me.

Cause I was already asking too many questions. They sent me out to the site, to the, uh, to the graveyard. And when I got out there, they told me to make two, I have really three tickets I had to write out.

So, and they wanted one ticket to always have the same address on it. And then the other ticket would another address. And then I had to put, uh, the correct address on there for the, uh, for the truck driver’s ticket.

So all together, it was either between two to three tickets, every transaction that happened. And then, uh, you know, I raised a concern about that one. And then, you know, I was basically getting, I was pushing myself further out the door.

Cause I was almost what you would call a whistleblower because things weren’t right. And I didn’t want to, I didn’t want to have a part of it, man. So let me, let me see if I got this right.

So they sent you out to like the, the graveyard, right? That’s, that’s where like a load of dirt is going to be picked up. So you write a ticket for that graveyard and it’s going to Cherry Lawn, right? We got the dirt from, from the graveyard and we’re taking it to Cherry Lawn, correct? Right. Okay.

And then the truck driver would sign his name and you would sign your name, right? Right. Okay. Then I’m going to cut you off.

But if you look at the tickets, the origin of the dirt is not the same. Exactly. So then you would write a second ticket saying they were at another graveyard or another gravel pit and it was being delivered to Cherry Lawn, right? Absolutely.

Okay. But nobody ever went to the gravel pit or the other graveyard. You were just writing these up to be used for later.

They never picked it up from these other sites. No, because they couldn’t have, because they was actually picking it up for me. And you were the one filling it out saying they were also getting them from the other sites, right? Yeah, basically.

I mean, yeah. Why did you do that? Who told you to do that? Oh, it was a guy named was his go-to guy. I can’t think of his last name, a little short guy.

He was a, he was a, he was a real tool, man. So this was coming, this was coming from Guyangia headquarters, fill out these fake tickets. Absolutely.

Yeah. I didn’t know what the dirt we sent out. I don’t know exactly what happened.

It kept me in the dark about it. Yeah. I just, I just know it was something shady going on.

So all you were doing is okay. Filling out tickets for work that didn’t exist, turning them in and they were going to do whatever they were going to do. Absolutely.

Wow. I want to ask questions about it, man. I pretty much got admonished.

It was, uh, it, things that started changing. I’ve run that real fast, man. Thanks.

Thanks. Change real quick. When Brian initially started, man, Brian was this real humble guy, man.

Came to the city. He came to the union hall, got us. He said he wanted to do everything by the book.

He didn’t, he wasn’t, uh, we, we built that company off of not cutting corners, period. Once, uh, he bought in this, uh, red tech crew, he bought in after us, everything changed. He didn’t want to pay union scale anymore.

He, uh, he cut corners everywhere he could. And then he started getting real cocky and getting violent. He grabbed a dude up in the collar of his shirt, talking smack to him.

And he started talking smack to me to, uh, dude, get this guy to beat me up as if he couldn’t beat me up. Anyway, he was trying to get me jumped on the job. Like it was, it was becoming a, not a good place to work at.

Well, it sounds to me like the city really did want to fucking know this is pretty easy. You, you send inspectors out. Yeah.

So was this a case of a city hall just wanted the job done fast so they could have headlines and they, they didn’t care about the city man to be honest with you. I just know that, uh, the guys that he had working for him. What do you mean? I know that like people went from the city to work for him, right? Yeah.

So I, I was one of the first ones that got let go. Sorry. I mean, I was one of the first, I was one of the first ones that got let go though.

So, and they let me go because I speak my mind. So you don’t know a higher level. You just know what you knew, like standing over a dirt pile.

That’s right. Well, I was, that’s the thing. I was standing over a dirt pile man, because I was at a higher level.

I was letting them know that they wasn’t doing what they supposed to be doing. Even when I told you about the sidewalks, man, I was supposed to, cause I was over in the concrete division. So when the thing started, when I was supposed to actually run it the correct way, he bought in his, he bought in a whole new crew man that used to work with Bobby Ferguson.

I don’t know anything about Bobby. It’s not me trying to bash him. I don’t know nothing about this guy, but I know that the crew he bought in was ranching, man.

