Detroit’s historic bankruptcy didn’t help the working man.
The only one doing better is the wealthy man… and we got the video.
And now their puppet, Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan, is coming after the home of the middle man.
Intelligent people on the left and the right see through the scheme.
Tonight Grover Norquist, professional tax revoltist and amateur comedian, is so far right he makes Ronald Reagan look like Karl Marx.
He says it all, “Keep your tax hiking hands off our freaking houses.”
Should you trust Duggan or Norquist?
Is Detroit really back?
Let’s do the math.
Plus- Does Whitmer really think she’s Barbie?
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We got one for you today. That clip, that is the outrageous update from the city owned Dope Den across from an elementary school. We’re going to bring that to you. And Detroit’s bankruptcy, the tenure anniversary. Did it work? The mayor of Detroit is now floating a new property tax. My question is, is he trying to steal your house? Grover Norquist, yes. President of Americans for Tax Reform joins us with his daughter. But first, no. What up? Yep. Yeah, I’m going to vouch for Grover. He’s a normal guy with a normal right? His Giselle’s real cool. That’s the Gen Z daughter that helped us, helped get online because none of us could figure it out. So there you go, girl. All right. Gen Z. You know what, Giselle? Get back in the camera.
Back. Yeah, look, listen, listen to the old man. It might be
No, this might
Be controversial. No, I’m being controversial.
She goes, it might be in controversial. And she has a Bobby Kennedy hat.
Yes. Bobby. Yes.
Oh, you too. Because Bobby Kennedy’s coming on the program. Oops, I, oops. Did I let the cat out? Yeah. Bobby’s coming. Bobby’s coming on. So his daughter, gen Z. I’m so happy. My daughter’s Gen Z. I’m so happy to know that there’s young women like that out there. Yes, but it breaks my heart because AI’s going to replace you all.
So smart. They created the creator that will replace them. See
My daughter, Grover’s daughter. Karen’s daughter. You’re never going to build a robot that’s going to replace beauty and depth like that. Not at all. That’s it. But okay, before we get into it, what was I supposed to say here, man. Message from David Hall. That’s it. Yeah. Okay.
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I’m going to be hitting them up for some renter’s insurance.
Are you going to do that? I
Oh, is that
Required? It’s in the lease, but you saw
It’s in the lease that you have to have renter’s insurance, and yet there’s no power boxes. Read we’re I went over to red. It red’s, the neighborhood’s so poor that he’s moving in and both power boxes got chiseled off the wall and somebody patched the power in, and yet Red’s got to have insurance. Okay.
Yeah, that’s for my own personal report. They stole the fucking power box. What would they do to my shit?
I’m telling you, man, they got everything there in your car. You’re going to need some car insurance. Yes. Okay. But tell the truth. Yeah, right. You might have to pay a little
Bit more. Farmington
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Well, here’s the danger. Whenever you divide people, it’s easier to mug them one at a time. Instead of saying the value of your home and your land will be taxed at X rate, then everybody knows what they’re paying and why. But to say land one thing, buildings another. Some people’s land is more valuable. Some people’s building is more valuable. And frankly, it’s awfully difficult to tell what the value of the land is. I worry whenever you move away from a single rate tax, say on the income tax, Michigan has a single rate tax on for your income tax. If they allowed a graduated or progressive income tax, they could divide you into 5, 6, 7 different groups and then raise your taxes one at a time, raising it over here, cutting it over there. The mayor would not want to change the rules unless he or she was getting more tax dollars out of it, and that they won’t tell you exactly how this is going to work out before they get the legislature to change the rules. Makes one worry.
So again, I mean, we’re looking at it like this. The pitch is Mr. And Mrs. Jones, you’re going to save $200 a year. Who doesn’t want to save $200? In fact, Grover, your whole life is predicated on saving $200 and getting the government out of your house. Yeah.
Okay. So that’s hypothetically what’s going to happen. But I’ve seen no numbers. And once we uncork basically in California, Michigan, we got a cap on this. So we can expect budget into the future, what our taxes are going to be. Yeah, it’s worked very well. Now all of a sudden we got a tax plan and the tax plan. Who wrote this tax plan? It’s a PhD student. It’s a PhD student. Does anybody Grover and you’re Mr. Tax in America. Does any big city do this split rate? I’m going to tax you one bit for your land and one bit for your structure. Does anybody do that?
The split we see most often is we’ll tax people’s houses at one rate and businesses at another. And that way they can go to the ballot and say, let’s have a vote to raise property taxes on grocery stores and barbershops on business. Not you. Not you. So you vote yes, and we’ll get all this money and we’ll do wonderful things with it, but you won’t pay for it unless of course you have a job at a grocery store or a barbershop or at a factory, then you pay for it at lower wages. So everything that divides citizens against each other, landowners versus property building owners, people with a business and people with a home, as long as in California, they treated them the same, both businesses and individual homes. And then the government came back and said, let’s detach the two. And that would’ve been a billions, tens of billions of dollar tax increase on businesses. And of course, businesses only get one money from one place, from consumers or by paying workers less. So they say it’s not a tax on you, but of course it is. That was voted down by the people of California. They saw through the fact that this, let’s treat, let’s separate how we treat them and change the rules for businesses that would lead to tax increases from now on.
So you’re telling me the people of California whose tax structure works, just like ours said, I’m not being fooled. Everybody wants to tax the business, man. Everybody wants to tax the rich man. I’m not being fooled when you’re going to try to break it off and tax him because probably somewhere down the line you’re coming to tax me more from my house too
Massachusetts before I move to the United States. Emigrated in, wait,
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you come in through the border?
Right across the border between Massachusetts and New Hampshire? Yeah.
Did you claim amnesty?
