No BS Newshour Episode #384
Attention: The Root of Modern Evil
Attention.
The Lust for it is killing us.
The Cure?
Turn off your machines.
Tune into your children.
And elect better people.
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Transcript:
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Okay, last week we had polished up the show and an
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hour later,
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Charlie Kirk took a bullet to the neck.
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I’m not one to consume a bunch.
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Yeah, I’m so I’m busy doing news,
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not giving political philosophy,
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right? But somebody help me out here.
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Ken Beck joining us.
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Bernie Oskov is joining us.
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XG Service Group.
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What’s up,
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bro?
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So this is the white guy special edition of the OBS
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News Hour to try to class it up.
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I just don’t see that anymore.
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What? Help me here.
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I know who Charlie Kirk is.
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You know what I mean?
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I know what he’s about.
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He goes to college campuses and debates.
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So what did he say?
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Where you would cheer for that?
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Okay, he’s a what?
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A misogynist.
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A racist. What?
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Help me, Mark.
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What did he say?
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Did he do stuff that I’m not aware of?
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No, I mean,
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mostly words,
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right? And he had a very popular podcast that clipped
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very well and sent around.
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And this is the problem with,
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you know,
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fucking psychotic people.
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It could be 1 phrase that bothers me.
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It appears that because of the whole anti-trans,
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there’s one woman,
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one man.
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And this bothered a guy who was kind of radicalized
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in discord and in these deep,
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weird threads online.
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Yeah. And it’s sad.
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It’s sad more than anything.
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And it’s frustrating and angry and.
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And I’m sick of opening up Twitter and seeing,
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someone get shot in the neck or a blonde woman gets
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stabbed. It’s just,
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I don’t know.
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And I got a pretty strong stomach for stuff and I’m
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just kind of,
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I’m fed up with it.
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You know,
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okay, look,
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you have like the guy in Charlotte,
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he’s a career criminal,
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he’s a sociopath,
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he’s a salute,
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should have been locked up.
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Charlie Kirk,
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okay, so the guy that shot him,
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He’s in its dungeons of the web,
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right? And okay,
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so he’s experimenting with sax in the,
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okay, so he loses the lightning and takes the guy’s
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life. These things happen.
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But I don’t understand people of stature.
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taking a position like you deserved it or now we’re
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backing up.
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Now we’re backing up.
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Everybody’s saying the political discourse has gotten
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too hot. I think Charlie Kirk’s greatest quote unquote
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crime, because it wasn’t a crime,
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to the left was that he made them feel very uncomfortable.
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He had a way of presenting arguments and debating
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with people that shifted their position
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Almost immediately,
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you watch some of these clips and he reframes the
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argument,
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especially things like abortion and feminism.
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And the people around the people that they’re debating,
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well, you can actually see it on their faces.
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They’re like,
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I never really thought about it that way.
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And when these clips go online and go viral like that,
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a lot of people have that same feeling.
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And to the left,
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you know,
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there’s a,
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it’s cognitive dissonance.
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They are very uncomfortable knowing that could,
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Could I be wrong here?
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And that’s very,
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that sometimes that causes people to lose it.
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And I think that’s what a lot of people felt when
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he was killed.
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They celebrated immediately because it was,
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oh, I’m not wrong.
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This guy’s wrong.
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This guy’s dead now.
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I don’t have to listen to him anymore telling me how
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wrong I am.
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Doesn’t.
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just in this,
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doesn’t the media,
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the talking heads,
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the political class bear some responsibility?
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Because I’m a nut.
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I got earphones on here.
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Let me got these earphones on and I’ve got a killing
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game and I’m just in a dark basement playing a killing
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game, right?
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And I
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have questions about my sexuality or whatever it may
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be, I’m having issues.
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And I take these off and I start scrolling through
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this and I hear Hitler,
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a threat to democracy,
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authoritarianism.
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Existential threat.
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Hitler, we have to ratchet it up,
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right? By any means possible.
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Don’t you think if you went back in time knowing what
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you know,
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that it would be righteous?
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to put a bullet into Adolf Hitler?
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Don’t you think you would be a hero to history?
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Don’t you?
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As a young person,
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wouldn’t you do that?
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Didn’t we launch millions of soldiers to go get that
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guy? Right?
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When you want to be Ernie Pyle,
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you know,
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ending that.
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So if this is what a kid who’s lost it is hearing
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from the adults over and over and over again,
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they bear responsibility.
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And I’m telling you,
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It’s not hate,
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and hate’s what got us here.
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So don’t go out and hate.
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But it annoys the shit out of me.
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Gretchen Whitmer will sit in the governor’s chair
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that she abandoned for a month while she’s gallivanting
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on the taxpayer’s dime across the globe,
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no budget,
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no nothing,
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saying there must not be political violence.
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When I remember through COVID,
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you had your little blocks,
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say 86, 45.
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This is crazy.
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It’s nuts.
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And part of the problem,
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too, is somebody will say something and it’s like,
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well, I got to top that.
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I have to top that.
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And it just snowballs and snowballs.
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And it’s like 100%
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intention.
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It was attention,
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just like what Karen and you guys said.
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It’s attention.
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You saw it when,
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wait, what’s wrong with you?
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What? Trying to make the editor’s life tough.
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Yeah, now what are we going to do?
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We’re calling her later in the show.
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With the magic of TV,
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we’ll be talking to Karen later,
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but Ken knows what she’s saying now.
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The night Charlie Kirk was killed,
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you had people like Garlin Gilchrist putting out on
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social media,
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I was the victim of a bomb threat.
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Please look at,
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here’s my whole statement.
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Here’s the details of the bomb threat and all.
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You don’t publicize bomb threats because you get more
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bomb threats.
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That was only to draw attention away from the Kirk
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stuff onto him because he’s running for governor.
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Then you had somebody state Senator Jerry Moss do
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the same thing.
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I too got up.
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Oh my gosh.
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Maybe you can’t read into their thoughts and you can’t
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read into whether or not it’s true.
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Right.
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OK, I don’t know.
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I agree. I agree with the grandstanding part of it.
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There’s no need,
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right? You call the authorities,
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they handle it,
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and they figure it out.
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There’s no need to parade it.
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You don’t draw attention because it brings more threats
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to you. Politically,
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it’s convicted.
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It’s attention.
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It’s attention.
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And now, here’s the reverse.
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of it. Here’s the consequence of the pandering and
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the vile language and the stirring people up is here
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comes the counter wave.
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And do you have Pam Bondi?
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I do, yeah.
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Here’s an interview she’s given.
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It’s a podcast,
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Katie Miller,
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all due credit to Katie Miller.
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This is the United States Attorney General about what
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we’re going to do here.
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There’s free speech and then there’s hate speech.
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And there is no place,
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especially now,
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especially after what happened to Charlie in our society.
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Do you see more law enforcement going after these
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groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs
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on people so we show them that some action is better
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than no action?
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We will absolutely target you,
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go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate
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speech, anything,
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and that’s across the aisle.
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That’s fucking insane.
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That is
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She did clarify that later,
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but I, that’s an excuse.
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She did clarify that we’re going to go after people
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promoting violence.
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But that was a,
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that was just,
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she probably shouldn’t be allowed to do anything.
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Well, she said hate speech,
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right? She did.
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So, you know,
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what is hate speech?
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We don’t even have a definition of that.
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And it’s just speech.
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If there’s an incitement to violence,
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that’s not free speech.
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If there are threats,
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That’s not free speech.
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That’s what she claimed she was talking about,
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but it was a very poor interview.
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I don’t know why they actually let her do interviews,
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because this is like the third or fourth time that
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she’s gone on a podcast or Fox News and said something
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that had to be clarified immediately or walked back
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by. I’m sorry,
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she’s the Attorney General.
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She should be able to do a fucking interview and know
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what the law is.
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She probably shouldn’t be doing histrionic is what
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it is. There you go.
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Yeah. It is just so over the top.
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We expect you when you have these positions that you
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have
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some modicum of wisdom.
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Yeah. Like I do not,
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even with their clarification,
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as you say,
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I don’t know if I believe that that’s what’s in there
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because you see what’s going on with Europe.
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Yeah. It gets muddy,
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definitely.
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Right? I mean,
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you put stuff that offends people on Twitter and Germany
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and they’re knocking on your door.
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Fuck that.
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my God. They don’t solve actual crimes over there because
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it’s much more easier to track down a Facebook post
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than there’s a burglar.
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Yeah, and then you go like,
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you know,
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rape gangs.
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What are you knocking on my door?
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Because I brought up the rape gang.
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Running around London?
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Like, I don’t know,
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dude. I don’t know.
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And then,
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you know,
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the need for attention.
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Like A Michigan judge went around,
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right?
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I should know her name.
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She was the judge that.
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It’s on the screen,
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Jamie Powell.
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Powell Horowitz,
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who, you know.
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There’s her comment.
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Wouldn’t let me back in my house for six months to
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get underpants in my tax papers.
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You know,
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the one that makes my wife explain why she wants the
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5th while Fox 2’s cameras are in there and everybody
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feels free to walk over your God-given rights.
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Something that should have been done in chambers.
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Yes. Or not at all,
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perhaps.
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Would she write,
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talk about dying for your beliefs?
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That’s what she wrote?
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Like, what day was that?
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The day after?
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Yeah, I think it was the day of,
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late in the day.
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What’s that for?
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Oh, wow. So you just couldn’t stay off social media?
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Yeah.
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And you’re supposed to be a leader.
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You’re supposed to be a person of high regard.
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The judge has a right to speak or opinion.
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I have no problem with that.
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But again,
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this is a position of wisdom.
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Judges are involved when we can’t figure out behavior
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with each other,
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right? To make the decision when the system fails.
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And when you’re doing this kind of shit.
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I mean, the judge is supposed to be neutral,
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right?
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You want to appear that way,
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don’t you?
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I know you’re a human,
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but fucking immature.
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This whole shit is immature.
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We have poor leadership.
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I was surprised how many health care workers were
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fired for expressing views like he should have died.
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Like you’re a health care worker.
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You’re doctors.
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There was a nurse,
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I think, at Henry Ford.
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A lot of health care workers.
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These are people who are supposed to be saving your
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lives. They’re supposed to be no matter what.
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And it’s disturbing to think that you can walk in a
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hospital and some of the people that are there to
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help you actually wish for your dad.
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Yeah, they’re the kind of people that are supposed
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to be able to compartmentalize,
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you know,
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their own personal beliefs of what their job is and
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what they’re supposed to be doing.
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That being said,
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and you know,
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it’s…
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It’s a free speech issue.
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You don’t want the attorney general going and handcuffing
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people and putting people away or even putting them
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on trial for their thoughts.
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But I got to tell you,
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there’s going to be consequences to your speech.
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So I don’t really be it this,
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be it stuff with cancel culture back in the day.
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If I’m running a business and someone says something
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stupid, I want them out of there because it’s a reflection
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of you. So I get that.
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Can we knock it off of the doxing all the time?