And they, when they came in, the dirt and the sand we put in, it wasn’t my thing. I raised it. Hey, do me a favor and break it up a little bit.

Can you like fix the phone or something? I’m barely hearing you. Is this better? Oh yeah. What were you doing? Oh, I had you on my phone.

We might as well hire you over here to work ops. And so, um, anyway, like I said, I was over the concrete division and when they bought in the, uh, this red tag crew, cause I, he, he won’t let me get a crew. I want it cause he didn’t want to pay him.

He bought in a crew debt. So we was doing union work, but he bought in a non-union crew to do the work and just paid me to scale the union scale. And when they came in, I was supposed to be quotes supposed to be in charge, but they had another guy in charge.

And that was right. We go through the whole, uh, city. We didn’t compact it.

I’m telling them we need to compact the dirt. They didn’t want to compact the dirt. The inspector came out, shut us down for a minute.

So we had to compact the dirt. We supposed to put four inches of concrete through the city. When the guys came out, he didn’t, they didn’t want to take my lead on when, when, when it was ready, they just call concrete.

So I show up in the morning time. We don’t even have the rails up to do the concrete. We porn.

So some of the, so some of the sidewalks that we put in there probably got two inches of concrete in there, man. Oh boy. And that’s, it’s expensive, but let me, it was expensive, man.

Absolutely. Yeah. Cause a lot of it, uh, mayor Sheffield just coming out going, uh, we’re spending $10 million to upgrade the city sidewalks, but we know a bunch of sidewalks.

We know that from our previous reporting never got done. Yeah. A lot of them did get done and the company was getting paid anyway.

So they got friends in high places. Obviously. Think about this.

You start a company, you come in and you’re saying, Hey, this is going to be good for the community. We’re going to help our young black kids to be able to learn the trades and be able to get some of the money too. So we came in thinking that we’re going to helping out the community.

He came in using the, uh, pre apprenticeship program, which is a program where the young guys would come in and work for a duration of time and then move on to the, move on to the apprenticeship part, which was boost up their money. And then they get paid more and more as they go on, the more they learn what he was doing is they’ll come in and the pre-apprenticeship program, they’ll work their duration of time. And when it was time for them to move on, he would get rid of them and call in some more guys.

Well, let’s, let’s tighten this up, Mike. Let’s let’s, let’s focus on this dirt here. Okay.

Okay. Um, so you were instructed to write tickets for getting dirt that never got got right. Right.

Okay. And so dirt was coming in from someplace you don’t know, but it wasn’t coming in from the place you were writing the tickets. Is that correct? No, Charlie, this is what’s what’s happening was I was, I don’t know about any other dirt.

I can say that when the trucks came to where I was at, I felt out the tickets that I was asked to fill out. And when those trucks left, I don’t know if they went to go get dirt somewhere else. I know the truck was full when they left me.

Now, anywhere they go, they got to get the ticket from anybody else that’s running that site. So when they left me, they left stone, like say for instance, the stone was the trucking company. Yeah.

Stone would have their ticket, but the other two tickets was guy on the ticket so they can have for their records. So they was running two sets of books for their own records. They were running two sets of books.

So there was one real truck and then two, two fake trucks. Well, not fake truck. It was like fake loads.

Yeah. The load, uh, once one ticket had the, uh, the one ticket had the correct ticket. The other ticket was, was a, was a, uh, a make-believe.

Okay. Okay. Let’s just sit there.

Let that sit for a minute. Okay. Um, do you feel comfortable giving us your last name? To be honest with you? No, because I had put this behind me, Charlie.

Like I said, you can see by me getting off course with it, they, uh, kind of messed my life up a great bit. I was doing pretty good before I met them. And have you talked to the authorities? No, I never talked to authorities.

I just got away from there. Okay. Interesting.

And, uh, would you be willing to? No, it’s not really something I really want to put my family through, man. And I got, my career is flourishing right now. And I don’t know if I want my, uh, my job, well, cause I’m still doing construction.

Right. I don’t, you know what I’m saying? And that’s kind of, you know, kind of frowned upon in this industry. Remember that, you know? Well, I checked out, I checked up on you.

This is, this is legit. I have the records. I know people you worked with.