But as a kid, as a kid, I grew up in Massachusetts, then moved to America when I got older, but in Massachusetts they had a single rate tax for many years. And five times they put it on the ballot saying, well, let’s divide people in different groups and taxed ’em at different rates. And then very blue liberal Massachusetts, they’ve kept voting it down. They said, I know year one you’re going to tax the Kennedy kids, but then when you come from me, the Kennedy kids won’t be any help at all. And I’ll get tax hiked too.
And anybody here, you got a question?
Yeah, I was going to ask. So is that what people in Detroit should be thinking about when they hear this proposal from the mayor?
Well, one, it needs to be all written down completely before you have, wow, that sounds good. Wow.
What a genius this guy is.
And then when they pencil it in, it may be different. And people have already sort of announced that they’re for it and the press will go, well, we’ve really covered this issue already. Why fill in the blanks now? And now you could put a cap, say this would never raise any more taxes than before. Now mind you can raise a write a cap that doesn’t really cap anything. But my guess is from the history of the world, from the beginning of the world until now, politicians, reforms of taxes always lead to higher taxes.
I agree because Go ahead, red.
No, I was going to ask if this does go through, do you think it will pull any extra or more revenue for real? Or will it just be some money diverted into some pockets Question that do us No. Good. Great
Question. Let me set this up. Grover like, great, because what they’re telling us is the individual homeowner get a couple of hundred bucks. The owners of skyscrapers will get millions because the structures worth more than the postage stamp of land that it’s on. But somehow, if vacant land is taxed at a higher rate, that’s going to ignite so much development that it’s going to make up for all this lost revenue. Do you believe that?
Well, what vacant land with high taxes on it or has done today is to get people to leave their houses and their land and abandon it. That’s made things worse. Not better.
Wow. Look at this guy. Look at this guy. Because two thirds of the abandoned property in Detroit is actually owned by the city. They could give it away, right? Give it away and give you all kinds of sweeteners. You never have to pay a nickel for tax ever. Just please build something. And yet they don’t come.
Well, if you have higher taxes in general, if you do not provide safe streets, people will not move there. People move all the way to Florida that they’re certainly going to be willing to move out to a couple of miles out of the city.
And then imagine this, it’s a 10 year anniversary of the bankruptcy Grover, and there’s a lot of Bali hooey, it’s a lot of political Bali who, and if you want to hang out and watch me dissect it, you’re going to love it. But if property values have gone up, as the mayor says, right? Then if we’re going to break the Constitution and have a new tax structure, it has to be reassessed. If your house is worth more, then you’re going to pay more in taxes. So you’re promising at the current level of assessment, your taxes will go down. But as we know from the very liberal former mayor of Pittsburgh, he said, once we did the reassessment, taxes got so high, we had to drop this plan.
And I want to throw this out here in case people forgot. A lot of those homes that’s abandoned came from people who walked away through that over taxation with that 650 million. So I think they’ve kind of already proven it ain’t going to work.
Well, I don’t know. I don’t know about that. I mean, the overt taxation, that’s not particularly why they left, right?
Well, something did lose their home because of it.
But it stands, the reason, Grover, this is trickled down. Now, if you lower the tax burden, people will want to stay. People will want to come in and live here. The thought, right? But he’s saying save streets, right? Good services. This kind of plan might work in a town like Phoenix or Dallas, but they don’t use this. And you know why? Because it blows a huge hole in the budget. And then when there’s a huge hole in the budget, our schools are based on property taxes. And if property taxes fall and this development doesn’t come, then what are they going to have to do, Grover, to fund the schools they’re going to have to raise our
Taxes at. You also have a challenge where when you bring those assessments up, as the mayor’s likely to do, there’s an entire industry where relatives of the mayor and other city councilman, wait a minute, will help.
Wait, pause, pause, pause. How do you know that? What
You sure he don’t. Cause
It’s how others
Operate here. Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Alex.
It’s how other cities work too. And you go to, in Chicago, there’s a guy who will help you get your assessment fixed for large quantities of cash, but less than then he will reduce your taxes by getting your assessment challenged because he is a friend with the judge. And there’s, the whole industry is based on that. This happens in Texas too. So because assessments are, you know, can go either way on a certain amount of money. And if you’re friendly with somebody who’s friendly with a judge, you can make a big adjustment and people will pay through the nose to get that. So there’s an entire side industry of dealing with assessments.
This whole idea, this whole study, this whole PhD student, the PhD student used to work for the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation. Lot
Of people did that work.
Yeah, exactly. A lot of people, there are appointees of the mayor. The mayor answers to the oligarchs. The oligarchs are the one that funded the study. The oligarchs are the ones that own the skyscrapers that aren’t worth anything anymore. And Grover, this downtown office space, it’s, its a red herring now. It’s a bad investment all of a sudden. So why wouldn’t you go to your puppet in the mayor’s chair and say, do something about the taxes?
Yeah, cut some and then raise a lot of others.
Yeah. That’s talking to the homeowners around the state. They’re pitching this to you people as, you don’t have to join this kind of tax structure. It’s up to your municipality. Right? Detroit is going to UNC court, the constitutional guarantee that my property tax won’t go up so high that I’m going to be moving out. But if I know government, and if Karen knows government and Grover knows government, eventually, every jurisdiction has no choice. When rubber meets the road to go after your house, Karen, right? Yeah. When the city was going bankrupt, you were there. You were there. You were the one telling people, get off their ass. You were the one in the mayoral suite. It have been great just to be able to jack people’s taxes up to bail the city out of bankruptcy.
Well, I mean, it would’ve been easy, Charlie, and actually, I spoke to somebody today who said that the bankruptcy wasn’t necessary, had other things been done and other management tools been implemented and executed. So yeah, you’re absolutely right. But that’s not what happened. And here we are.
