No BS Newshour Episode #368
You Deserve Better
We Have the Politicians and Criminals Running Scared
A Nessel case, a Benson audit, and a Lank Bank embarrassment are just some of the fruits of our labors.
We are at the halfway point of the year.
As a matter of housekeeping, dear viewer, here are updates on some exclusive stories this year.
Who will bring them to justice?
Rep. Jay DeBoyer, chair of the house oversight committee.
(9:21) Whitmer’s nursing home response is finally under investigation.
(11:41) Dana Nessel- Fair and equal fraud.
(16:53) Will Jocelyn Benson refer Jocelyn Benson for prosecution?
(22:53) Who’s really running Lansing?
(28:50) The media arrives at the Mackinaw Policy Conference.
(41:26) Detroit’s Next Mayor debate recap.
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Transcript:
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You know you need a no smoking sign behind your desk
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when you’re lighting up.
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Yeah, everybody’s a comedian.
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We just need a no smoking sign.
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You get elected to the legislation and all of a sudden
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everybody’s a fucking comedian.
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You think this is a joke?
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Okay.
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No, I think it’s the fun.
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It’s the fun part.
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I like watching you smoke a cigarette with the no smoking
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sign.
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That’s how I feel about it.
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I bet you do.
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I got to get a fan so I can smoke smoke.
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Tell me that’s rolling,
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Mark.
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Oh my God.
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Now you’re in for it,
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Jay.
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I know you got to get out of here and waste more of
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our money.
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No, no.
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All right.
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All right.
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So we’re rolling.
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Hey, Ken, what the fuck are you emailing me this video
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at 921 in the evening?
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This is
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the year in review,
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because we only do our own work here.
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So like what’s been going on with our exclusive and
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viral journalism?
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And what we decided to do was do AI Charlie.
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So that would be C-H-A-R-L-I-E.
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So I wrote the words,
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Ken put my 15 minutes of the show into the computer.
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AI got my rhythm,
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then Ken read the words and then AI spit it out.
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I haven’t seen it.
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But I think,
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Ken, when we’re doing something as experimental as
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this, you’re not just like,
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what would you do?
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You were editing a shitty other guy’s podcast,
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weren’t you?
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That’s what you were doing.
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We’re AI-ing me now.
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Scary.
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And he’s emailing at 921 in the evening.
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I’m already sleeping.
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Let’s see about this.
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Okay, it’s full disclosure.
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This is me,
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but not me.
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Okay, and I’m not guilty of anything anymore.
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It’s all a deep fake.
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Wasn’t me.
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Wasn’t me.
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I didn’t do that.
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That was a deep fake.
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Roll it.
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And now an enjoyer news update with Charlie LeDon.
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Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is frying under
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a DOJ microscope over his handling of the nursing
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homes.
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Meanwhile,
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Whitler hasn’t even been put under oath.
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What does she know?
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It’ll cost $3,147.80 to find out.
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Signature.
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There’s my signature.
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Dana Nestle hounding One Finger Freddie and her political
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enemies for campaign finance fraud.
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But when is she going to investigate her wife?
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Accused of doing the very same thing.
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What are the five gross points cities?
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Well, look,
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I’m not here to answer a quiz.
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Now to Sri Kanedar,
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the Michigan congressman who doesn’t even know who
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he represents.
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His fellow Dems have told him to F off with his impeachment
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resolution against Trump,
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so the effort is all but dead,
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just like his beagles.
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We will come for you.
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Jocelyn Benson is now the subject of a federal investigation
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for issuing bogus,
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real IDs.
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The Dearborn terror suspect has been ordered to be
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deported.
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He appeals on humanitarian grounds.
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They have literally taken my home.
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Eastside Mayor Charles Brooks defeats downtown Mayor
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Mike Duggan and has his deed returned.
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Downtown Mayor Mike Duggan runs for governor as fraud
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allegations and financial troubles plague the city.
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Stay tuned,
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Michigan.
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Much more to come.
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I like that.
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That was good.
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Roll the intro,
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Mark.
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Show killer.
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Live from downtown Detroit,
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it’s the No Bullshit News Hour with my main man,
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Charlie Ladell.
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And Karen Dumas.
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Still still breaking up.
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Dull more bullshit.
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Dull more bullshit.
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I’m Grace Karos,
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and I’m third generation of American Coney Island.
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People say Detroit’s A comeback city.
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I say, where have you been?
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We’ve been here for over 100 years.
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My family’s been here on the same corner,
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serving our famous proprietary American Coney Island
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hot sauce.
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So like always,
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we’re keeping things fresh,
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updated, and new.
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We’d love to have you come downtown and visit us,
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but if you can’t,
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you can always go to americanconeyisland.com,
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order a Coney kit,
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get it delivered fresh right to your door.
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Well, you know,
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when it rains,
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the power goes out.