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Be it this person said this or this person had a bad
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tweet 12 years ago.
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Can we just stop tattling?
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Can we stop being dicks?
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Why is that so hard?
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Is this the way it’s always been and we just didn’t
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know it? Or are these machines changing us?
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Well, and it’s too easy to put a stupid message out
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there now.
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Well, everybody’s like,
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okay,
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Grock, tell me AI,
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tell me. And we all now know,
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a couple of months of this,
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that shit’s not even accurate.
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No, it’s bullshit.
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It’s not nuanced.
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And it kisses your ass.
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It’s feeding you an algorithm.
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It’s giving you CNN.
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It’s giving you Fox,
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but not a nuanced amalgam of them both.
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It’s also telling you how great you are and what a
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great question.
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I mean, it kisses your ass,
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which makes people want to use it more.
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Well, I mean,
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let’s say this happened 20 years ago.
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it happened if it happened fifty-five years ago,
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we had plenty of a lot of assassination.
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I’m just saying 20 years,
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I’m just saying before the social media.
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It happened throughout our history,
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yeah, all the carrying on.
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But you wouldn’t like,
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you know,
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I don’t think you would get the bombardment of people
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celebrating in your face like you do now,
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because
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social media,
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Facebook,
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Twitter, Instagram,
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all these,
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they push it because they know you’ll see it and react
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to it. And it’s easy.
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And if you see it and react to it,
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then that makes them money.
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Let me cut into it.
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And that has affected all the pressure valves that
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we’ve had in society because newspapers now behave
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like that.
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Right? Television news behaves like that.
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Like it’s a friend of mine,
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I’m not going to say.
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But he’ll go on TV and go,
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no, now you got a war.
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This isn’t Walter Cronkite.
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This is, now you got a war.
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You guys push this where we don’t need,
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you’re going to regret it now.
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And he’ll say,
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well, you’re misreading what I meant.
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It’s like a cultural pushback,
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I’m saying.
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But you got to know that some people that believe
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in you aren’t going to hear it that way.
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And I’m not such a guy where I have to
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Plan out my thoughts before I say it,
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because that’s fear of a mob,
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right? But…
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You can be careful about what you say.
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There ain’t any standards to behavior now.
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And I sound old-fashioned,
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but I’m not.
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It’s like,
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I know young men.
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I know them well,
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and I used to be one.
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And I know what they do.
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That’s this fucking psycho on the roof.
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You know what I mean?
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You think he just came up with it?
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No.
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And it got fed,
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and it got fed,
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and it got fed.
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Threat to democracy,
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threat to democracy.
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Hitler. Yeah.
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Existential threat,
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existential threat.
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You know,
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we really have to turn it up.
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We got to fight,
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fight, fight.
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We got the 86,
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45. Everything’s a battle.
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Everything’s a battle.
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Yeah, man.
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It’s ridiculous.
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All right,
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I’m gonna,
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I’m gonna,
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I’m gonna call Karen.
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Live from downtown Detroit,
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it’s the No Bullshit News Hour with my main man,
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Charlie LaDoux.
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And Karen Dumas.
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This is just breaking this.
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Double or bullshit.
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Double or bullshit.
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I’m Grace Karos,
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and I’m third generation of American Coney Island.
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People say Detroit’s a comeback city.
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I say, where you’ve been?
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We’ve been here for over a hundred years.
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My family’s been here on the same corner,
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serving our famous proprietary American Coney Island
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hot dog. So like always,
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we’re keeping things fresh,
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updated, and new.
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We’d love to have you come downtown and visit us,
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but if you can’t,
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you can always go to AmericanConeyIsland.com,
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order a Coney kit,
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get it delivered fresh right to your door.
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Hey, Charlie.
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Hey, good morning,
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Karen. How are you?
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I’m okay, how are you?
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I actually am just a bundle of freaking nerves ’cause
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like last week after we went off air,
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right, it was 9/11,
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so I’m getting all those calls from New York and it’s
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just really winding me up and the smell of,
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the recollection of the smell of bodies and the stench
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of a burning building.
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And then Charlie Kirk takes one in the neck and then
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the judge
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they wouldn’t let me in my house for six months.
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And then made my wife,
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explain herself in public before she could have the
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Fifth Amendment right.
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Then that happened.
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And then the next morning at the Coney,
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Abdul next door had an aneurysm in the doorway.
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Oh, shit.
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Yeah. So all of it.
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All of it.
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I just went in panic attack.
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I thought I was stroking out and it’s a week later
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and I’m just thinking of this Charlie Kirk thing and
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they’re by the grace of God like any public figures
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or people that stand up and speak for themselves you
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or me or What?
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What’s your feeling on all this?
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I just, Charlie,
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I think, and I did group’s show,
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but I did it remotely because I told him I don’t have
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the ability to come out there.
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Well, we talked a little bit about this last night.
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I did it on Zoom.
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But I just think people are so,
528
00:17:53,540 –> 00:17:54,420
they have so much,
529
00:17:55,380 –> 00:17:56,820
so many unresolved
530
00:17:57,300 –> 00:17:58,500
personal issues,
531
00:17:58,660 –> 00:17:59,460
socially,
532
00:17:59,460 –> 00:18:00,260
financially,
533
00:18:00,420 –> 00:18:02,180
the things that they’ve been exposed to,
534
00:18:02,420 –> 00:18:06,020
that we are just slowly unraveling and there’s nobody
535
00:18:06,020 –> 00:18:07,940
there to stop the unravel.
536
00:18:08,260 –> 00:18:11,100
Like I’m watching how this is unfolding on social
537
00:18:11,100 –> 00:18:12,740
media and it’s scary.
538
00:18:13,140 –> 00:18:16,260
because everybody is piling on.
539
00:18:16,500 –> 00:18:18,980
A lot of what’s going on and what’s being said is
540
00:18:18,980 –> 00:18:19,940
performative,
541
00:18:20,180 –> 00:18:22,820
but people don’t want to be left out of the equation,
542
00:18:23,140 –> 00:18:26,500
whether they are included positively or negatively.
543
00:18:26,900 –> 00:18:30,500
And it just speaks to the level of unhealing that
544
00:18:30,500 –> 00:18:34,020
I think that we’ve not had individually,
545
00:18:34,420 –> 00:18:36,340
or as a nation.
546
00:18:36,620 –> 00:18:38,980
I mean, you talked about the impact of 9-11.
547
00:18:39,300 –> 00:18:40,500
you were in it,
548
00:18:40,820 –> 00:18:43,100
but there were people that were impacted in their
549
00:18:43,140 –> 00:18:43,860
own ways.
550
00:18:43,860 –> 00:18:46,260
you think of the things that are going on every day.
551
00:18:46,900 –> 00:18:50,900
the kid that was found hanged on the college campus,
552
00:18:51,140 –> 00:18:54,340
you got, people calling for elected officials to be
553
00:18:54,540 –> 00:18:55,900
their citizenship revolt.
554
00:18:55,900 –> 00:18:57,460
Like, what the fuck is happening?
555
00:18:57,980 –> 00:19:00,020
Like, it’s insane.
556
00:19:00,100 –> 00:19:00,820
So what do you think?
557
00:19:00,820 –> 00:19:01,700
You think it’s like,
558
00:19:01,780 –> 00:19:02,180
here, let me,
559
00:19:02,180 –> 00:19:03,940
let’s do a few steps here.
560
00:19:04,820 –> 00:19:08,020
One, you have the invention and explosion of social
561
00:19:08,020 –> 00:19:08,700
media, right?
562
00:19:09,540 –> 00:19:10,100
Everybody’s,
563
00:19:10,100 –> 00:19:16,500
even that awful Judge Horowitz in Oak Park,
564
00:19:16,500 –> 00:19:16,900
Michigan,
565
00:19:16,980 –> 00:19:18,420
has to get out there and say something.
566
00:19:18,660 –> 00:19:21,220
So there’s the advent and explosion of social media.
567
00:19:21,540 –> 00:19:25,300
Then there’s the weird chambers,
568
00:19:25,300 –> 00:19:26,620
like the subreddits,
569
00:19:26,620 –> 00:19:30,180
the weird chat rooms that people go in and
570
00:19:31,300 –> 00:19:34,340
create evil shit amongst themselves or disillusionment
571
00:19:34,340 –> 00:19:36,500
or, okay,
572
00:19:36,500 –> 00:19:38,820
and then you have the political discourse over the
573
00:19:38,820 –> 00:19:39,780
last decade,
574
00:19:39,780 –> 00:19:43,540
right? Where it just starts ramping up and,
575
00:19:45,140 –> 00:19:45,540
you know,
576
00:19:45,540 –> 00:19:47,460
Hitler, you know,
577
00:19:47,620 –> 00:19:50,020
Hitler, and then,
578
00:19:52,420 –> 00:19:54,220
We now turn to hate speech.
579
00:19:54,220 –> 00:19:55,060
What is that?
580
00:19:55,260 –> 00:19:56,740
Am I gonna get rung up for like,
581
00:19:56,900 –> 00:19:59,620
are we turning into Europe where you’re praying in
582
00:19:59,620 –> 00:20:01,940
front of an abortion clinic and just for thinking
583
00:20:01,940 –> 00:20:03,620
it, you’re thrown in prison?
584
00:20:04,180 –> 00:20:05,220
Right. Is that,
585
00:20:06,100 –> 00:20:07,460
I’m nervous as shit.
586
00:20:07,780 –> 00:20:08,540
Not scared,
587
00:20:08,540 –> 00:20:09,780
just a bundle of nerves.
588
00:20:10,180 –> 00:20:11,300
Shit, and I understand,
589
00:20:11,300 –> 00:20:12,740
Charlie, but take a deep breath.
590
00:20:13,260 –> 00:20:13,580
I mean,
591
00:20:13,860 –> 00:20:14,900
But the thing about it is,
592
00:20:15,020 –> 00:20:19,140
that you have to look whether you support Trump or
593
00:20:19,140 –> 00:20:19,700
not.
594
00:20:19,700 –> 00:20:24,340
He has created a landscape where all of this is okay.
595
00:20:24,740 –> 00:20:26,060
Now, do you think it’s Trump?
596
00:20:26,100 –> 00:20:28,980
Because like I hear people like Hakeem Jeffries,
597
00:20:29,460 –> 00:20:30,740
Gretchen Whitmer with her,
598
00:20:30,740 –> 00:20:30,980
you know,
599
00:20:30,980 –> 00:20:33,020
8645 on her desk.
600
00:20:34,340 –> 00:20:35,740
Tim, Tim Balls.
601
00:20:36,660 –> 00:20:38,020
Everybody played nice.
602
00:20:38,180 –> 00:20:38,900
under Obama.
603
00:20:39,260 –> 00:20:40,660
They played nice.
604
00:20:40,740 –> 00:20:41,540
They weren’t nice,
605
00:20:41,540 –> 00:20:42,740
but they were pretending.
606
00:20:43,260 –> 00:20:45,060
Now nobody has to pretend anymore.