So Grover, I’m talking to the Republican side of this and I, they’re like, Hey, well, that’s great. It sounds good. It’s could ignite development in Detroit. There’s no conservative leadership, no fiscal conservatives. I don’t like Republicans at all. And I quit the Democrats a time ago. So I’m just looking at us. And if they’re not even looking into it, and they don’t even have office space. The party of Lincoln in Michigan is now working out of the backseat of a Lincoln. They got $90,000 in the bank, no office space, no leadership. What would you tell them? And again, I asked your people to give you the studies, and I didn’t tell ’em. Sure. I didn’t tell ’em to give you my feeling about it, looking at it. What would you tell the Republican caucus? What would you tell ’em about this?
The legislative caucus and the house and the Senate and the Republican Party should all be out digging deep into this and demanding that the whole plan be shared with people, not just the theory of the plan. And let’s see, are the people who are supposed to be building new skyscrapers or doing more development, are they willing to put in writing that? That’s what their reaction would be to this plan. Before you ask us to endorse it, could we see it in writing available to everybody online? Why in the world that PhD student, he’s going to tell me he only did the first half of the homework, and he’ll do the rest of the half after we agree to agree to something that we haven’t seen yet. This smells bad when people are not willing to say, here’s the whole plan. We’ll leave it out for everyone to look at for two months, and we’ll ask businesses, will you change the things?
When the Republican tax cut of 2017 passed, you saw companies and announced, we’re going to at t, we’re going to give everybody a thousand dollars pay increase because that’s how powerful this tax cut’s going to be. That we’re going to have to raise wages. And the utility companies announced we will be reducing utility costs because of that. And they put it in writing. Get in writing. Who is going to react to this plan when it’s in writing by raising wages, by investing more, by building new houses? What are they planning to do? Why is it a secret where this extra money is supposed to come from?
This is interesting. It’s the question this, it’s the question, and I have to put it like this. Grover NorQuest, president of Americans for tax reform, the guy who never met a tax cut, he didn’t like, said, this plan smells bad. Now, the very, very liberal former mayor of Pittsburgh says, this won’t work for a town like Detroit or Pittsburgh or Cleveland, where there is no demand for it. This is very interesting to me. Somebody on the very left, somebody on the very right, and we end this program in the middle. Agree. And yet it’s so amorphous, it’s so arcane that they’re already out there pitching it. And as Grover said, where’s the writing? Where are the numbers?
Well, remember, we are the city that gave Gilbert a bunch of money and we didn’t even have a drawing.
Right. And the big development we have, there’s no development in this town that’s not done with public money. Right? So Grover, if you could, going to prime me here. We’re going to workshop some drops, some cuts. Okay. Imagine it’s okay. It’s the newspapers tomorrow. Grover Norquist says, keep your hands off our fucking houses. Can you give me that? Can you give me a Keep your hands off our fucking houses. Come on. Dig, dude. Do it for us, bro. Give us something.
Don’t divide Detroiters into groups so you can mug them once at a time. This plan would divide Detroiters into different groups and mug them once at a time.
Statewide. Michiganders Michigan. Oh, I’m sorry. You would, that’s right. I thought they’re only going to sucker Detroit and I. There may be. Could be. No,
We’ve already been sucking a couple times.
Okay, well that’s close. Yeah. It’s not a yard sign though. So how about this? Keep your hands off our freaking houses.
Keep your tax hiking hands off our houses.
Okay, closer. Keep your tax hiking hands off our freaking houses.
That’s it. Okay.
Keep your tax hiking hands off our freaking houses.
There we go.
That one’s going to go around, baby. Wait a minute. What’s the time code on that? I got it. 25 44. My man.
We have some approval here from behind this.
You mean the young Kennedy acolyte? Hey, Giselle, get in here. That’s it. Giselle, get in here.
Come back. Come back, young lady.
Yeah. What a patriarch. Come back here.
Okay. What Giselle, the
Hat’s pretty comfortable.
What attracts you to Kennedy?
Oh, absolutely nothing. He was just over there on my shelf.
I met with him last week and I brought the hat back.
Hey Kennedy, I want to tell you, I think you got a future in comedy.
Just, yeah, she said absolutely nothing.
That means she has a future in politics, right?
Right. Yeah, she does. She does.
Okay, Grover, anything else you want to talk about? Anything eating you?
Well, when you talk about empty buildings, we are just had a new report out that in Washington DC they did a sample of federal government buildings. This is not Detroit. This is the federal government buildings, and they’re at about 20% occupancy. And so they heat the whole building. They are conditioned, the whole building. They do security for the whole building, but they don’t work in the building, but they don’t work in the building. I get prompts from,
Hey, get out of the
Chair and get, man, I think you need to have her with you on every
Interview. But go ahead.
She, she’s your, she’s your co-host.
Yes, you’d be great.
Got the show. Norquist and Norquist
Sounds like an injury
Law firm, right? So 20%, they could put all of the government into one fifth as many buildings and sell the buildings for crying out loud. People are not coming into work now. The IRS doesn’t come into work. This does not keep me up at night. But there are a handful of things. The government, I hope this is not the Pentagon, down to one fifth too. I’m not quite sure how they count that one.
Wow. But that’s amazing. So I mean, really in the end, this isn’t the time for downtown development on steroids with public money and sketchy tax reform. I know what I smell here. Well,
Let’s call it for what it is. This is a political move because, hey, I’m homeowners, you’re going to save money and then whatever I’m running for next time, remember that? So remember who put some money back in your pocket
Because as Grover said, there’s no open hearings, there’s nothing in writing, so people just don’t dig deep. It’s how their wallet gets hurt today or moving forward. So it is a political move.
That’s the same thing that happened with the insurance, remember? Yeah. It was like, oh, we’re going to say you could save up to 30% on your auto insurance, but nobody talked about what was being lost in exchange for that potential. 30% savings. And that’s how they push the whole narrative. So everybody around here is so desperate to save money that they hear. Sure. An inkling of savings and they bite the bait without questioning what’s actually on the hook.