Yes, sir. Why’d you call me? Well, because I figure when I, when, uh, when, when the person you talked to talking about, I was like, yeah, you know what? If I can’t help, I will help. You know what I’m saying? But at the same time, I don’t want to have to watch over my shoulder.

You know, this guy, Brian ain’t who you guys think he is. You know, he got a little bit, he got, he got some muscle out here, man. So, but like I said, I moved on with my life.

I don’t want to look over my shoulder to wonder if, if, if somebody’s going to try to do something to me or my family. I can appreciate that. I believe me.

I can appreciate that. I know, I know what you’re going through. I, I appreciate you stepping up, leading this investigation where it needs to go.

You’re not the only one. There’s at least a dozen. And, um, what I’m going to do, I’m going to thank you.

I’m going to say goodbye. I’ll call you later today. Okay.

All right. Thanks brother. All right.

Take it easy, bro. Okay. Wow.

What a story. So we got a contractor back there. You could just have you ever heard anything like this? He’s seen it, but not this bad.

That is incredible. That’s, that’s a former foreman. That’s, that’s not me.

How would I know? It sounds so mafioso in a way where you have strong men. I’m not saying it is, but where you have strong men and just the fact that he’s scared to say anything, um, to the feds or to anybody investigating it because he’s afraid of retribution. He’s, he’s got the receipts.

Yeah. He kept them all. Yeah.

Holy shit. Okay. Let’s, uh, I got a thought, but let’s, let’s hear from XG.

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So, so many people are coming out of the woodwork on this thing. It should not be hard to put a case together. Let’s, let’s go to Southfield for a second was and is Southfield Poison.

I got a guy, whistleblower. What’s his, he’s still in the business. So we’re going to call him Northland Frank.

Okay. He wants his voice changed. Can you do that? Yeah.

Okay. Let me, let me call him up here and.

See if he’s available. Hope he is, it’d be a shitty segment of the show. Hello.

Hey, is this Northland Frank? Yes it is. How you doing bro? Doing well, how are you? Good, listen, so the audience knows, you reached out to me a number of weeks ago and were laying out to me what was going on at the Northland site for those years you worked there, yeah? Yes. Okay, now just like we’re on the phone is, you know, with me going no shit and you laying it out, what was going on there, how did it work, where were those trucks going? So I was a contractor on the site working for Contour years back.

Contour on a daily basis would, was called brokering trucks, semi-trucks to come pick up dirt from the site, which would be some days was five trucks, some days was 15 trucks, and then the operators would load the trucks and the truck drivers would tell us they got addresses all over the city from various people at that company, they would go drop dirt in demolition holes day after day after day after day, address after address after address. Each truck hauls on average from 25 to 30 tons of dirt and you figure if they work a 10 hour day, they probably haul six loads out, you know, multiply that by say an average of eight, that’s a lot of dirt that went all over the city. And the thing is like would you work as a contractor, would you work on a site that people know has contaminated soil, there’s something called a res app, which tells the workers that the soil is contaminated and that you have to wear the proper PPP or PPE, whatever you want to call it, and you’re supposed to sign like a waiver saying yes I understand the dirt’s contaminated.

That being said, there’s multiple ways dirt could be contaminated. One, chemically with like arsenic and like whatever hexavalent chromosome or whatever that was in like the Arab Rockfish movie, or it could be contaminated with debris, rock, non-organic stuff like rock and concrete and asphalt and whatever. So everybody that worked there knew that the soil was contaminated in multiple ways.

The truck drivers knew, I don’t know who they knew at Guyanga, but they knew people at Guyanga, Guyanga would shoot them addresses, the truckers would take the dirt there and dump it. Did you keep a log of any of this? That wasn’t my end of the world. I’m sure somebody did.

Truckers have to have manifests and then they have to have signed tickets from when they get loaded and then when they dump, they’re supposed to have what’s called a manifest. So somebody somewhere has that, but that wasn’t what I did for a living. So they were supposed to turn in like where they dumped it and where they got the new dirt, but all they really had to do was just make up their tickets.

Yeah, they’re pretty easily forged, especially if no one’s paying attention. And like at that site, there was a guy, there was only one construction entrance and he had to sign people in and out all day every day. So if somebody has those tickets, Contour would definitely have them.