607
00:20:45,620 –> 00:20:46,380
So whichever,
608
00:20:46,380 –> 00:20:47,460
wherever you are,
609
00:20:47,460 –> 00:20:49,020
and everybody thinks that it’s cute,
610
00:20:49,060 –> 00:20:52,180
we elevate people because they’re critics or they’re
611
00:20:52,180 –> 00:20:55,220
critical and people that say the dumbest shit become
612
00:20:55,220 –> 00:20:56,180
the most popular.
613
00:20:56,660 –> 00:20:58,340
And that’s where we are.
614
00:20:58,340 –> 00:21:00,260
You know, money is in the root of all the evil,
615
00:21:00,260 –> 00:21:01,220
attention is,
616
00:21:01,500 –> 00:21:04,900
and people are willing to do it at any cost,
617
00:21:04,900 –> 00:21:07,060
even if it’s somebody else’s expense.
618
00:21:07,540 –> 00:21:08,660
That’s where we are.
619
00:21:08,980 –> 00:21:09,380
It’s like,
620
00:21:09,380 –> 00:21:10,980
let me do it.
621
00:21:10,980 –> 00:21:11,620
Like the guy,
622
00:21:11,700 –> 00:21:12,740
some kid,
623
00:21:12,980 –> 00:21:16,660
some black kid was imitating Charlie Kirk getting
624
00:21:16,660 –> 00:21:16,980
shot.
625
00:21:16,980 –> 00:21:18,060
And like, what?
626
00:21:18,180 –> 00:21:19,060
Yeah, at a vigil,
627
00:21:19,060 –> 00:21:19,260
right?
628
00:21:19,260 –> 00:21:20,100
He walks up there.
629
00:21:20,100 –> 00:21:22,180
Yeah, and he acts like he put it,
630
00:21:22,180 –> 00:21:23,180
like, what is the point?
631
00:21:23,792 –> 00:21:25,032
And what is the purpose?
632
00:21:25,512 –> 00:21:27,752
And there is no point and there is no purpose.
633
00:21:28,672 –> 00:21:32,352
And then people aren’t thinking that the very things
634
00:21:32,352 –> 00:21:36,592
that they either condone or support apply to other
635
00:21:36,592 –> 00:21:38,392
people, but they don’t think that either.
636
00:21:38,392 –> 00:21:39,072
Yeah, I saw that.
637
00:21:39,112 –> 00:21:39,792
I saw that too.
638
00:21:39,792 –> 00:21:40,192
And, you know,
639
00:21:40,192 –> 00:21:42,352
I mean, it’s unfortunate,
640
00:21:42,352 –> 00:21:42,952
of course.
641
00:21:43,192 –> 00:21:46,552
And I was young in college and doing dumb shit.
642
00:21:46,552 –> 00:21:48,872
I had a friend at Michigan.
643
00:21:48,872 –> 00:21:49,832
I forget what it was.
644
00:21:49,872 –> 00:21:51,432
I think it was Palestine.
645
00:21:52,152 –> 00:21:52,792
And
646
00:21:53,912 –> 00:21:54,552
It’s hard to know,
647
00:21:54,552 –> 00:21:54,712
right?
648
00:21:54,712 –> 00:21:55,672
Because it’s Ann Arbor.
649
00:21:55,672 –> 00:21:58,152
So there was either something about divest from South
650
00:21:58,152 –> 00:22:02,192
Africa or it was the Palestinian shack.
651
00:22:02,192 –> 00:22:03,672
Anyway, buddy of mine,
652
00:22:03,912 –> 00:22:07,272
he had a couple of drinks and he tore down the shack,
653
00:22:07,832 –> 00:22:08,152
right?
654
00:22:08,232 –> 00:22:10,912
I think he was expelled for a while and then they let
655
00:22:10,912 –> 00:22:11,352
him back.
656
00:22:11,352 –> 00:22:13,192
But I forgive,
657
00:22:13,272 –> 00:22:13,472
you know,
658
00:22:13,472 –> 00:22:14,472
that kid.
659
00:22:14,472 –> 00:22:15,912
He’s a kid.
660
00:22:15,912 –> 00:22:17,112
It was tasteless.
661
00:22:18,552 –> 00:22:21,392
You know, just maybe going back and just relaxing because
662
00:22:21,432 –> 00:22:22,192
it was just a
663
00:22:22,752 –> 00:22:24,032
It was just a dumb thing he did.
664
00:22:24,032 –> 00:22:25,352
It didn’t hurt anybody,
665
00:22:25,352 –> 00:22:25,672
right?
666
00:22:25,912 –> 00:22:26,432
Charlie hurt.
667
00:22:27,112 –> 00:22:27,512
I don’t.
668
00:22:27,512 –> 00:22:29,192
I’m not aware that it ever hurt anybody.
669
00:22:29,832 –> 00:22:31,072
But see, once upon a time,
670
00:22:31,112 –> 00:22:31,832
Charlie, remember,
671
00:22:31,832 –> 00:22:33,432
you could go toilet paper a house.
672
00:22:33,672 –> 00:22:35,192
You could prank call somebody.
673
00:22:35,472 –> 00:22:36,312
And it was just that.
674
00:22:36,392 –> 00:22:37,272
It was just a joke.
675
00:22:37,272 –> 00:22:39,552
It was harmless and people laughed or they got pissed
676
00:22:39,552 –> 00:22:40,472
and they moved on.
677
00:22:40,952 –> 00:22:45,272
Now, everything that you do is a major offense.
678
00:22:45,272 –> 00:22:45,832
Like you look.
679
00:22:45,912 –> 00:22:46,832
Yeah, right.
680
00:22:46,832 –> 00:22:47,832
And it’s like,
681
00:22:47,832 –> 00:22:50,312
well, what the hell happened to the trick or treat
682
00:22:50,352 –> 00:22:51,312
days where you just,
683
00:22:51,392 –> 00:22:52,672
okay, I played a prank on
684
00:22:52,792 –> 00:22:54,272
on you and that was it.
685
00:22:54,672 –> 00:22:55,432
No, it doesn’t,
686
00:22:55,592 –> 00:22:58,232
nobody is cut any type of grace,
687
00:22:58,672 –> 00:23:01,672
any type of forgiveness or anything.
688
00:23:01,752 –> 00:23:04,712
It’s all hell and high water or nothing at all.
689
00:23:04,792 –> 00:23:06,632
Okay, so what are we going to do?
690
00:23:06,632 –> 00:23:08,792
We just continue,
691
00:23:08,952 –> 00:23:11,632
try to be righteous and leave.
692
00:23:11,992 –> 00:23:12,552
I think everybody,
693
00:23:12,552 –> 00:23:13,512
and I said this,
694
00:23:13,512 –> 00:23:15,912
I think everybody has to want to ask themselves what
695
00:23:15,912 –> 00:23:16,752
kind of country,
696
00:23:16,752 –> 00:23:18,632
what kind of community do you really want?
697
00:23:18,632 –> 00:23:20,072
Not the one you want.
698
00:23:20,792 –> 00:23:21,192
You said what?
699
00:23:21,432 –> 00:23:22,712
Not the one you want.
700
00:23:22,712 –> 00:23:24,032
You’re on the wrong side of it.
701
00:23:24,672 –> 00:23:25,192
Exactly.
702
00:23:25,432 –> 00:23:27,912
Because people have got to ask themselves and they
703
00:23:27,912 –> 00:23:31,672
have to work on being the kind of person that will
704
00:23:31,672 –> 00:23:33,432
be a positive contributor to that.
705
00:23:33,432 –> 00:23:33,832
Okay.
706
00:23:33,832 –> 00:23:35,672
I mean, so whatever that may be.
707
00:23:35,912 –> 00:23:37,472
But my thing is,
708
00:23:37,472 –> 00:23:40,312
that people live in their bubbles and because they
709
00:23:40,312 –> 00:23:41,272
live in their bubbles,
710
00:23:41,512 –> 00:23:44,072
they’re intolerant of people who look differently
711
00:23:44,072 –> 00:23:45,752
than them or think differently than them.
712
00:23:45,752 –> 00:23:46,232
Well said.
713
00:23:46,952 –> 00:23:50,072
People that have been exposed to things are more tolerant
714
00:23:50,192 –> 00:23:51,312
of differences.
715
00:23:51,752 –> 00:23:53,192
People that have been locked into,
716
00:23:53,992 –> 00:23:57,032
their own little backyard think that everything that’s
717
00:23:57,112 –> 00:24:00,552
different from them is bad or a threat to who they
718
00:24:00,552 –> 00:24:02,232
are and what they consider normal.
719
00:24:02,792 –> 00:24:03,752
And it’s just like,
720
00:24:03,752 –> 00:24:04,632
it is just gotten,
721
00:24:05,512 –> 00:24:06,552
it’s crazy,
722
00:24:06,552 –> 00:24:07,032
Charlie.
723
00:24:07,032 –> 00:24:08,392
But I’m gonna tell you this,
724
00:24:08,392 –> 00:24:08,872
and I just had,
725
00:24:08,872 –> 00:24:10,152
I was thinking about this morning,
726
00:24:10,712 –> 00:24:13,352
even normal people are having some of the craziest
727
00:24:13,352 –> 00:24:15,832
and the dumbest conversations that I’ve heard in years.
728
00:24:16,232 –> 00:24:17,992
It is fucking exhausting.
729
00:24:18,792 –> 00:24:18,952
It is.
730
00:24:18,952 –> 00:24:19,192
It is.
731
00:24:20,552 –> 00:24:23,432
That’s why you had to take time away from all of it.
732
00:24:24,072 –> 00:24:25,032
It’s just too much.
733
00:24:25,352 –> 00:24:26,072
But by the way,
734
00:24:26,232 –> 00:24:26,712
by the way,
735
00:24:28,472 –> 00:24:29,592
you were talking about,
736
00:24:29,672 –> 00:24:29,832
you know,
737
00:24:29,832 –> 00:24:31,192
the refrigerator and stuff.
738
00:24:31,192 –> 00:24:33,112
I know you were having problems with yours.
739
00:24:33,112 –> 00:24:34,552
Is your refrigerator running?
740
00:24:35,432 –> 00:24:36,232
Should I go catch it?
741
00:24:36,712 –> 00:24:37,432
Oh, you bitch.
742
00:24:37,432 –> 00:24:38,112
You ruined it.
743
00:24:38,112 –> 00:24:39,432
I took my joke.
744
00:24:41,752 –> 00:24:42,592
It’s good to hear you.
745
00:24:42,592 –> 00:24:43,152
I love you.
746
00:24:43,152 –> 00:24:44,392
I love you too,
747
00:24:44,392 –> 00:24:44,792
Charlie.
748
00:24:44,832 –> 00:24:46,032
And I’m so sorry.
749
00:24:46,032 –> 00:24:47,672
I just, you know,
750
00:24:47,992 –> 00:24:50,152
it’s a lot for everybody.