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And when the power goes out,
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the internet goes out.
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When the internet goes out,
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I call my friend Matt and Bernie at XG Service Group.
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Look at Bernie here on his hands and knees,
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giving it everything he’s got.
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Look at that man crack.
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So busy.
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He forgot to wear a belt.
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There’s Matt right there getting the board together.
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That’s 734-245-4100.
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If you need Matt and Bernie to come take care of your
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your security cameras,
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off-campus access control,
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Wi-Fi and cameras for homes and business,
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they’ll design it for you.
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You got restaurants,
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they do drive-through systems,
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railroad cameras for public safety.
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Call XG Services at 734-245-4100.
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I really think I am getting better looking with age.
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I just think that you have the advantage of the perfect
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lighting and the whole 9 yards.
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And I look back,
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I’m like,
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why do I look like that and Charlie looks like that?
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I, you know.
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Representative Jay DeBoyer from St.
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Clair County.
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St.
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Clair County,
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McComb and St.
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Clair.
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I represent each both counties.
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Right up there.
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He is
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baller.
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You know who this guy is?
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He’s the head of the oversight committee.
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So what’s the guy in DC?
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James Comer?
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Comer, yeah.
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So you’re the Michigan James Comer?
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I suppose.
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Well, give me some Bonhomie.
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Give me give me a funny line.
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Oh gosh, you know,
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I mean what I’ve been what people have said to me
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is if you do your job right,
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you’ll be the most feared man in Lansing.
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And I said,
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well, I don’t not looking to be feared.
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I’m just looking for the state to right run right.
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Well, look here,
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dude.
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All right.
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Just putting you on the boiler now.
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What’s up?
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What’s what?
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Where’s the justice?
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Are you OK?
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Number one,
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Gretchen Whitmer nursing homes.
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Cuomo has got a federal investigation,
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not for killing the people,
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but for lying about killing the people.
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What’s Whitmer?
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Get the skate off into the sunset?
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Are you going to get us some justice?
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Oh, no.
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Yeah, we’re looking into it for sure.
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What do you mean?
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Give us a little bit.
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She listens.
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Yeah, that’s great.
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And she should because.
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Well, yeah,
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right.
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There’s no reaction or behavior change.
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But the reality is for the first time in a long time,
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there’s an oversight committee that is a legitimate
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oversight committee.
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And things like the nursing home deaths,
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it’s probably the number one e-mail and phone call
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we get, believe it or not.
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Because so many people lost loved ones during that
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period.
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And, you know,
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hey, I get it early on,
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people were scared.
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They didn’t know what to expect initially,
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right?
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But I’m just a lumber salesman,
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right?
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I don’t know the first thing about it.
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And I could tell you about 60 days in that if you were
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old and sick or overweight or had preconditions,
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COVID was going to be dangerous.
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But after that,
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no, you’re going to be sick for a few days and you’re
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going to be just fine.
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But they just ran it out and ran it out and ran it
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out and ran it out and then moved people with COVID
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into nursing homes.
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So, you know,
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isn’t that crazy?
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Could you have made a worse decision?
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It’s like,
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yeah, it’s like I’ve never been in a prairie fire,
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but I know not to throw hay on it.
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Very good.
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Or gasoline.
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Very good.
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Or lumber.
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Right.
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Correct.
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Or lumber.
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So the short answer to your question is yes,
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we’re looking at it.
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And I would say that you’re going to see,
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you’re going to see discussion,
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you’re going to see requests,
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you’re going to see,
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you know, hey,
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would you like to come and talk to us?
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Would you send somebody from your health department?
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I would like to know how much the health director got
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paid that resigned.
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And why he resigned.
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And why he resigned.
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What was that?
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Robert Gordon?
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Yeah, I think that’s right.
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You know, he ended up being the Assistant Secretary
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of Health and Human Services in DC.
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Does that tell you how awful government is?
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Sick.
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Okay, here’s my number.
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You need any help on that?
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Here’s where I would point you,
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sir.
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That’s my number.
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You can just use that anytime you want.
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One.
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Cuomo, okay,
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so we shut down society.
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Kids don’t go to school.
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You don’t go to the lumberyard because you might pick
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up COVID and have to lay down for a few days,
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but grandma can get it and die.
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And so, okay,
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I get it.
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But part 2 of that was,
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let’s put grandma in the nursing home of grandpa.
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It’s like fucking retarded,
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right?
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Cuomo got busted.
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He was keeping track and wasn’t keeping track and he
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got caught.
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So for 40 days he did this.
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New Jersey did this,
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Pennsylvania did this,
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Harry Balls over there in Minnesota did this,
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and Gavin Newscomb did this.
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They did it and they lied.
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Cuomo quit after 40 days.
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Whitmer did it through the whole fucking pandemic and
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never counted.