You got to give Doug and his credit, he’s one hell of a used car salesman.
He is. Well, again, he’s making a big play for governor and nobody wants to cross him. No chamber of commerce, anything. We’re going to do it. But they put out a chart of here’s the winner, here’s the loser. It’s going to be revenue neutral. Right. It’s all going to work out. It’s going to spark development, but we’re going to draw as many tax dollars as we did under the old scheme. And then when I ran the numbers, no, we’re tens of millions of dollars in the red. Where are the fucking numbers? Just the numbers. And I find it outrageous, Grover, that this guy announces it June 2nd and June 3rd, the local newspapers talking about how great this thing is. And there’s no study. Did he freeze?
I think he’s frozen at the most inopportune spot too.
No, that’s okay. He’s frozen. He was great. He was great. Giselle was great. And what did he say? Keep your tax hiking hands off my freaking house. House. Yeah. Boom.
Pretty simple. Okay. And that’s why I think it’s interesting, this whole idea of the money’s going to be made up through the rest of the state. So be careful what you wish for, because if that happens and you’re running for governor, people aren’t going to forget that.
If Detroit is not paying 50 million, 40 million, a hundred million, right. In property taxes, that means it’s less money for schools. Right? There’s a state minimum about 9,500 bucks that each child gets. Right? That Exactly. And if the local taxing jurisdiction can’t make that the state makes up the rest, who is the state that will be you. Yeah. And how do they make it up on you? Guess what? Property tax probably. It’s too fucked up to do. No, keep your hands off of fucking houses, period.
But Charlie, don’t forget too, when you talked about the day after this was announced that media outlets were talking about it, but they also said, yeah, we don’t know how this is going to work, but the mayor is such a great cheerleader, we ought to give it a chance. That’s not at any degree of investigative reporting or responsible journalism in any capacity. But that’s what we were told.
Grover, your thoughts on that? He’s back. Could stay with this guy on
There. Yeah. No, no. They’ve got the other team needs to write it down before they ask us or tell us what to think about it. And we really need it up online. So people with or without part-time PhDs can look.
He’s pretty funny.
He’s funny. And here’s the thing. I mean, this is so big. Yeah. Like the Headley amendment, right? The prop A of Proposition 13 in California. These things took years to negotiate. Yeah. We want all of this done. We want all of this done. Well, the mayor wants all of this done by November quicker than Gilbert ever Finish the desk skyscraper. Get the fuck on now. Grover, can you hang with us? Can you stay for the rest? Sure. Okay. Because we want to, this is the 10 year anniversary of Detroit’s bankruptcy, and we want to get into that, and we’d like to have you with us, but, so thanks for hanging this Detroit bankruptcy. Keep Giselle close, huh?
Say keep Giselle close. Yeah. Yeah.
Keep Giselle close. And I still want to know, okay, she doesn’t really support Kennedy, but what’s it doing on the shelf?
You just got it.
Maybe it’s brokers. I met with Kennedy last week.
And are you supporting Kennedy?
I got a hat guy. He was talking about civil liberties. He was very impressive in that zone. It was. He is. I’m glad he’s running. It’s very interesting. Gentleman.
How is he on taxes and tax reform? Does he understand tax code?
Well, he, I asked him, I said, would he be willing to sign the tax taxpayer protection pledge to oppose any net tax increase? And he said, yes, absolutely. He might want to move them around, but he didn’t think there’s any reason to raise them, which is pretty good. And I intend to highlight his commitment on that. I think that’s, but it’s not something Biden was willing to do. Remember he promised he’d only tax the rich and then he turned around and started go for the rest of us in terms of energy costs.
Grover, that pledge is, can I
Ask you a question?
Oh, I’m sorry. I was just going to say, that pledge, and you’ve been doing it forever, is really genius. And I’m wondering how many politicians has that really bit in the ass, because sometimes they just have to sign a bill that make taxes go up.
Well, they never have to, although they like to phrase it that way. George Herbert Walker Bush decided to break his pledge, and he lost the next election. And then that’s when 95% of all Republicans signed the pledge because they said, let me get this right. Bush took the pledge and won the Republican primary against doll, who wouldn’t. Then Bush was 14 points behind Dukakis. Ma took, you know, said, I’m never going to raise taxes, read my lips. And he beat Dukakis. And then he turned around to raise taxes, and he lost the next election to a nobody from someplace called Kansas, a Arkansas. And that told you, people want to be told that you won’t raise taxes, but they expect you to keep your word and they’ll cost you if you, I’m,
I’m not there, man, because I paid more taxes than the state of Michigan, than General Motors. And we handed them billions. I want General Motors paying the taxes they used to pay. Right? Right. Now China’s my enemy. But who created China? All the swells in Washington. Yeah. Now all this, come on. I don’t know about that. Let, let me just do this. Let me get to some
Business. But it’s, it’s no net tax increase. The pledge is no net tax increase. So you can move taxes around in the incidence of taxes. Just don’t raise the total burden on the whole country.
Just for inflation, I’m assuming.
No. Well, yes. Don’t change the law. Don’t change the law to the income tax is adjusted for inflation.