751
00:24:50,512 –> 00:24:51,352
And I just,
752
00:24:51,752 –> 00:24:53,992
I don’t think that what I’m going through or what
753
00:24:54,312 –> 00:24:55,432
is any worse or any,
754
00:24:56,072 –> 00:24:58,272
it’s everybody is going through a lot.
755
00:24:58,552 –> 00:24:59,752
I mean, they are.
756
00:24:59,752 –> 00:25:01,912
And so my thing is take a deep breath,
757
00:25:01,912 –> 00:25:03,512
remember who the fuck you are.
758
00:25:03,752 –> 00:25:05,432
Just keep being Charlie.
759
00:25:05,752 –> 00:25:07,152
I mean, but shit is crazy.
760
00:25:07,272 –> 00:25:07,752
It is.
761
00:25:07,912 –> 00:25:08,712
Okay, I love you.
762
00:25:08,712 –> 00:25:09,512
Have a good day.
763
00:25:10,752 –> 00:25:11,752
I hear Ken in the back.
764
00:25:11,752 –> 00:25:12,992
Tell Mark and Ken I said hey.
765
00:25:13,112 –> 00:25:14,392
Yeah, and we got Bernie here too.
766
00:25:14,392 –> 00:25:15,672
It’s called the white guy show.
767
00:25:16,712 –> 00:25:17,672
Would you get up,
768
00:25:17,752 –> 00:25:19,352
get back here and class it up?
769
00:25:20,912 –> 00:25:21,072
Please.
770
00:25:21,072 –> 00:25:21,192
Okay.
771
00:25:21,192 –> 00:25:25,952
I got bad Santa over here who’s taking a weird drug
772
00:25:25,952 –> 00:25:27,432
and he’s lost half himself.
773
00:25:28,632 –> 00:25:31,672
He lost 68 pounds and it was the good little boy inside
774
00:25:31,672 –> 00:25:31,872
of him.
775
00:25:31,872 –> 00:25:33,792
Oh my God.
776
00:25:33,792 –> 00:25:35,352
Hey, would that make me a DEI hire Charlie?
777
00:25:38,352 –> 00:25:38,792
What?
778
00:25:39,232 –> 00:25:41,112
I said, would that make me a DEI hire?
779
00:25:41,232 –> 00:25:41,992
No, SA.
780
00:25:43,112 –> 00:25:44,632
That makes me a house comedian.
781
00:25:45,752 –> 00:25:45,832
Bye.
782
00:25:45,832 –> 00:25:46,472
See you later.
783
00:25:46,952 –> 00:25:47,832
Okay, bye.
784
00:25:47,832 –> 00:25:47,912
Bye.
785
00:25:48,952 –> 00:25:49,752
What a good person.
786
00:25:49,912 –> 00:25:50,392
Well, you know,
787
00:25:50,392 –> 00:25:51,032
when it rains,
788
00:25:51,032 –> 00:25:51,912
the power goes out.
789
00:25:51,912 –> 00:25:53,192
And when the power goes out,
790
00:25:53,192 –> 00:25:54,112
the internet goes out.
791
00:25:54,112 –> 00:25:55,192
When the internet goes out,
792
00:25:55,192 –> 00:25:58,392
I call my friend Matt and Bernie at XG Service Group.
793
00:25:58,552 –> 00:26:00,392
Look at Bernie here on his hands and knees,
794
00:26:00,632 –> 00:26:01,912
giving it everything he’s got.
795
00:26:02,472 –> 00:26:03,672
Look at that man crack.
796
00:26:03,992 –> 00:26:04,872
So busy.
797
00:26:05,512 –> 00:26:06,552
He forgot to wear a belt.
798
00:26:06,552 –> 00:26:08,632
There’s Matt right there getting the board together.
799
00:26:08,632 –> 00:26:11,352
That’s 734-245-4100.
800
00:26:11,352 –> 00:26:14,192
If you need Matt and Bernie to come take care of your
801
00:26:14,192 –> 00:26:15,192
voice over internet,
802
00:26:15,352 –> 00:26:16,552
your security cameras,
803
00:26:16,712 –> 00:26:18,312
off-campus access control,
804
00:26:18,632 –> 00:26:20,952
Wi-Fi and cameras for homes and business,
805
00:26:20,952 –> 00:26:22,072
they’ll design it for you.
806
00:26:22,352 –> 00:26:23,152
You got restaurants,
807
00:26:23,152 –> 00:26:24,352
they do drive-thru systems,
808
00:26:24,352 –> 00:26:26,072
railroad cameras for public safety.
809
00:26:26,312 –> 00:26:29,592
Total wireless camera systems for your home and business.
810
00:26:29,832 –> 00:26:30,312
Yeah, that’s right.
811
00:26:30,312 –> 00:26:33,992
Call XG Services at 734-245-4100.
812
00:26:35,672 –> 00:26:36,112
Hey, what’s up,
813
00:26:36,112 –> 00:26:36,472
brother?
814
00:26:36,472 –> 00:26:37,712
Hey, Charlie.
815
00:26:37,872 –> 00:26:39,432
I’m at a structure fire.
816
00:26:39,672 –> 00:26:40,072
Oh.
817
00:26:40,632 –> 00:26:41,472
If you can FaceTime,
818
00:26:41,472 –> 00:26:42,152
can you FaceTime?
819
00:26:42,392 –> 00:26:44,872
I’m just like this just on the phone.
820
00:26:44,872 –> 00:26:45,592
You’re on the air,
821
00:26:45,592 –> 00:26:45,912
man.
822
00:26:45,912 –> 00:26:46,872
You got 5 minutes?
823
00:26:50,472 –> 00:26:51,432
Yes, hurry up.
824
00:26:51,632 –> 00:26:53,192
What’s burning,
825
00:26:53,192 –> 00:26:53,512
by the way?
826
00:26:53,512 –> 00:26:54,152
I hope it’s nothing.
827
00:26:54,152 –> 00:26:56,232
No, it’s a pretty big deal.
828
00:26:56,232 –> 00:26:57,352
It’s an automotive place.
829
00:26:57,672 –> 00:26:58,672
Oh, geez.
830
00:26:58,832 –> 00:26:59,192
It’s on fire.
831
00:26:59,192 –> 00:27:00,152
They got an ambulance coming,
832
00:27:00,152 –> 00:27:01,112
a couple people inside.
833
00:27:01,112 –> 00:27:02,072
I just laid the lines.
834
00:27:02,392 –> 00:27:02,552
Oh.
835
00:27:03,312 –> 00:27:04,072
Listen, I’ll call you back.
836
00:27:04,152 –> 00:27:04,632
Okay.
837
00:27:04,792 –> 00:27:04,992
Wow.
838
00:27:08,912 –> 00:27:09,752
Where’s he at?
839
00:27:11,512 –> 00:27:12,112
I mean, like,
840
00:27:12,112 –> 00:27:12,632
what?
841
00:27:13,112 –> 00:27:14,312
Where’s he a volunteer firefighter?
842
00:27:14,312 –> 00:27:15,632
On the island.
843
00:27:16,072 –> 00:27:16,672
So, I mean,
844
00:27:16,672 –> 00:27:17,832
if he’s pulling hoes,
845
00:27:17,832 –> 00:27:19,752
then he’s probably a volunteer.
846
00:27:20,152 –> 00:27:21,352
You know, maybe the Hamptons.
847
00:27:22,072 –> 00:27:22,192
Wow.
848
00:27:22,232 –> 00:27:23,112
There’s people trapped in.
849
00:27:23,112 –> 00:27:23,512
Oh, God.
850
00:27:23,912 –> 00:27:24,752
Automotive place,
851
00:27:24,752 –> 00:27:25,752
he said, too.
852
00:27:26,632 –> 00:27:28,632
And does anybody care those trapped people,
853
00:27:28,632 –> 00:27:32,072
the way they vote or how they think?
854
00:27:32,872 –> 00:27:34,552
you just, bro,
855
00:27:34,552 –> 00:27:36,472
are you a volunteer firefighter?
856
00:27:36,712 –> 00:27:37,272
Used to be,
857
00:27:37,592 –> 00:27:38,312
12 years.
858
00:27:38,472 –> 00:27:38,672
Wow.
859
00:27:39,192 –> 00:27:39,952
Out there in the sticks,
860
00:27:39,952 –> 00:27:40,312
out there?
861
00:27:40,312 –> 00:27:41,432
City of Gibraltar.
862
00:27:41,432 –> 00:27:42,392
City of Gibraltar.
863
00:27:43,192 –> 00:27:43,912
Yeah, well,
864
00:27:43,912 –> 00:27:47,992
all my respect to people in the uniform for sure,
865
00:27:47,992 –> 00:27:48,312
man.
866
00:27:49,352 –> 00:27:49,632
All right,
867
00:27:49,632 –> 00:27:50,792
let me turn on the,
868
00:27:50,792 –> 00:27:52,952
in case he calls back.
869
00:27:54,552 –> 00:27:55,152
Good old Chris.
870
00:27:55,152 –> 00:27:57,672
See, Chris is a real dude.
871
00:27:57,672 –> 00:27:58,232
I’m sorry,
872
00:27:58,232 –> 00:27:59,152
you could pick on him,
873
00:27:59,152 –> 00:27:59,992
you can hate him,
874
00:27:59,992 –> 00:28:00,392
you can…
875
00:28:01,912 –> 00:28:03,992
go back to his coverage during COVID,
876
00:28:03,992 –> 00:28:05,112
but he’s a really good dude.
877
00:28:05,112 –> 00:28:09,512
And once he flew me out to do his show and we had a
878
00:28:09,512 –> 00:28:12,992
couple of cocktails in the hotel lounge and we went
879
00:28:12,992 –> 00:28:16,512
outside and had a cigarette and it was me and Chris,
880
00:28:16,512 –> 00:28:19,432
I was like hanging with him till his car came in case
881
00:28:19,432 –> 00:28:20,552
anybody fucked with him.
882
00:28:21,112 –> 00:28:21,832
You know what I mean?
883
00:28:22,152 –> 00:28:22,872
Fuck you.
884
00:28:23,592 –> 00:28:27,312
And I just think those days of like being able to stand
885
00:28:27,312 –> 00:28:29,112
out on a corner and have a cigarette or
886
00:28:29,712 –> 00:28:31,432
are over and that makes me sad too.
887
00:28:32,072 –> 00:28:34,552
That’s probably the saddest thing I’ve ever heard you
888
00:28:34,552 –> 00:28:34,952
say.
889
00:28:34,952 –> 00:28:38,472
You just can’t sit out on a street corner.
890
00:28:38,872 –> 00:28:40,312
I think one thing about Chris,
891
00:28:40,312 –> 00:28:42,792
though, I think people don’t give him credit for it.
892
00:28:43,592 –> 00:28:45,112
He owns up to his mistakes.
893
00:28:45,672 –> 00:28:48,392
That’s kind of the reason why I don’t mind watching
894
00:28:48,392 –> 00:28:48,632
him.