I don’t know if that guy works there or not, I have no idea anymore. I haven’t been there in a while. So about 150 tons a day, what, five days a week? Oh yeah.

Seven months a year? No, more than 150. It would be five times, let’s say 25 times seven. What’s that? Oh, five trucks, 25 yards per ton, seven times a day.

It’s over a thousand tons, yeah. A day, yeah, a day. Oh, a day? Yeah.

Wow. There was, I remember one of the managers telling me they had like 400,000 yards of dirt that were in the way, quote unquote, in the way on site. And the theory was what we were told back then was no dirt was ever supposed to leave that site because everybody knew it was contaminated.

There was testing companies out there that tested the dirt and would say no dirt should ever, ever, ever leave this site. It’s contaminated. Do you understand? And we’re like, well, it ain’t us, man.

You got to tell Contour, not us. We’re fricking plumbers and electricians and you know what I mean? We don’t do shit with the dirt, don’t tell us. You know what’s crazy? There was a day we were out there and then, I don’t know who was digging, but in the corner opposite of the Costco, like over toward Greenfield, they were digging and digging and digging.

There was a bunch of dudes over there digging and digging. And all of a sudden, the whole site smelled like gasoline. I mean, like heavy, heavy, heavy gasoline order.

And that’s a big freaking site. It’s a hundred something acres, right? We’re all like, what the? So one of the operators came over and told us they hit two, I don’t remember how big, but two massive underground fuel storage tanks. When they pulled them out of the ground, they were as big as like a bus, swear to God.

And it was gas at them still. And then he said they dug more underground hydraulic tanks, underground hydraulic blinds, underground hydraulic hoists. There was a ton of stuff under that ground.

Did you take it out? Uh, they did. I remember seeing other trucks come in and, um, I don’t remember, oddly, Eagle should have been there, but I don’t remember Eagle being there for that. You know, I wasn’t there necessarily every day that they were working on that.

Um, so they could have done it the right way or maybe they didn’t. I don’t honestly know. I think they did.

I got a report. It was over by that Firestone area. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There used to be a Firestone. Before that, there was like a gas station. There was a whole bunch of different uses.

So look, man, how toxic was this dirt? Some of it is toxic to the point it’s PCBs and PBBs, which you’d have to look it up. I don’t know. There was a lot of arsenic, but that being said, most of the dirt in Michigan’s got some lot of arsenic.

There’s things like barium. There’s, there’s various bad stuff, but there was a, so when I worked there, there was like one, two, three, four, probably seven piles of dirt, big freaking piles. And they said two of them were just nasty, like nasty, avoid them, don’t go near them.

Some of the other ones were just bad. And all that stuff got shipped in because the mayor of Southfield called for everybody to bring their dirt. Yeah, yeah.

So what we were told, um, Southfield bought that property with the intent on ripping down the mall and then ripping the whole thing down, ripping up the tunnels and the basements and then backfilling the whole thing, making it a flat piece of buildable dirt. That was their intent, but I guess the cost was exorbitant, which is not surprising. So it never came to fruition, but that was the intent.

And then the dirt, when it was, uh, the project was taken over by the developer, that was supposed to go to a landfill, but you’re saying you know that it went to Detroit? Oh yeah, yeah. Everybody that works on that site knows it went to Detroit. Everybody.

And we still got mounds of dirt over there blowing around the city of Southfield. Oh yeah. Is that a problem in your mind? There was days that it was windy.

It was like being in the desert with a sandstorm. It was just insanity. Cars would be coated.

There was people across, uh, the lodge on the other side of the lodge freeway that would call and complain. And then Southfield would come warm, they’ll come to our people, say, hey man, you gotta like, maybe you gotta buy a water truck or rent a water truck or whatever, and keep the whole site wet so the dust wouldn’t fly around. Yeah.

Oh yeah. What a fucking mess. Oh dude.

I’m happy I’m not there anymore. So how did the truck drivers working on the demolition jobs find out about the Northland dirt was there for the taking? Uh, I don’t know that. I think David hired all the truckers, like, independently.