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So what I will be looking for are those communications,
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because I know they’re there because I have some of
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them.
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You knew you weren’t counting and you knew they were
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dying and you knew you were lying about the numbers
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and you kept doing it.
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But what’s what’s the implication of an investigation
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at this point?
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I mean, she’s,
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you know,
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finishing up her last term.
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Yeah.
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What what good will it do?
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Well, I guess if you’re only focused on Gretchen Whitmer,
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you’re right.
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There could be a little bit that that question holds
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some value.
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But the reality is,
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is as we all know,
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if we pay attention,
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Government’s going to continue and we’re going to have
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other catastrophes that we face in the future.
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So we need to understand our failures during that period.
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And Gretchen Whitmer or,
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you know,
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the man on the moon,
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it doesn’t matter.
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We need to understand what was done.
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By the way,
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I want to know what kind of political motivation was
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going on here because the truth is she probably wants,
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she wants to run for president,
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right?
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Maybe the local little league,
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I don’t know.
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But she wants to.
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She wants to.
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And so.
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Wait, she was a grandma killer and now she’s going
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to be a baby killer?
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Is that what you’re telling me?
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Potentially,
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I suppose.
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Not having it.
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You know, so it’s it’s.
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But I interrupted,
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go ahead.
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No, just going forward,
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we need to understand the decisions that were made,
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you know,
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and the people back home say to me all the time,
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when are you going to do something to make government
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operate like it’s supposed to in a better banner?
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So if we don’t look
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retrospectively at our behaviors and where we failed
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and implement policies that prevent that failure in
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the future?
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Who are we kidding?
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We’re just,
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it’s just wash and repeat and keep doing the same
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thing over and over again.
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No way.
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Not while I’m there.
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But isn’t that where leadership matters?
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I mean, in terms of decisions that are made,
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you know,
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and again,
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like you said,
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it was a pandemic.
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Nobody knew what to do.
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Everybody was afraid.
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But then kind of common sense and some leadership
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abilities or acumen make a difference.
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Again, cross-contamination is a very basic thing.
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If you’re cooking raw meat,
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you wash your hands.
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I mean, things like that.
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So I’m not so sure policy could supersede just common
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sense.
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Well, no, I agree with that.
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Common sense is the one thing that we’re lacking most
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in our society currently because we’ve created a nanny
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state that protects everybody from everything,
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but at the end of the day,
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actually doesn’t protect anybody from anything.
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Then why do they call it common?
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Sense?
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Well, it used to be.
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You used to have to have it to actually survive.
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To actually survive.
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You don’t have to have it.
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Maybe I was younger and I was naive,
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but I thought you actually had to have it to govern.
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I’d be a good tenant,
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I would say,
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for sure.
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It’s a bad type.
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Okay, #2 on the rundown.
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Hit me.
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Hit me again.
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Now listen real close,
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Dana.
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Jada Boyer,
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Chairman of the Oversight Committee in Lansing.
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Couple things going on with her.
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She charges her political enemies with campaign finance
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fraud, and yet her wife and her campaign was referred
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to Dana, and the fraud is alleged to be even greater.
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Are you looking into that one?
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Yes.
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Breaking news.
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Hit me.
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Yeah.
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Hold on.
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Why do you do this to me?
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Breaking news.
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He’s tired from the debate.
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We got breaking news.
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Hit me, Jay.
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Yep.
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So the way I understand it,
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there’s a referral laying on Dana Nessel’s desk in
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regard to what was the,
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what was the organization?
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Fair and Equal Michigan with regard to the campaign
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finance things,
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also some signature gathering stuff that,
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wow, ironically mirrors one that she’s actually prosecuting
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right now.
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But it’s been laying on her desk
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three years,
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maybe something like that.
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Right.
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And nothing’s going on.
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And what you’re going to see out of her office on a
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regular basis is a very,
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very, well,
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lack of consistency,
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I guess, right?
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So, you know,
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if the one she’s prosecuting is guilty,
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then so be it.
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I mean, that’s no big deal.
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But if you’re going to selectively prosecute,
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Yeah, that’s a big problem.
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You know, and not to get off topic,
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but you just saw that she came out with an opinion
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of the Secretary of State,
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also was in violation of campaign finance.
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But in her letter,
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if you haven’t read it yet,
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it’d be worthwhile to read it.
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In her letter where they’re summarizing it,
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they say at the end that,
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you know,
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essentially the legislature would have to act to change
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the law in order for Dana Nessel to prosecute this.
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That’s actually not true.
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If you look at the statute that she’s operating under,
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you read subsection 17,
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it says it’s up to the Secretary of State’s office
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to refer it to the…
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Attorney General’s office for prosecution.
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So if Jocelyn Benson has one ounce of ethics and credibility,
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one ounce of honesty in her,
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she will refer that back to the Attorney General’s
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office.