895
00:28:49,592 –> 00:28:50,872
You know, when he was at CNN,
896
00:28:50,872 –> 00:28:51,512
I don’t think so,
897
00:28:51,512 –> 00:28:52,552
but since he left there,
898
00:28:53,312 –> 00:28:55,912
he’s evolved as a person and he’ll have people on
899
00:28:55,912 –> 00:28:56,592
who disagree with him.
900
00:28:56,592 –> 00:28:57,832
He never did that at CNN.
901
00:28:58,952 –> 00:28:59,752
as far as I know,
902
00:28:59,912 –> 00:29:03,272
but regularly people who disagree with him and on
903
00:29:03,272 –> 00:29:06,192
and he’ll engage in a decent conversation with it.
904
00:29:06,192 –> 00:29:07,272
They don’t all go great.
905
00:29:07,872 –> 00:29:08,872
And he gets a rap like,
906
00:29:08,872 –> 00:29:09,192
you know,
907
00:29:09,192 –> 00:29:12,992
hey man, you’re trying to be too much on one side
908
00:29:12,992 –> 00:29:14,072
and then on the other side.
909
00:29:14,072 –> 00:29:14,512
Like, you know,
910
00:29:14,552 –> 00:29:16,952
you’ll hear that clip with he did with Benny Johnson.
911
00:29:17,192 –> 00:29:17,512
But
912
00:29:18,392 –> 00:29:19,192
Maybe so.
913
00:29:19,512 –> 00:29:21,272
But in the course of those conversations,
914
00:29:21,272 –> 00:29:23,272
you’ll find pretty much find out where he’s coming
915
00:29:23,272 –> 00:29:23,632
from.
916
00:29:23,912 –> 00:29:24,552
You know what I mean?
917
00:29:24,632 –> 00:29:26,592
And he gets criticized from the right and the left
918
00:29:26,592 –> 00:29:29,032
now, so you know he’s probably he’s probably doing
919
00:29:29,032 –> 00:29:29,472
something right.
920
00:29:29,472 –> 00:29:29,592
Yeah.
921
00:29:29,592 –> 00:29:31,472
And at the beginning it was hard for him because like
922
00:29:31,472 –> 00:29:33,032
he was the show at CNN,
923
00:29:33,032 –> 00:29:33,432
you know,
924
00:29:33,712 –> 00:29:37,472
and then he’s on News Nation and I think he’s grown
925
00:29:37,472 –> 00:29:38,392
into the fact that it’s,
926
00:29:38,392 –> 00:29:38,672
you know,
927
00:29:38,672 –> 00:29:41,192
he’s probably caught CNN by now.
928
00:29:42,112 –> 00:29:43,072
I wouldn’t be surprised.
929
00:29:43,072 –> 00:29:43,192
Yeah.
930
00:29:44,432 –> 00:29:46,792
And I think he’s on opposite.
931
00:29:46,792 –> 00:29:48,392
Is he on opposite like Anderson Cooper?
932
00:29:49,352 –> 00:29:50,392
He’s on an 8 o’clock.
933
00:29:50,392 –> 00:29:52,832
So I wouldn’t be surprised if he caught if he demolished
934
00:29:52,832 –> 00:29:53,432
Anderson Cooper.
935
00:29:53,432 –> 00:29:55,832
I don’t know anybody who watches that show for news.
936
00:29:56,232 –> 00:29:58,672
I think the only people I know watch that show is to
937
00:29:58,672 –> 00:30:01,032
watch it ironically or to get clips of people saying
938
00:30:01,032 –> 00:30:01,552
stupid things.
939
00:30:01,552 –> 00:30:03,352
The only time I see it is when I’m actually looking
940
00:30:03,352 –> 00:30:04,112
for the tote board.
941
00:30:04,112 –> 00:30:06,152
Where’s what gates my flight coming out of?
942
00:30:06,752 –> 00:30:08,232
You know what I think?
943
00:30:08,232 –> 00:30:09,272
Oh my God.
944
00:30:10,152 –> 00:30:13,352
Because they’re just not honest.
945
00:30:14,352 –> 00:30:14,912
They’re just not,
946
00:30:14,912 –> 00:30:16,392
and you have to be in news.
947
00:30:17,272 –> 00:30:17,912
You have to be.
948
00:30:17,912 –> 00:30:19,112
All right,
949
00:30:19,112 –> 00:30:20,232
we’ll be back after this.
950
00:30:20,712 –> 00:30:23,352
Is this the hole in one?
951
00:30:23,352 –> 00:30:24,952
It’s a hole in one,
952
00:30:25,032 –> 00:30:25,632
$50,000 if you hit it.
953
00:30:27,512 –> 00:30:28,632
Luke Nowacki,
954
00:30:28,792 –> 00:30:31,152
Financial Wealth Management.
955
00:30:31,712 –> 00:30:33,592
What is 50 grand after tax?
956
00:30:37,032 –> 00:30:39,072
37,750.
957
00:30:39,112 –> 00:30:40,072
What about state tax?
958
00:30:40,472 –> 00:30:41,032
Yeah, that’s,
959
00:30:41,552 –> 00:30:43,032
I’m throwing both in there.
960
00:30:43,472 –> 00:30:44,472
What about sales tax?
961
00:30:44,632 –> 00:30:45,432
There’s no sales tax.
962
00:30:45,432 –> 00:30:46,232
Well, you’re buying the beer.
963
00:30:46,232 –> 00:30:46,712
It’s income.
964
00:30:46,712 –> 00:30:47,352
You’ll buy the beer.
965
00:30:47,672 –> 00:30:48,632
Yeah, we write that off.
966
00:30:49,832 –> 00:30:50,552
Luke Nowacki.
967
00:30:51,592 –> 00:30:52,832
Financial Wealth Management.
968
00:30:52,832 –> 00:30:53,512
Expense allowance.
969
00:30:54,112 –> 00:30:55,032
And now some news,
970
00:30:55,032 –> 00:30:56,152
some news that we did,
971
00:30:56,152 –> 00:30:56,472
Ken.
972
00:30:56,472 –> 00:30:58,792
Some original and important news.
973
00:30:58,872 –> 00:30:59,112
Hit it.
974
00:30:59,112 –> 00:31:01,672
Big troubles for the big city machine boss.
975
00:31:01,992 –> 00:31:05,072
A cancer cloud hanging over Mayor Mike Duggan’s Detroit.
976
00:31:05,072 –> 00:31:09,592
And now they can see the smoke all the way to Escanaba.
977
00:31:09,592 –> 00:31:10,792
All right.
978
00:31:11,672 –> 00:31:12,352
my goodness.
979
00:31:12,552 –> 00:31:13,512
A couple years ago,
980
00:31:13,512 –> 00:31:15,752
we announced a fair for all the blight work we were
981
00:31:15,752 –> 00:31:18,312
doing to pitch minority contractors.
982
00:31:18,472 –> 00:31:20,952
And there was a fellow by the name of Brian McKinney.
983
00:31:21,272 –> 00:31:22,632
He said, I can do this.
984
00:31:22,952 –> 00:31:23,592
Yeah, well,
985
00:31:23,592 –> 00:31:24,392
maybe, Mr.
986
00:31:24,392 –> 00:31:26,552
Mayor, but in 2018,
987
00:31:26,552 –> 00:31:29,752
the guy got busted for ripping down an apartment block
988
00:31:29,992 –> 00:31:31,752
without removing the asbestos,
989
00:31:31,912 –> 00:31:35,352
sending a cloud of carcinogens over the community.
990
00:31:35,352 –> 00:31:37,512
Most contractors would never work again,
991
00:31:37,512 –> 00:31:38,872
but not this guy.
992
00:31:39,272 –> 00:31:40,552
Duggan took care of it.
993
00:31:40,952 –> 00:31:41,472
He started
994
00:31:41,552 –> 00:31:43,512
He started a company in the city called Gallaga,
995
00:31:43,672 –> 00:31:44,432
became his own boss,
996
00:31:44,432 –> 00:31:45,992
started winning some small bids.
997
00:31:46,392 –> 00:31:48,632
And it turns out he’s really good at it.
998
00:31:48,632 –> 00:31:49,432
Yeah, well,
999
00:31:49,432 –> 00:31:50,552
maybe not so much,
1000
00:31:50,552 –> 00:31:51,992
because after our reports,
1001
00:31:51,992 –> 00:31:53,592
the guy’s been busted again.
1002
00:31:53,992 –> 00:31:57,352
This time for allegedly filling demo holes in Detroit
1003
00:31:57,432 –> 00:31:58,872
with, wait for it,
1004
00:32:00,072 –> 00:32:03,032
contaminated soil from the old Northland Mall.
1005
00:32:03,832 –> 00:32:05,112
Brian, please stand up.
1006
00:32:06,212 –> 00:32:08,652
have a Detroit product back home.
1007
00:32:09,132 –> 00:32:10,252
Yep, that’s him.
1008
00:32:10,452 –> 00:32:13,052
And now he’s been suspended for working in the city
1009
00:32:13,212 –> 00:32:16,652
after an investigation by the city’s inspector general.
1010
00:32:16,892 –> 00:32:17,692
And in the end,
1011
00:32:17,852 –> 00:32:19,532
he may be banned for life.
1012
00:32:19,772 –> 00:32:22,252
I would say roughly at least 500.
1013
00:32:22,492 –> 00:32:23,572
500 houses?
1014
00:32:23,572 –> 00:32:24,372
At least 500.
1015
00:32:24,492 –> 00:32:27,892
He has got the most rapid growing demolition contractor
1016
00:32:27,892 –> 00:32:28,892
in the state of Michigan.
1017
00:32:29,132 –> 00:32:32,332
45 full-time employees and 85%
1018
00:32:32,332 –> 00:32:33,732
are Detroiters.
1019
00:32:33,852 –> 00:32:34,572
Yeah, maybe,
1020
00:32:34,572 –> 00:32:34,892
but…
1021
00:32:35,452 –> 00:32:36,732
Who do you think ratted him out?
1022
00:32:37,492 –> 00:32:38,532
Here comes all the bullshit.
1023
00:32:38,812 –> 00:32:41,772
It makes you wonder how much this country is missing
1024
00:32:42,172 –> 00:32:45,612
by the way it has kept black and brown contractors
1025
00:32:45,772 –> 00:32:47,572
from starting work and developing them.
1026
00:32:47,772 –> 00:32:48,972
I can’t get a number.
1027
00:32:49,132 –> 00:32:50,412
I don’t see the cause.
1028
00:32:50,532 –> 00:32:51,292
That’s nonsense,
1029
00:32:51,292 –> 00:32:51,572
Charlie.
1030
00:32:51,572 –> 00:32:53,012
You’ve gotten every single number.
1031
00:32:53,692 –> 00:32:55,052
Under Mayor Mike Duggan,
1032
00:32:55,372 –> 00:32:58,092
$700 million in demo dollars,
1033
00:32:58,252 –> 00:33:00,652
a seven-year federal investigation,
1034
00:33:00,892 –> 00:33:04,092
freeways and sewer debris being thrown in the holes,
1035
00:33:04,252 –> 00:33:05,932
and now the Northland Mall.