Cause they were all brokers. They weren’t like, um, wasn’t like a big company. It was like five or six mom and pop operations.

I think he just found them and hired them. I’m sure it was based on how cheap they were. Cause that’s the only way he does everything is he hires the cheapest available, whatever.

Um, yeah. You know, in the original story we did last year, almost a year now, about 11 months ago, we talked to some of those independent trucking firms. So that, that’s how this whole now, uh, federal investigation began was a couple of whistleblowers working those jobs.

They kept tickets. They kept manifests. Awesome.

So, um, so have you been contacted or are you cooperating with any law enforcement agencies? There’s things I’m not allowed to talk about. Say what? There’s things I’m not allowed to talk about. There’s things you’re not allowed to talk about.

Yeah. This, yeah. Okay.

Let’s, so let’s step back 40,000 feet. This is a major, major scandal. Is it not? I would bet you there’s, I know where they tested what, like 43 basements or something like that.

And, uh, some percentage pop-pop there’s going to be, if they really, really pardon the pun, if they really dig into this, they’re going to find thousands. Yeah. And that seems to be the play here, man.

Everybody wants to diminish the potentiality of it. Right. Just try to keep it down to a thousand and call it a day.

But I think about the cost. I mean, I don’t know. You’d have to Google it.

I’m sure you could Google you know, a typical basement, what, 30 by 30 by eight, you know, how much, how much dirt would fill a 30 by 30 by eight foot deep basement. And then do the math, you know, a thousand yards a day, you know, you could, you could come up with a rough number, probably three years of trucking dirt out. I would say, you know, it’s a big number, man.

There’s a bit out there just to, to remove the dirt from one of these houses and to replace it with actual healthy, clean stuff. $50,000 for one, one footprint. So if you had, if you had a thousand, what are we talking? 50 million? Yeah.

50 million. And that’s just the dirt. Yeah.

Yeah. They’re going to truck that dirt somewhere. They don’t take it.

There’s only certain landfills take chemically contaminated dirt. Pretty much anybody would take stuff with concrete in it, but it was chemically contaminated. There’s only certain landfills that take it and they even have a certain capacity.

So, you know, like, where is it all really going to go? So that that’s going to get really expensive. Yeah. You’re right.

The larger it gets, the more it costs, right? Shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. I’m sorry. I don’t know if I can swear or not.

No, you can, whatever you like. So I, I, I’m, I’m just flabbergasted because we both know that that dirt was tested. We know, I talked to many people, you know, dirt testers, you get my drift, et cetera.

Um, this is supposed to be a Brownfield. And in order to qualify for like Brownfield money, you know, state Brownfield money, city Brownfield money, County Brownfield money. That shit has to be tested.

You know, it was tested. You were watching it being tested. I’m running around trying to shake this shit out of the government.

Like where is it? And everybody’s playing dumb. Salt field has to have a copy. They said they didn’t, they have to have copies.

They have to have it tested. You have to pay. They sold it, right? They sold it to, uh, contour.

So they have to, they have to, what’s it called divulge. Um, you can’t hide shit or they could, they can like say the sale doesn’t go through. You have to, I can’t think of the game word, but you have to tell them what you know about the property and they know it as contaminated soil.

They know it. I mean, you can’t, you can’t have the soil without having it tested. Look, look, I don’t know if you know, but let’s look up, ask the Southfield people for their res app and they should, if they can’t provide that to you, then they’re really like, Oh, well, you know, I’ve made many appointments over to there and then nobody shows up.

I did a press was invited to, uh, interview at length, the owner of guy Anga. And then all of a sudden he got cold feet and I got left out in a monsoon when you know, you know, there’s, there are like, there’s Southfield city officials told me they know about this. It’s there.

It’s as big as Flint, I’m suspecting. And, and we’re all playing dumb. Yeah.

Yeah. A hundred percent. No one wants, no one gets caught foot in the bill.

Yeah. All right, man. Well, I appreciate that.

Of course we’ll be in touch with you. And, uh, thanks for stepping up. All right.

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Is this fucker on? Yeah. All right. Well, thanks for, uh, sitting through that folks.