So, well, we’re going to get, we’re going to get li listen, now, I’m, I’m going to school you, but lemme get to some business here. I’m going to tell Grover Norquist how it goes. You know what I’m saying? Listen, man, if you’re staggering the darkness of the digital dome, your profits are jaundiced. You’re gross anemic. There’s light X extra service group specialize in voiceover internet. By the way, maybe Giselle can work for them because Rover couldn’t even figure out how to get in on the Zoom call. Sorry. We’re late. Security cameras off-campus access control, wifis and cameras for your home business design and installation. Drive through systems, railroad cameras, total wireless cameras systems for your home and business. Call Matt Ovitz at (734) 245-4100. Mention NBN and receive 15% off and ADR experience overseeing more than a quarter billion dollars in private and public construction projects. Win the government. Grover is in your face and it’s red tape, and they’re trying to bleed your bottom line. You call adr, they reduce your costs, increase your bottom line, save clients millions. Honest, ethical, smart. Call Barry Ellentuck at (248) 318-9424 for a consultation. Get the job done right on time on budget ADR 2 4 8 3 1 8 9 4 2 4. Don’t let me get through these motherfuckers. I just wanted to know you thinking helped me get these electric boxes back
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I told you not to move in there, man. Oh, and by the way, if the property taxes go sideways, they promise the cup, but they actually go up. It goes on renters too, because the landlord going to dump it on you. Yes. Grover or no?
Yes. Renters get to tax pay those taxes eventually. Yes.
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And that’s the American spirit. No, no. This week, it’s been 10 years since the historic bankruptcy of Detroit. Right now I’m le reading a lot of shit. Did it work? Did it work? I’m reading a lot of stuff. They’re talking that it worked. But the people that write about it are being pitched by City Hall. In my belief. They don’t live in the city. Right? No. And don’t, they’re talking about services that they don’t understand. So we had 18 billion in debt by the time we got out of bankruptcy. We still had 11 billion in debt. Seven was shaved and most of that was healthcare and pensions for people that were promised it. I, it’s too expensive now. I believe in America to be given pensions. But let’s look into it. And Grover, you can just jump in anytime you want. Karen, you and I were talking this morning, so let’s pretend like we were talking this morning.
Right? Okay. Let’s talk about services. What bankruptcy was about? Public safety. Let’s start with police number one. We got less of them. We got less police. And it’s obvious there were 300. Let me start by saying this. These numbers, I’m going to give budget numbers, right? They’re based on the fiscal year. 2012, 2013. Right? Okay. This is now 2023. Right? Okay. That’s when Karen was in Detroit trying to soft land this airplane on fire called Detroit. Karen. That year there were draconian budget cuts. Were there. Not like 20, 25% across the board or something like that.
Yeah. There were, in addition to people taking appointees, taking salary cuts, police were cuts. That’s what exactly what they were referred to as draconian cuts Cusp.
Okay. So she went out because of the storms, by the way, it rained a little bit in Detroit Grover. And 150,000 people are without power. Unbelievable. Are they both out? No, he’s there. Grover’s there. Okay, that was five minutes. I think I’m back. Okay, good. She’s Grover. You there? Check in, man.
Yes. Okay. All set here. All
Right. So in 2013, in, believe me, I know because I was up their ass with the police, there was no faking justifiable homicides as opposed to criminal homicides. In 2013, there were 332 murders in Detroit. In 2022, including the justifiable, there were 346 went up. So it was 4% more. And the bankruptcy was supposed to deliver money for public service. More officers. Now the budget was 340 million back in 2013. In 2000. Now this year’s budget, 2020 3 24, the police are at 390 million. So that’s an increase of 50 million, right? Yep. But put inflation into place, right? There’s no increase. Do you want to know how much? 340 million in 2013 money is worth today. Yeah. 425 million. Wow. We cut the police by 15%. The response times. Oh, the response times are great. Oh yeah. Well, I, freedom of information acted all the 9 1 1 calls for 2018. And I wrote this in 2019, just before the pandemic.
1 million calls. Okay. The average response time was 14 minutes. But I noticed about 70,000 of the 9 1 1 calls were actually traffic stops. So they weren’t 9 1 1 calls at all. So you want to note the response time for the traffic stop was, I can guess the average. Go ahead. Guess zero, zero. Cause you’re already there. So Grover, I’m, I’m not a certified public accountant, but you add in 70,000 zeros, right? To a million calls, and all of a sudden you’re at 14. But when you look at code one calls, like shots fired right now. Right? Somebody dying right now. It was 24 minutes. And then when you got to priority two calls, like shots fired a minute ago, right? Right. Somebody’s beating their wife or whatever it was. 46 minutes. Oh my. So it’s, it’s like we’re talking about this tax. We’re playing with numbers. We don’t, we’re not more safe. We’re less safe. Yes. That’s obvious. There is no crime data online where you live, Grover,
So if you go Washington, DC crime statistics, they’ll actually be crime stats from the DC police department, right?
Yeah. They put it out fairly regularly. It’s not very good these days, but yeah.
Huh? New York, Philly, Chicago, la, but not Detroit. Well, that was part of the 15% cut the person that puts the stats up. So
No, that’s part of controlling the narrative. But if you don’t put the information out, then no. That’s what that’s about.
So here’s what we do know. There was a survey of Detroiters in 2020. 25% of them said yes, last year I was a victim of break-in car stealing carjacking, robbery, right? Homicide.
Wait, one in four,
One in four for a year, not for your lifetime. Holy shit. Right? You would expect as an American citizen, one in four chance in my lifetime to be the victim of a serious crime in a year.
Karen, fire. Let’s go to fire. We’re 200 firefighters down budgeted positions and 100 EMS technicians, right? Right. Ambulance is so bad. Remember Detroit’s awesome. Look, look at all the services. It’s so bad that we’ve had to rent 18 ambulances from Macomb County to cover this because couple weekends ago, and a couple of hours went by, no units available, none. And part of the driving force for bankruptcy, I did all those stories. We don’t have any ambulances. They say the response time’s down for the ambulance, right? You want to know why it’s down? Because we now have firetruck show up for an ambulance call. That’s that ain’t a fucking ambulances. No. It’s a lie. It’s a, but
You remember all those stories you did, Charlie, in terms of the fire department, their lack of equipment, not just lack of response time, but just what they were working with and what they did not have to work with in responding to calls.