1036
00:33:06,332 –> 00:33:09,932
It makes you wonder how many black and brown children
1037
00:33:10,412 –> 00:33:11,292
got sick.
1038
00:33:11,612 –> 00:33:12,572
Thanks, Mr.
1039
00:33:12,812 –> 00:33:18,172
Mayor! And now the Teflon leprechaun wants to be your
1040
00:33:18,172 –> 00:33:18,812
governor,
1041
00:33:18,812 –> 00:33:19,692
Escanaba.
1042
00:33:20,972 –> 00:33:22,172
Pure Michigan.
1043
00:33:22,892 –> 00:33:23,532
Okay, Ken.
1044
00:33:23,532 –> 00:33:29,532
So that is a result of our journalism.
1045
00:33:29,692 –> 00:33:30,092
Yes.
1046
00:33:30,092 –> 00:33:30,852
We worked hard,
1047
00:33:30,852 –> 00:33:31,532
did we not?
1048
00:33:31,892 –> 00:33:32,332
Oh, yes.
1049
00:33:32,332 –> 00:33:34,492
That original one took us a month.
1050
00:33:35,292 –> 00:33:36,572
Pieces, pieces,
1051
00:33:36,612 –> 00:33:37,212
whistleblower.
1052
00:33:37,452 –> 00:33:39,052
Used to be in the construction industry.
1053
00:33:39,052 –> 00:33:40,572
You know all about this,
1054
00:33:40,892 –> 00:33:41,252
right?
1055
00:33:41,532 –> 00:33:44,892
So we are trying to look after the community and we’re
1056
00:33:44,892 –> 00:33:46,332
trying to let you know,
1057
00:33:46,332 –> 00:33:47,452
ladies and gentlemen,
1058
00:33:47,932 –> 00:33:50,732
what it is you’re voting for because we’re not tweeting.
1059
00:33:51,372 –> 00:33:52,972
We’re not really caring about cliques.
1060
00:33:53,532 –> 00:33:55,612
We care about you and how we’re gonna live,
1061
00:33:55,652 –> 00:33:57,852
and that’s how it goes down here,
1062
00:33:58,092 –> 00:33:58,412
right?
1063
00:33:58,892 –> 00:34:00,772
That guy’s connected to that guy,
1064
00:34:00,772 –> 00:34:02,172
and they’re doing us wrong,
1065
00:34:02,372 –> 00:34:03,932
and nobody wants to stand up.
1066
00:34:04,252 –> 00:34:05,732
So thank you,
1067
00:34:05,732 –> 00:34:07,172
Office of Inspector General.
1068
00:34:07,172 –> 00:34:10,172
Get the, here’s a cap to all this.
1069
00:34:10,732 –> 00:34:14,652
The Office of Inspector General was created in 2012
1070
00:34:15,132 –> 00:34:19,452
in the wake of the Kwame Kilpatrick bribery and kickback
1071
00:34:19,452 –> 00:34:21,692
scandal involving city contractors.
1072
00:34:21,692 –> 00:34:22,812
Now, ironically,
1073
00:34:22,972 –> 00:34:25,772
Duggan, the longtime Wayne County machine boss,
1074
00:34:26,092 –> 00:34:30,012
was a mentor to Kilpatrick during Kilpatrick’s political
1075
00:34:30,012 –> 00:34:30,412
rise.
1076
00:34:30,812 –> 00:34:32,412
So back in the old days of Wayne County,
1077
00:34:32,652 –> 00:34:33,692
Ed McNamara,
1078
00:34:34,092 –> 00:34:36,692
he was going to get indicted for all the contracts,
1079
00:34:36,692 –> 00:34:37,212
but he died.
1080
00:34:37,372 –> 00:34:38,972
The #2 was Mike Duggan.
1081
00:34:39,292 –> 00:34:41,452
The #3 was Bernard Kilpatrick.
1082
00:34:41,612 –> 00:34:43,772
And the #4 was Jennifer Granholm.
1083
00:34:44,492 –> 00:34:49,212
So, Kilpatrick has a relationship with Duggan and Kilpatrick
1084
00:34:49,292 –> 00:34:53,132
was a guest at Duggan’s 2021 wedding to Dr.
1085
00:34:53,132 –> 00:34:54,252
Sonia Hassan.
1086
00:34:54,572 –> 00:34:56,572
Now, Duggan and his staff
1087
00:34:57,612 –> 00:35:00,572
were cleared of criminal charges earlier that year
1088
00:35:01,132 –> 00:35:03,932
by Michigan Attorney General Dana Nestle after it
1089
00:35:03,932 –> 00:35:07,292
was alleged that Duggan steered public money to Hassan’s
1090
00:35:07,292 –> 00:35:11,052
nonprofit and that his staff was instructed to delete
1091
00:35:11,052 –> 00:35:12,332
evidence showing so,
1092
00:35:12,412 –> 00:35:13,532
which they did,
1093
00:35:13,572 –> 00:35:14,572
which Nestle said,
1094
00:35:14,732 –> 00:35:15,852
well, we recovered it,
1095
00:35:15,852 –> 00:35:17,212
so it really wasn’t destroyed,
1096
00:35:17,212 –> 00:35:18,412
so there’s nothing to see here.
1097
00:35:18,572 –> 00:35:20,732
Now, both Dr.
1098
00:35:20,732 –> 00:35:22,492
Hassan and McKinney
1099
00:35:23,852 –> 00:35:27,332
previously convicted of felony gun and drug charges
1100
00:35:27,332 –> 00:35:29,092
and have money in a Louis Vuitton bag.
1101
00:35:29,452 –> 00:35:30,812
He did time in the pen.
1102
00:35:31,372 –> 00:35:33,972
Both of them serve on the board of the Detroit Institute
1103
00:35:33,972 –> 00:35:36,172
of Arts, according to the museum’s website.
1104
00:35:36,412 –> 00:35:39,132
And that’s how it works down here.
1105
00:35:41,932 –> 00:35:42,332
Amazing.
1106
00:35:42,812 –> 00:35:44,692
Is that not surprising to you?
1107
00:35:45,212 –> 00:35:46,172
Not a shock at all.
1108
00:35:46,892 –> 00:35:47,572
Did you know that?
1109
00:35:47,572 –> 00:35:50,492
Did you just get some information that you can use?
1110
00:35:50,972 –> 00:35:53,612
I got quite a bit of information I can use.
1111
00:35:53,612 –> 00:35:54,172
Okay.
1112
00:35:56,172 –> 00:35:58,932
Well, since we did Gilcrest as running for governor
1113
00:35:58,932 –> 00:36:00,892
and hey, I got a bomb threat too.
1114
00:36:02,092 –> 00:36:03,932
Let me announce it on a Sunday talk show.
1115
00:36:04,972 –> 00:36:05,292
Okay.
1116
00:36:05,452 –> 00:36:08,212
And Duggins running for governor.
1117
00:36:08,212 –> 00:36:11,812
I suppose we should talk about Benson because I don’t
1118
00:36:11,812 –> 00:36:13,532
know who the Republicans even doing yet.
1119
00:36:13,532 –> 00:36:14,572
You know what I mean?
1120
00:36:14,692 –> 00:36:14,972
Okay.
1121
00:36:15,452 –> 00:36:18,812
So here’s a video.
1122
00:36:19,612 –> 00:36:22,092
This is the most whacked out video I’ve seen in the
1123
00:36:22,092 –> 00:36:22,892
last hour.
1124
00:36:23,372 –> 00:36:24,372
That’s saying something.
1125
00:36:24,652 –> 00:36:27,292
This is Jocelyn Benson.
1126
00:36:28,212 –> 00:36:29,532
There’s not really much to listen to.
1127
00:36:29,532 –> 00:36:30,412
You have to see it.
1128
00:36:30,412 –> 00:36:34,252
But Jocelyn Benson wanting to talk about kitchen table
1129
00:36:34,252 –> 00:36:34,972
issues.
1130
00:36:35,132 –> 00:36:37,692
So let’s, if you’re listening,
1131
00:36:37,692 –> 00:36:38,572
you can go to,
1132
00:36:39,452 –> 00:36:39,852
you know,
1133
00:36:41,492 –> 00:36:47,612
You can find it on No BS News Hour on YouTube or of
1134
00:36:47,612 –> 00:36:49,292
course, Charlie Love’s Twitter.
1135
00:36:49,372 –> 00:36:49,932
Twitter.
1136
00:36:49,932 –> 00:36:50,092
Yeah.
1137
00:36:50,452 –> 00:36:50,612
Okay.
1138
00:36:50,612 –> 00:36:52,892
You’re going to put it on Facebook.
1139
00:36:52,892 –> 00:36:53,532
Sure.
1140
00:36:53,852 –> 00:36:54,332
Put it all up.
1141
00:36:54,332 –> 00:36:56,732
How is it that the Russians have my Facebook?
1142
00:36:57,132 –> 00:36:58,412
Mark has my Facebook,
1143
00:36:58,732 –> 00:37:00,292
but I can’t get into my Facebook.
1144
00:37:00,332 –> 00:37:01,572
What’s up with Facebook?
1145
00:37:03,092 –> 00:37:03,492
Jeez.
1146
00:37:03,852 –> 00:37:05,452
Somebody was saying operator error.
1147
00:37:05,612 –> 00:37:06,492
Okay, if you know,
1148
00:37:06,572 –> 00:37:07,532
I’ll describe it.
1149
00:37:08,332 –> 00:37:10,572
for you guys driving up to Escanaba,
1150
00:37:10,652 –> 00:37:12,892
trying to get some of that last night.
1151
00:37:13,052 –> 00:37:14,732
Watch the leaves change,
1152
00:37:15,052 –> 00:37:16,012
so Michigan.
1153
00:37:16,172 –> 00:37:16,972
So is this.
1154
00:37:17,132 –> 00:37:19,372
Hey guys, here she is.
1155
00:37:19,372 –> 00:37:21,692
So I talked to a lot of folks around.
1156
00:37:21,852 –> 00:37:22,012
Pause.
1157
00:37:23,852 –> 00:37:25,452
She really is at a kitchen table.
1158
00:37:26,012 –> 00:37:26,772
Or what do you call that,
1159
00:37:26,772 –> 00:37:27,252
an island?
1160
00:37:27,252 –> 00:37:28,532
It’s not really a kitchen table.
1161
00:37:28,532 –> 00:37:29,172
It’s an island.
1162
00:37:29,212 –> 00:37:31,452
Not all of us can have granite islands,
1163
00:37:31,492 –> 00:37:31,932
okay?
1164
00:37:31,932 –> 00:37:36,012
Hey guys, so I talked to a lot of folks around the
1165
00:37:36,052 –> 00:37:36,332
state.
1166
00:37:36,852 –> 00:37:39,652
What is up with the Elmer Fudd baseball cap?
1167
00:37:39,652 –> 00:37:40,892
Yeah, did she just buy that?