I just thought it was important that we get you details because somebody, somebody going to have to pay for this and it’s not going to be the city of Detroit. I, I’m going to do this quick as possible. You saw the teen takeover yet.

14 year old taking one in the chest. I mean, they’re not even reporting all the different places this was happening. Palmer park, downtown, right? We, we just, we, we don’t have the police.

Let me give you a little story. There’s a firefighter 30 years on the job. Okay.

He’s insured by the city, right? But he’s got deductible. He caught cancer. State law says that’s to be assumed that he caught it on the job.

If it’s certain kind of cancer and you’re a firefighter, that’s workers comp, but the city refused to give them workers comp because the city doesn’t pay premiums to an insurer. They are self-insured. Got me so far.

Yep. Okay. So he tries to, you know, put it on his healthcare.

He’s got six figure deductibles. He’s got to pay all this shit. Insurance companies like, no, no, no, no, no.

That’s workers comp. So he’s, he’s caught in limbo. They’re trying to stiff the guy.

Yeah. Happy story is we make a few phone calls. They capitulate.

Good. Okay. That’s good.

What’s the, who capitulated city? Okay. But they don’t want to pay because they’re broke, right? The fire contracts come in due and they want to raise, there’s no money to give them a raise. So it’s going to go to arbitration and you’re going to find out just how broke the city is.

Give me a little Mike Duggan. Like all you, oh, you, you clipped that didn’t you? Which one? Like all your stories. It’s false.

Yeah. Like most of your stories. It’s false.

Yeah. I wanted my loop again. Like most of your stories.

It’s false. Like most of your stories. It’s false.

Like most of your stories. It’s false. Like most of your stories.

It’s false. There you go. How about that? One more time.

Hit me like most of your stories. It’s false. Okay.

So when Mike Duggan’s going off in his sunset and saying, like, he left the city financially healthy. There’s money for dirt. There’s no money for dirt.

It’s gone. It’s absolutely gone. There’s no money for cleanup.

Put up that little slide. And we just want to tell people this important so you can know the financial acumen of this guy. He wants to be your governor.

He running around with JP Morgan chase money, right? BSing. Here’s what we got. If you’re not watching and listening, here we go.

In fiscal year, 2013, the year the city went broke, the revenues collected were $1.1 billion adjusted for inflation. Okay. We all know what that is now in today’s money, money.

1.1 billion from 2013 is 1.57 billion. Okay. Like almost 1.6 billion.

That’s the revenue of the city took in the year of bankruptcy. This are the revenue projections from this year, from the, you know, the, the fiscal board, the, the oversight board of Detroit. What are we pulling in? They came up with fiscal year, 2026, 1.42 billion.

So 1.4 billion this year, 1.6 billion or 1.57, whatever 13 years ago, revenues shrank by $150 million, about 10%. What come back? We are desperate now. And since 2013 or 15, when the bankruptcy deal went through Detroit, didn’t have to pay its pensions, right? The foundations and the taxpayers of Michigan did now Detroit has to, we don’t have the money.

When Mike Duggan had that press conference and said, we have a surplus. This is how they did the surplus. They refinanced their debt.

And they said we had savings because our departments didn’t spend money. That means cuts. That means we’re not cleaning the streets.

That means we got dope addicts taking over abandoned apartment buildings on Greenfield. We’ve all seen it. That that’s what’s happening.

You’re getting less. You’re seeing less. You’re seeing control of the city spin out.

And that’s why it is dipshit Duggan got lost. Now we got, you just heard it from Mike. You heard it from Frank.

This is really bad. Mayor Southfield got to look out. How about some openness? No, I think the response would be some bunch of nonsense.

That’s what he said. That’s his typical response. It’s not a bunch of nonsense.

Those are official numbers. You know what I mean? I studied economics and finance and he studied lawyerly contract shit. That’s the deal.

We are like we’re in. We could be, as I said earlier, the top of show, we could be on our way spiraling back towards bankruptcy. That’s why there’s such panic.

There’s panic. We spent all that federal money and there’s nothing left. Okay, now we’re going to get out of here.

I thank you for listening. But before we go, I’m just going to spin this down to one. It’s in a, you know, latest in our new segment.

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