And here we are again, because here’s the number Magic, Duggan magic bankruptcy guy. The budget for the fire department went adjusted for inflation from that year that Karen had to cut 250 million out of a 1 billion budget. That’s draconian today. Sweet, sweet Detroit. The budget for the fire department is down 30% when you adjust for inflation. Now you know why we don’t got no ambulances. All right. Buses another big, big, big city service service down 33% since Covid, the bus runs just, they’re not on time. They’re late. People are complaining. The reporters shame on you. Yeah, you’re not even asking them. You’re pretending. Okay.
So they were made to work in,
So three of the most important things for good economy, right?
The three most important services a city could give.
Yeah. You have to have people be mobile, move around and safely.
Yes. Yeah. Because how they going to make their money? A lot of people
Do not drive. They depend on local transportation.
But also too, when you’re talking about attracting younger people to a city, which is what we keep talking about, attraction and retention of a younger demographic. They don’t want to drive. They want mass. Trans want at least a reliable bus system. And neither of those things exist here.
Nah, that’s bullshit. Now because in la I’m driving, man, I’m, I’m hip, I’m young, I’m in la. I ain’t taking the fucking bus. I, I’m take it when my car breaks down.
But even LA bus system runs it really good, really good, really good. And that shit is a Dr. Everywhere is a 20, 30 minute drive at minimum. So
Just at the corner store to traffic, right?
Okay. But in Detroit, since bankruptcy, we’ve cut the budget by 10%, cut it by 10%. It doesn’t work. And here’s for you suburban homeowner, Grover, you can get in on this one. We voted to tax ourselves to create the suburban smart system, right? The bus system. I taxed my home. I do take the bus, right? But I tax my home, man. You got to get people moving around, right? Homeowners, not everybody just homeowners. But the biggest hub for the smart system, the biggest users is Detroit. And Detroit has opted out of paying for it. Jesus. So you see the push to cover this mayor’s tracks. Yeah. Would you miss spending all the money? You didn’t fix a goddamn thing. What do you think about that? Grover?
Not a particularly useful project. They’re flailing. They need to focus on the things the government should do. You listed some of them and they like to have fun with other stuff.
Thank you for that,
Sir. Sister cities with sister cities with European countries, stuff like that. Yeah. Going on glossy stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Go on. Tours of Europe, like pretending you were selling them stuff from Detroit.
Let’s go to demolition. A quarter billion dollars in federal money came in here. A quarter billion dollars of city money. And then another quarter billion dollars is called Proposition N. In the meantime, so far we’ve had 12.5 million in legal fees and fines. There’s another $4 million out there for cleanup for the poison holes. We haven’t tested all the holes. We’ve had two grand juries that that’s no success to me. Every development deal down here is getting public money, balanced budget. Detroit’s head balanced budgets. But it really hasn’t because part of the bankruptcy deal, Karen, as you know, was Detroit for 10 years didn’t have to pay its pension obligations. Right? That’s 130 million a year. Who paid those?
It was us. What?
It was the state. That will be all of us. Every taxpayer. So Detroit got some breathing room. To me. One point 130 million times 10 is 1.3 billion, but we only got 400 million in the pension fund. That bitch is going to run out. If it wasn’t for the Biden bucks, we will be broke. Right? And Detroit is on track to go broke to go into the red in 20, 27, 3 years. Revenue when adjuster for inflation tax collections is down 10% since 2015. Okay? And Doug, and now wanting to run for governor is talking about giving a 13th pension check bonus. Wow. So whoever wants to be mayor in two years, good luck to you because this baby’s about ready to implode. But nobody will write this. Wait, so mayor in two years, and if he runs and then goes to be the governor in three years, we go into the red, here comes the service. So someone else’s brought the services we don’t have exactly Right. Cut some moral out and that,
And that’s what’s going to happen. That’s exactly what’s going to happen. And that’s what people who are thinking about running are that they’re overlooking that all of this is going to implode. Right. And in their administration, not now, but it’s it will, man. He’s
Good. Okay, but wait, wait, there’s good news. Detroit’s bond rating just went up. Oh, Detroit’s bond rating went up. All right, awesome. Right? This is good stewardship. In 10 years, the bond rating went up. We can borrow at less, right? The higher your, it’s a credit score for the city, right? Right. Okay. Except after 10 years, it’s still junk bond. It’s still like below investment grade. PennySaver. I mean, dollar Thor, I mean, please. Okay. Now, services. Services. We’re at the bottom of every list here. Here. Here’s one wallet hub. They have economists and stuff, right? You can check C, D, C. Let me give you a few. The quality of services call according to wallet hub out of one. Yes. Out of 149 cities, right? Where does Detroit rank in 2023 for quality of services? Grover, what do you think? Yeah, out of 149 cities.
120. Oh no, man. Come on. Come on, man. I mean, come on. We came out of bankruptcy. It’s awesome. The mayor’s awesome. I mean, with the negative outlook here. I know it’s a triple B minus. Come on. You’re so negative, Grover. It’s, it’s not one 20 out of 1 49. Detroit’s services are rated at, go ahead. Another guess. Go ahead. You want me to guess again? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s price is right. Four. Oh, come on. I mean, now you be mean. Detroit’s f Ford. Best out of a 149. You didn’t like one 20? I didn’t like one 20. It was way off. What? On
No, come on, man. 149, bro. 1 49. Dead last. Dead last. Okay. Family’s in poverty out of 149. Where you think we are?
No, man. 1 49, bro.
Ok. Better than I thought. Better than I thought.
That’s, wait, this man is a genius. Yes. Okay. How about Grover? About household income? Where does Detroit rank out of 149 cities in terms of household income?
Yes, exactly. Thank you. Gary, Indiana, you sure you didn’t feed him these answers before the show? No, he’s a smart guy. Okay. Unemployment? Yeah, we’re really promoting that in Detroit. Wow. We’re so awesome. Unemployment’s at an all time low. Where do you think Detroit ranks out of? 149 cities?