1168
00:37:40,892 –> 00:37:42,572
It doesn’t fit.
1169
00:37:42,772 –> 00:37:43,132
Pause.
1170
00:37:44,252 –> 00:37:45,532
What’s it say in her shirt?
1171
00:37:46,572 –> 00:37:48,652
AFSCME Michigan.
1172
00:37:49,292 –> 00:37:50,492
It’s a union.
1173
00:37:51,692 –> 00:37:52,252
Okay, look,
1174
00:37:52,252 –> 00:37:53,772
man, I believe in unions.
1175
00:37:53,852 –> 00:37:55,612
I’ve always belonged to a union.
1176
00:37:55,852 –> 00:37:59,372
But if you’re running to be the governor of all,
1177
00:37:59,372 –> 00:38:03,132
you can’t advertise for a union.
1178
00:38:03,172 –> 00:38:04,892
Well, you can if you want to,
1179
00:38:04,972 –> 00:38:08,972
but that’s another thing that’s disappeared and evaporated
1180
00:38:09,132 –> 00:38:10,252
in American culture.
1181
00:38:10,732 –> 00:38:11,932
You must represent all,
1182
00:38:12,572 –> 00:38:12,892
right?
1183
00:38:13,852 –> 00:38:14,572
Okay, now,
1184
00:38:15,492 –> 00:38:16,572
Let’s get a cup of coffee.
1185
00:38:16,572 –> 00:38:17,692
Let’s watch this coffee.
1186
00:38:17,692 –> 00:38:19,772
To talk specifically about how we can make your life.
1187
00:38:19,772 –> 00:38:20,172
We rewind it,
1188
00:38:20,172 –> 00:38:20,572
man.
1189
00:38:20,572 –> 00:38:21,772
Let me, let’s just watch.
1190
00:38:21,852 –> 00:38:24,572
Everybody keep your eye on the cup of coffee.
1191
00:38:25,372 –> 00:38:27,732
Talk to a lot of folks around the state who really
1192
00:38:27,732 –> 00:38:30,332
need our leaders to talk specifically about how we
1193
00:38:30,412 –> 00:38:31,212
make your lives better.
1194
00:38:31,452 –> 00:38:32,452
She drank all the booze.
1195
00:38:32,652 –> 00:38:33,852
Yeah, it’s totally empty.
1196
00:38:35,172 –> 00:38:38,492
It’s about kitchen table issues and having the kitchen
1197
00:38:38,492 –> 00:38:41,452
table conversations that we need to have to ensure
1198
00:38:41,452 –> 00:38:42,812
we are improving our lives.
1199
00:38:43,252 –> 00:38:45,252
So this week I want to talk specifically about…
1200
00:38:46,492 –> 00:38:46,812
Okay.
1201
00:38:47,612 –> 00:38:47,932
Again.
1202
00:38:49,052 –> 00:38:49,412
First of all,
1203
00:38:49,412 –> 00:38:50,492
where’s the coffee maker?
1204
00:38:50,972 –> 00:38:52,972
This reminds me of Elizabeth Warren going,
1205
00:38:53,292 –> 00:38:54,572
I’m going to get me a beer.
1206
00:38:54,572 –> 00:38:54,732
Oh yeah.
1207
00:38:54,812 –> 00:38:56,092
I’m going to get me a beer.
1208
00:38:56,092 –> 00:38:56,972
How do you want beer?
1209
00:38:57,132 –> 00:38:57,452
No.
1210
00:38:59,212 –> 00:39:00,732
he’s miserable to be there.
1211
00:39:00,732 –> 00:39:02,732
It’s like the dog knows you’d draw on his bath.
1212
00:39:02,732 –> 00:39:02,972
Right?
1213
00:39:06,012 –> 00:39:07,612
Now, what did she just say there?
1214
00:39:08,012 –> 00:39:09,812
This is my belief about government.
1215
00:39:10,692 –> 00:39:11,532
Rewind a little bit.
1216
00:39:12,092 –> 00:39:12,212
Yeah.
1217
00:39:13,692 –> 00:39:16,652
Issues and having the kitchen table conversations that
1218
00:39:16,652 –> 00:39:19,292
we need to have to ensure we are improving your lives.
1219
00:39:19,372 –> 00:39:19,772
Pause.
1220
00:39:20,572 –> 00:39:25,212
To ensure that you are improving my life.
1221
00:39:26,172 –> 00:39:27,692
Is that what government’s for?
1222
00:39:28,252 –> 00:39:29,212
Is government even,
1223
00:39:29,292 –> 00:39:30,652
is that possible?
1224
00:39:30,892 –> 00:39:31,692
Who believes that?
1225
00:39:31,852 –> 00:39:34,812
Who really thinks they’re trying to improve our lives?
1226
00:39:34,812 –> 00:39:35,052
Right.
1227
00:39:35,292 –> 00:39:36,732
By whose standard is that?
1228
00:39:37,372 –> 00:39:37,652
Right?
1229
00:39:37,692 –> 00:39:39,052
Whose standard is that?
1230
00:39:39,772 –> 00:39:40,652
Prove my life.
1231
00:39:40,812 –> 00:39:42,812
Okay, prove my fucking life.
1232
00:39:43,172 –> 00:39:45,572
The whole fucking state is gridlocked.
1233
00:39:45,932 –> 00:39:46,412
They’re not,
1234
00:39:46,932 –> 00:39:47,652
I’m commuting in it,
1235
00:39:47,652 –> 00:39:48,452
they’re not one Rd.
1236
00:39:48,452 –> 00:39:51,852
it didn’t have barrels on it and like miles of traffic.
1237
00:39:53,772 –> 00:39:55,772
Prove my life just fixed the fucking roads,
1238
00:39:55,772 –> 00:39:56,092
man.
1239
00:39:56,732 –> 00:39:58,492
Yeah, I drove out to Ann Arbor on Saturday.
1240
00:39:58,732 –> 00:40:00,092
Every single Rd.
1241
00:40:00,092 –> 00:40:05,452
I drove had construction on it from Greenfield to 696
1242
00:40:05,452 –> 00:40:07,292
to 275 was doing construction.
1243
00:40:07,292 –> 00:40:08,052
M14.
1244
00:40:08,052 –> 00:40:11,012
And a lot of those roads were just fixed too,
1245
00:40:11,012 –> 00:40:11,892
not long ago.
1246
00:40:11,892 –> 00:40:13,052
Yeah, it’s awful.
1247
00:40:13,052 –> 00:40:14,652
Well, if you go up 75,
1248
00:40:14,652 –> 00:40:17,372
they got the Zwalkie Bridge completely shut down.
1249
00:40:17,852 –> 00:40:20,332
They take you 675
1250
00:40:20,772 –> 00:40:21,572
all the way around,
1251
00:40:21,772 –> 00:40:24,972
send you back down 75 to go 2 miles up.
1252
00:40:25,692 –> 00:40:27,212
I just want my life,
1253
00:40:27,292 –> 00:40:28,492
my drive improved.
1254
00:40:29,172 –> 00:40:30,892
Yeah, you’re going to improve your life and do the
1255
00:40:30,892 –> 00:40:31,932
Zilwaukee Bridge.
1256
00:40:31,932 –> 00:40:34,652
Now it’s worse than before we had the Zilwaukee Bridge.
1257
00:40:34,932 –> 00:40:36,172
I used to have a little bridge.
1258
00:40:39,052 –> 00:40:42,092
Who are the worst commuters in Metro Detroit?
1259
00:40:42,092 –> 00:40:44,932
Those that take the Lodge or those that take Southfield?
1260
00:40:45,532 –> 00:40:46,092
Because
1261
00:40:46,492 –> 00:40:47,852
You drive like assholes,
1262
00:40:47,852 –> 00:40:48,252
man.
1263
00:40:48,252 –> 00:40:49,732
696, I think.
1264
00:40:50,012 –> 00:40:50,572
Well, not right now,
1265
00:40:50,652 –> 00:40:51,532
but the lodge.
1266
00:40:51,532 –> 00:40:52,332
Because that’s close.
1267
00:40:54,052 –> 00:40:56,012
All those assholes are going on the lodge.
1268
00:40:56,212 –> 00:40:56,692
Which one?
1269
00:40:56,932 –> 00:40:57,612
Which is worse?
1270
00:40:58,892 –> 00:40:59,412
Southfield.
1271
00:40:59,412 –> 00:41:00,452
I think Southfield is worse.
1272
00:41:00,492 –> 00:41:00,812
Yeah.
1273
00:41:02,652 –> 00:41:03,132
You know what?
1274
00:41:03,292 –> 00:41:05,132
You’re not good fucking drivers.
1275
00:41:05,612 –> 00:41:06,772
I’m the good driver.
1276
00:41:06,772 –> 00:41:09,932
The reason you don’t get hit is because I’m looking
1277
00:41:09,932 –> 00:41:10,652
for you.
1278
00:41:11,132 –> 00:41:12,452
don’t know how to drive.
1279
00:41:12,452 –> 00:41:15,772
You want to hear more?
1280
00:41:17,012 –> 00:41:19,052
So this week I want to talk specifically about the
1281
00:41:19,052 –> 00:41:20,732
workers who power the state.
1282
00:41:21,252 –> 00:41:24,252
in my department we negotiated raises for the UAW staff
1283
00:41:24,252 –> 00:41:24,972
that we work with.
1284
00:41:27,692 –> 00:41:31,292
So my department negotiated raises.
1285
00:41:31,292 –> 00:41:31,932
Okay, wait.
1286
00:41:32,172 –> 00:41:39,052
So if the union didn’t come to you asking for a raise,
1287
00:41:39,052 –> 00:41:40,612
would you have given them a raise to make their life
1288
00:41:40,612 –> 00:41:40,972
better?
1289
00:41:41,932 –> 00:41:43,972
You see what’s going on there?
1290
00:41:45,132 –> 00:41:45,612
It’s also,
1291
00:41:45,692 –> 00:41:48,172
it’s also with her wearing the union shirt,
1292
00:41:48,172 –> 00:41:50,812
it appears as if the union is negotiating with itself
1293
00:41:50,972 –> 00:41:52,652
or a sympathizer,
1294
00:41:52,652 –> 00:41:55,292
which is very common in public unions.
1295
00:41:55,452 –> 00:41:58,572
That’s why even FDR thought public unions were a bad
1296
00:41:58,572 –> 00:41:59,452
idea, by the way.
1297
00:42:00,012 –> 00:42:01,452
Slashes those races.
1298
00:42:01,852 –> 00:42:04,492
I mean, why wouldn’t we want to pay hard-working people
1299
00:42:04,492 –> 00:42:07,052
who make their life’s work the Secretary of State
1300
00:42:07,092 –> 00:42:09,532
Office and make it running smoothly and efficiently?
1301
00:42:09,692 –> 00:42:11,772
Why wouldn’t we want to pay them a fair wage?
1302
00:42:14,932 –> 00:42:16,852
What, you weren’t paying him a fair wage for the last
1303
00:42:16,852 –> 00:42:17,372
seven years?