Nope. 148. Thank you. Flint. Oh geez. Okay. What about violent crime
No. In terms of the safest city.
Oh, oh, safest. Safest. Yes. Oh, 1 49.
Yes. Hey, you’re good at this. Okay. Infant mortality since bankruptcy, did it go up? Did it go down or is it the same in Detroit?
It did, even after the mayor handed his girlfriend a bunch of money, she was all into infant mortality. The mayor kept saying, it’s really coming down. It didn’t. It went up. And then he divorced his wife and married her. Anyway. Okay. Now, Karen, the newspaper was talking about graduation rates, right?
They were. So you, that is one of the things that had changed during, or in the 10 years post bankruptcy.
I don’t know if bankruptcy has to do with graduation rates, but did they go up, did down, or are they the same?
Well, Charlie, looking at the numbers that we checked, it went down.
Went down by one 10 to 1%. Right? High school school graduation. Right. Now, Grover, hearing that it’s, it held steady in terms of fourth grade reading proficiency of all the big cities in America, where does Detroit rank in terms of fourth grade reading proficiency?
Fourth grade. Yeah. 1 49. Yes.
So when you look at it this way, what happened to the money? Yeah. Why are we getting these rosy stories? When you really look at how people are living in the services they’re getting, it doesn’t ma match up.
Not at all.
Karen decided isn’t,
This isn’t, isn’t the same group that said we had the best public space, that we had the best riverfront. So I don’t want people that are saying, oh, well, that information is wrong. They’re not telling the truth. When the same entity gave us the other accolades and said, oh, okay, this is accurate and this is correct. So what happened to it, Charlie? That’s a good question. But it’s not obviously being reinvested into the residents or into the service, the services that impact the residents or that the residents need and deserve.
It’s not, so the question is, how do we get all these Roy’s stories? How is it how he’s getting the good press?
It’s called controlling the narrative. This mayor has the largest communication staff of any mayor that I can ever recall. Many of his staff members are former media people. So they not only,
How does he media people? Does he have,
I counted at least a dozen? And there could be some that
No, no. His Department of Propaganda, his communications
Group. Oh, at least 30, because there’s at least 30 Grover. That’s what I’ve been to
Count. We have a city with a population of 620,000. And the mayor’s propaganda department has at least 30 employees. What do you think of that?
Well, if you tell the press, if they want access to the mayor or to get their answer questions answered, they have to write nice stories. They do.
Now, Karen and I, were, we’re looking at the list and we count at least a dozen, minimum, a dozen former reporters name people, like pretty high up people, columnists, TV personalities, a dozen. So what does that do? Right? You hired the media, then the media goes to their old bosses, and we get this nonsense, right? And then this dude, I don’t care. You all do what you want to do. This is the no bullshit news hour. You can elect the cat governor. But these are the true numbers, right? This is how it’s working. And it’s red. You live in the city, city we were talking about. Yeah. Do you see, I saw garbage all up and down the street.
I saw streets flooding.
Yeah. The whole time from east to west is really the same story. You might see a little difference here or there, but the reality is none of this shit has gotten better in 10 years of bankruptcy.
I don’t think so either. Karen, you were trying to get salaries and names. Could you get those?
No, I couldn’t. I’ve been trying to figure out, because once upon a time, that was a normal thing, and there was supposed to be public posting of this. This is a very tech oriented administration. So everything’s online. Everything is available in an app. And there has not been an updated list since 2019. So asking for it, nobody has it wants to give it to you. And it’s supposed to be public information.
That’s exactly what I was about to ask. So I guess the way we get around that is just don’t make it available to the public.
Don’t make it available to the public.
Pretty much. That’s it. And the media would never let an earlier administration get away with this. Never. No. Would not happen.
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Super, super cool to, yeah. Well, where’s your kid, man?
You smoke weed. She’s taking a shower right now.
Do you smoke weed, Grover?
Have you ever smoked weed, do you?
Nope. Not had the opportunity.
Come on to Detroit, bro. We’ll hook you up. There’ll be plenty opportunities with red. All right. Anyways, here is Detroit this week. Let’s roll it.
I’ve done what the city’s asking me to do when I’ve been quiet.
The big story from Detroit this week was a hard Scrabble family got fined $11,000 by the city for having a bunch of crap in their yard. Then the city came and took the crap out of their yard and them, the bill, they took everything except the garbage. But the city came in here and said, what? It’s a health risk. So they came right away. They said
It was a harborage of garbage, which it wasn’t. This is garbage
Property. When the city came in here at the taxpayers expense and cleaned it all out, they leave that because
They just wanted our
Stuff. So there’s 11, you got the landlord got fined $11,000, and then the city came in here and hauled everything away. Except that
Hey, Mary, you forgot this. So it’s a husband and a wife, and three brothers and two sisters, and then a cat and city came and find them and took the stuff, but forgot the garbage. But it begs the question, what about the other stuff? The city’s responsible for the politicians, the rich people. What about that stuff? Come along? I’ll show you.
Remember the mayor’s demolition contractors threw poison, dirt in the holes and they were supposed to take it out. They haven’t. And the neighbors don’t know anything about it. And just when I’m talking to ’em, one of the contractors lawyers called me. Good man. Just real quick. So what’s happening with these holes? Still trying to work out solutions. Yeah, but there’s probably thousands of these. Yeah. I mean, if anybody was really going to look, yeah, I know. Well, we all do. So this was supposed to be cleaned up last year. This is supposed to be poisoned. And they said they got to block it off so the residents don’t get sick. Now the city put out something, said children keep away. Were you told about that?
No. And it’s ridiculous at this moment. It’s no hazard signs out here or anything like that. Just because this is a Detroit community, it gives you the right to dump something bad out here. What about the people and stuff? What about the children? I don’t think you guys are doing this in the suburban community. Why is that? Because it’s just lots out here.