1304
00:42:17,492 –> 00:42:17,612
Right.
1305
00:42:17,612 –> 00:42:19,452
Is that what was going on there?
1306
00:42:20,252 –> 00:42:22,772
I think those people were probably pretty well paid.
1307
00:42:22,772 –> 00:42:24,652
Do you know we’re running deficits now?
1308
00:42:25,612 –> 00:42:26,892
You know what we did?
1309
00:42:27,612 –> 00:42:30,812
We gave, when Duggan was,
1310
00:42:30,972 –> 00:42:33,572
hey, this guy’s a contractor,
1311
00:42:33,572 –> 00:42:34,892
boy, he would really grow it there.
1312
00:42:35,372 –> 00:42:41,052
He did that in the Jefferson North plant.
1313
00:42:41,452 –> 00:42:42,172
The one
1314
00:42:42,972 –> 00:42:46,812
that we gave Whitmer and the city $400 million.
1315
00:42:50,611 –> 00:42:52,811
The company merges,
1316
00:42:53,291 –> 00:42:54,891
it was Fiat Chrysler.
1317
00:42:55,131 –> 00:42:55,971
Once they got that,
1318
00:42:55,971 –> 00:42:56,891
two months later,
1319
00:42:56,891 –> 00:42:57,851
once they got it,
1320
00:42:58,251 –> 00:42:59,691
they become Stellantis.
1321
00:42:59,691 –> 00:43:00,411
There’s A merger.
1322
00:43:00,491 –> 00:43:01,451
We weren’t told that.
1323
00:43:01,851 –> 00:43:04,411
Right now in that place that he’s showing off,
1324
00:43:04,411 –> 00:43:05,931
they didn’t create a new job.
1325
00:43:06,731 –> 00:43:08,091
Not one new job.
1326
00:43:08,091 –> 00:43:10,971
We gave multinationals a half a billion.
1327
00:43:11,091 –> 00:43:12,491
That’s what Whitmer’s been doing,
1328
00:43:12,651 –> 00:43:13,771
wasting money,
1329
00:43:14,331 –> 00:43:15,771
stuff that doesn’t work.
1330
00:43:16,171 –> 00:43:17,371
That’s why we’re broke.
1331
00:43:17,771 –> 00:43:18,571
And the reason,
1332
00:43:19,291 –> 00:43:20,571
people should have a good wage.
1333
00:43:21,451 –> 00:43:24,491
But if you’re paying from the public pot and we don’t
1334
00:43:24,491 –> 00:43:25,531
have the money to give you,
1335
00:43:26,011 –> 00:43:27,131
then we can’t pay the money.
1336
00:43:27,131 –> 00:43:29,451
It’s simple freaking math.
1337
00:43:30,091 –> 00:43:31,531
Fix the fucking roads.
1338
00:43:31,771 –> 00:43:32,731
We don’t have a budget.
1339
00:43:33,211 –> 00:43:36,051
the potential devastation in the state budget doesn’t
1340
00:43:36,051 –> 00:43:36,651
stop there.
1341
00:43:36,971 –> 00:43:39,851
This budget would force me to lay off 400 people in
1342
00:43:39,851 –> 00:43:40,571
our department.
1343
00:43:40,971 –> 00:43:41,851
I mean, these are the folks who…
1344
00:43:43,451 –> 00:43:44,411
The Secretary of State?
1345
00:43:46,571 –> 00:43:47,451
Statewide?
1346
00:43:48,011 –> 00:43:49,251
That would 400?
1347
00:43:49,251 –> 00:43:50,891
Yeah, how many people work there?
1348
00:43:50,931 –> 00:43:52,811
I’m shocked that many work there.
1349
00:43:53,451 –> 00:43:56,531
No, This is the whole Secretary of State,
1350
00:43:56,971 –> 00:43:57,291
right?
1351
00:43:57,531 –> 00:43:58,011
This is…
1352
00:43:59,251 –> 00:44:00,011
elections.
1353
00:44:00,011 –> 00:44:01,331
She’s also in charge of her.
1354
00:44:02,251 –> 00:44:03,131
Come on, man.
1355
00:44:03,291 –> 00:44:03,611
All right.
1356
00:44:03,891 –> 00:44:05,451
Like, explain it to me then.
1357
00:44:05,611 –> 00:44:06,171
You don’t got to,
1358
00:44:06,571 –> 00:44:08,491
you see what this is so empty.
1359
00:44:08,731 –> 00:44:10,571
Well, you can actually sit there with your,
1360
00:44:10,571 –> 00:44:11,611
because this is what we do,
1361
00:44:12,011 –> 00:44:12,651
madam.
1362
00:44:14,491 –> 00:44:16,251
We sit around the kitchen table and go,
1363
00:44:18,931 –> 00:44:20,011
what are the expenses?
1364
00:44:20,011 –> 00:44:21,051
we’ve got a gardener,
1365
00:44:21,051 –> 00:44:21,531
we’ve got,
1366
00:44:21,891 –> 00:44:23,771
a newspaper delivery guy,
1367
00:44:23,931 –> 00:44:26,851
we’ve got got to tip out the postman at the end of
1368
00:44:26,851 –> 00:44:27,371
the year,
1369
00:44:27,411 –> 00:44:28,811
and then like,
1370
00:44:28,811 –> 00:44:30,371
okay, how much money do we have?
1371
00:44:31,611 –> 00:44:33,131
You’re not talking to us like that.
1372
00:44:34,331 –> 00:44:34,811
Right, Bernie,
1373
00:44:34,811 –> 00:44:35,731
you’re a big businessman.
1374
00:44:35,731 –> 00:44:39,531
Not big, but I’m a businessman.
1375
00:44:39,611 –> 00:44:39,891
Yeah.
1376
00:44:40,811 –> 00:44:41,371
And you know,
1377
00:44:41,371 –> 00:44:42,811
I mean, guys owe you bills,
1378
00:44:42,811 –> 00:44:43,931
you make deals like.
1379
00:44:46,091 –> 00:44:47,211
I’m into you for that.
1380
00:44:47,371 –> 00:44:48,331
Yeah, I know you are.
1381
00:44:48,331 –> 00:44:49,931
Okay, here’s what I can,
1382
00:44:49,931 –> 00:44:51,531
this is the negotiation we can have,
1383
00:44:51,531 –> 00:44:51,731
right?
1384
00:44:51,731 –> 00:44:53,331
I mean, this is how it works.
1385
00:44:53,331 –> 00:44:56,011
I stop with the fear mongering.
1386
00:44:56,171 –> 00:44:56,971
Now what’s interesting,
1387
00:44:56,971 –> 00:44:58,091
this is why I want to take it out.
1388
00:44:58,811 –> 00:45:00,291
At theenjoyer.com,
1389
00:45:00,291 –> 00:45:03,131
which is where you can find our work.
1390
00:45:03,931 –> 00:45:07,931
James Nixon came out with a nice little investigation.
1391
00:45:08,411 –> 00:45:13,211
Jocelyn Benson was the youngest female law school dean
1392
00:45:13,211 –> 00:45:14,971
in the history of the United States.
1393
00:45:16,731 –> 00:45:17,851
He looked into her.
1394
00:45:18,331 –> 00:45:20,651
Turns out she was the least qualified,
1395
00:45:20,891 –> 00:45:22,731
that when they hired her just to be a professor,
1396
00:45:22,731 –> 00:45:24,171
she hadn’t passed the bar,
1397
00:45:24,451 –> 00:45:27,371
and yet she was still on tenure track at that time.
1398
00:45:27,851 –> 00:45:29,291
She was made interim dean,
1399
00:45:29,291 –> 00:45:32,571
and the quality of the place in the rankings collapsed
1400
00:45:32,731 –> 00:45:33,531
during her tenure.
1401
00:45:34,171 –> 00:45:36,611
Wait, are you saying that she didn’t have a law degree
1402
00:45:36,611 –> 00:45:38,851
when she was the dean of the Wayne State law,
1403
00:45:38,851 –> 00:45:39,851
when they hired her?
1404
00:45:39,851 –> 00:45:40,651
She had a law degree.
1405
00:45:40,651 –> 00:45:41,771
I mean, she didn’t pass the bar.
1406
00:45:41,811 –> 00:45:42,731
She didn’t pass the bar.
1407
00:45:43,131 –> 00:45:46,731
She has never had her name on a legal case in her life.
1408
00:45:47,611 –> 00:45:48,411
Still today?
1409
00:45:48,491 –> 00:45:49,211
Still today.
1410
00:45:49,291 –> 00:45:52,171
That’s, and she was running the law school,
1411
00:45:52,171 –> 00:45:54,331
never practiced in a courtroom.
1412
00:45:55,291 –> 00:45:56,491
Now, didn’t even pass the bar.
1413
00:45:56,491 –> 00:45:58,651
Wasn’t a full professor and was made dean.
1414
00:45:59,371 –> 00:46:07,051
Now, one candidate was head of the American Civil Liberties
1415
00:46:07,291 –> 00:46:09,131
Union, ACLU.
1416
00:46:09,251 –> 00:46:11,211
It’s pretty big organization here in Michigan.
1417
00:46:11,611 –> 00:46:14,691
One guy was a full professor on the East Coast and
1418
00:46:14,691 –> 00:46:17,851
a former interim assistant dean at Wayne State.
1419
00:46:18,171 –> 00:46:23,371
And the third was a lawyer for the Pacific Fleet.
1420
00:46:24,611 –> 00:46:30,731
And here we have an associate professor with no experience.
1421
00:46:30,971 –> 00:46:31,611
So I had to get,
1422
00:46:31,691 –> 00:46:34,331
what a hologram.
1423
00:46:34,331 –> 00:46:36,251
You know what I mean?
1424
00:46:37,691 –> 00:46:39,611
So the point is,
1425
00:46:40,331 –> 00:46:41,051
If you like her,
1426
00:46:41,051 –> 00:46:41,691
great.
1427
00:46:42,331 –> 00:46:43,051
Vote for her.
1428
00:46:43,051 –> 00:46:43,931
I respect you.
1429
00:46:44,811 –> 00:46:47,931
But the media should do a little bit better and let
1430
00:46:47,931 –> 00:46:49,931
you know who these people are.
1431
00:46:50,131 –> 00:46:52,491
And do not hate.
1432
00:46:54,011 –> 00:46:54,811
Do not hate.
1433
00:46:55,291 –> 00:46:56,731
This will never get out of this.
1434
00:46:57,931 –> 00:46:59,291
And I’ll get a call Chris later.
1435
00:46:59,291 –> 00:46:59,931
Hope he’s okay.
1436
00:47:00,331 –> 00:47:01,291
It’s good to hear from Karen.
1437
00:47:01,291 –> 00:47:01,531
Yeah.
1438
00:47:02,091 –> 00:47:02,491
Okay.
1439
00:47:02,971 –> 00:47:03,611
Thank you all.
1440
00:47:04,491 –> 00:47:05,251
God bless America.