Because we won’t put up with that shit. The suburban.
I’ve heard stories of where they do have clean dirt, which Chrysler dug out when they redid the Chrysler plant, which is over on Shoemaker in St. Jean. They didn’t want to use that dirt because they did. It was free.
I was there. Let me take you back to a little story I did. I’m just get taking this to get a test. Can’t take that. I got out of the car and I started shoveling some into a cup and then the security came and told me to put the dirt down.
I feel like they’re not going to do anything about it because the people on Benetta are still fighting about the paint shop with the fumes. When the mayor came out and said it was going to be a wall put up and everything, but they’ve been talking about that for
Years. The Chrysler factory.
The Chrysler factory, the people that are right behind the paint shop, they’re still talking about. So they’re not doing anything about that. They’re not going to do anything about
This. So do you feel it’s a 10 year anniversary of the bankruptcy? Do? Do you feel it’s the rich man eats cake and the poor man eats shit? Of course. You remember this one. This was the house of slum. Speculator Garland Gilcrest. He’s the lieutenant governor. They never find him for blight. Somehow the lieutenant governor was able to sell it to some hipster from Miami. He never fixed it either. Look at that. Nobody find him, but they know people. So here’s the thing. In Detroit, if you’re a regular guy and you got a crappy house, you’re getting violated and you’re paying. Here’s one across from the school. Here’s another one right across from the school. Clean it up. Homeowner. Look at that. She had to walk in the street because the sidewalk’s all blocked. It’s across from the school. Could be wild animals in there. Here’s another one across from the school, but this one doesn’t have a notice because it belongs to the city. I asked them to tear it down. I asked them if I could buy it and tear it down. They won’t get back to me. They said they bolted it with super industrial bolts and that they’re keeping on our surveillance.
There’s no windows wiring’s gone. There’s mold. It’s got buckets of shit in urine. It’s got plenty of used needles and it’s got a beautiful view of the elementary school. This is ridiculous. All you down in city hall said we secured it. Your bulls bullshit. This is what kids get. This is what regular people get. So what have we learned today? If you’re a rich guy, a politician, a hooked up contributor, a hooked up contractor, don’t worry about it. Leave your shit for the people. But if you’re the people, government’s coming for you, you are fucked. And that’s Detroit Post bankruptcy Mayor. Tear down the fucking house.
Wow. Good piece.
Has anything happened with the house? I got a call last night from Kenny Oxygen. Kenny lives across the street. They came and they cut all them trees down, bro. And that’s a start. It’s start. Yeah, it’s, it’s Kenny. He was giddy. We did it. We did it. It looks like a neighborhood. I go, no, dude. It’s still there. But I’m glad you can see some improvement. Anybody coming by? Yeah. I mean, it’s not enough. Like Karen said, it’s a start. Yeah, but yeah, but you know what? Tear the whole house up. This is a couple years in the Macon here. I got administrators over at that school saying the same thing like Ray Grover, don’t be fooled. We deserve way better than that. Yeah.
Yep. Yeah. Unfortunately that’s not what we get from the government these days. And you think they’d be a little more apologetic
And I just expect and responsive and I’m happy to pay taxes. You, I want to get this from Grover. Norquist. Taxes are necessary for the common good. Yeah. Roads, sewage, police, fire. But they never seem to go to that.
Correct. They do those last so that when you’re unhappy that the police aren’t there, that the fire isn’t there, that the schools are bad, then they say, we’re going to raise taxes. It we’re going to do those things if we raise taxes. But they do all the stuff they want to do first and then they leave undone the things that know that you most want. Then they trick you into raising taxes for that. And they still don’t do it. That’s why remember, they always promise roads. You just give them more taxes. They give you roads. And then every year they come back and say, you notice there aren’t any roads you really need raise taxes.
Yep. I mean know. So it’s a constant carrot. Nobody knows that. Nobody knows that better than the Detroiter. Yeah. Nobody knows that Better than the Michigan. And we’re all out there sitting in the darkness again because it rained a little bit. Yeah. Yep. Keep raising the rates and the lights keep going out. But you know what? There’s some positivity here because the Barbie movie is out tonight and never wanted to let an opportunity get lost. Governor, governor, Gretchen Whitmer did a little TikTok video of Barbie as the governor of Michigan. And so this is what the governor put out with a little bit of editing by us at the end of it. Before we roll it, I want to say thanks to Grover Norquist for hanging out. Actually kind of a cool dude. Yes. Right. I didn’t like his billboards and I didn’t like his billboards down there in Chattanooga, which was Detroit brought to you by the uaw and it was the Packard plant.
I know. We don’t have to agree on that. He’s laughing. You motherfucker. You motherfucker. What’s wrong with a guy making a sharing into profit? But we agree on stuff and you know what they’re going to do to me. Lauff say Grover. Norquist. Acolyte the united, no, shut up man. No, I said it to Grover. But remember Grover on the right and Tom Murphy, the mayor of Pittsburgh on the left. Agree. This is just bad math. Yeah, yeah. And we can all agree on that. And that you in America when we all do this and we fucking love you. You know, we’re trying to look out. I’m not trying to get anything from you. I just don’t want you to worry like I worry. No. Without any further ado. Goodnight. And here is that Grover. Goodnight brother. Karen. Goodnight. Says And Elle. Yeah. Goodnight. And Elle, she’s in the shower. Thank you. Don’t be weird. She’s in the shower. We’re going to go see the Barbie movie. Yeah. Grover’s going to be going to the Barbie movie. And speaking of which, here’s the governor’s TikTok Plus our little edit.
Hi Barbie. Hi Barbie. Hi Barbie. Hi Barbie. Hi Barbie.
Hi Barbie. Hi Barbie. Hi Barbie. Hi Barbie. Hi Barbie. Hi
Barbie. Hi Barbie.