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God, that’s a good,
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I can write that down.
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Okay, hold on.
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Okay, and what about…
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Tracy Cornack,
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the lawyer,
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friend of Nessel,
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friend of Whitmer,
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state treasurer for the Michigan Democratic Party,
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and Nessel getting in the way of a criminal investigation
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of her trying to allegedly bilk an elderly person.
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So we’re putting those pieces together right now.
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You’re busy.
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This is a real job,
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believe it or not.
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Lay it out for us,
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though, because I’m leaving it.
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We’re putting those pieces together right now.
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And the way I understand it,
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And again,
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trying to gather information,
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you’re trying to vet what’s accurate,
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what isn’t accurate,
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where the truth resides,
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right?
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The way I understand it right now,
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essentially,
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there was a shell game that went on with an elderly
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individual that there was some billing to health insurance
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on.
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And the person that was kind of steering this shell
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game, this is again,
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how I understand it.
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If I’m wrong,
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I’d love to hear from the people involved to tell
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me that I’m wrong.
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Maybe they’d come in and testify under oath.
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that the money was supposedly to pay her daughter for
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nursing work that she did for this elderly individual.
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And then they billed the insurance company,
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the insurance company claimed no way,
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and money was removed from the lady’s account.
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So we’re putting all the pieces together.
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Yeah, and that’s the chair of the Democratic Party.
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So one of the things you’re going to see that’s going
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on in Lansing,
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and this was eye-opening for me,
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I’ve only been there about 2 1/2 years,
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is
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that the powers that be see this giant opportunity
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over there with tax dollars and protectionism,
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and they use those things to further their own financial
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benefit.
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And that’s pretty disappointing.
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And, you know,
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I’m not making a direct allegation in this topic.
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I’m just saying that you don’t get away with this if
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you’re the average Joe.
529
00:16:11,380 –> 00:16:15,460
And so that is lying on the table with Dana Nestle
530
00:16:15,580 –> 00:16:16,340
as well.
531
00:16:16,340 –> 00:16:19,660
How does this play out?
532
00:16:19,940 –> 00:16:23,860
Well, do you subpoena them to come give testimony?
533
00:16:23,980 –> 00:16:25,300
It could end up at that point.
534
00:16:25,460 –> 00:16:26,420
Like I’ve always said,
535
00:16:26,460 –> 00:16:26,860
and you know,
536
00:16:26,860 –> 00:16:28,260
when we started this oversight committee,
537
00:16:28,260 –> 00:16:28,900
for what it’s worth,
538
00:16:30,180 –> 00:16:31,980
the first words out of their mouths were,
539
00:16:31,980 –> 00:16:33,980
this is going to be a weaponization and you’re going
540
00:16:33,980 –> 00:16:35,620
to use it and you’re going to use it.
541
00:16:35,620 –> 00:16:36,660
It’s going to be political.
542
00:16:37,060 –> 00:16:38,340
And so, you know,
543
00:16:38,340 –> 00:16:39,700
if I can segue just for a second,
544
00:16:40,740 –> 00:16:43,140
The first subpoena we issue is for training materials
545
00:16:43,140 –> 00:16:44,900
from the Secretary of State on how they’re training
546
00:16:44,900 –> 00:16:46,660
local clerks and administering elections.
547
00:16:46,700 –> 00:16:47,500
And you used to be a clerk,
548
00:16:47,500 –> 00:16:47,900
did you not?
549
00:16:47,940 –> 00:16:48,980
I did for 12 years.
550
00:16:50,900 –> 00:16:52,740
And instead of complying,
551
00:16:53,300 –> 00:16:54,420
Jocelyn Bunson says,
552
00:16:55,020 –> 00:16:56,020
I’ll see you in court.
553
00:16:57,140 –> 00:16:58,260
Pretty transparent in my opinion.
554
00:16:58,260 –> 00:17:00,940
Okay, you’re a former city clerk or county clerk?
555
00:17:00,940 –> 00:17:01,540
County clerk.
556
00:17:01,580 –> 00:17:03,620
County clerk in charge of elections.
557
00:17:04,420 –> 00:17:05,900
You just want the training materials.
558
00:17:05,940 –> 00:17:07,540
This isn’t the code of the bomb.
559
00:17:07,540 –> 00:17:08,020
Not at all.
560
00:17:08,100 –> 00:17:08,740
This should be,
561
00:17:08,740 –> 00:17:09,620
I should be able to Google it.
562
00:17:09,860 –> 00:17:10,260
Correct.
563
00:17:10,860 –> 00:17:11,900
And I’ll see you in court.
564
00:17:11,940 –> 00:17:13,980
Yeah, it’s protected behind a thing called e-learning,
565
00:17:13,980 –> 00:17:14,420
which you get.
566
00:17:14,420 –> 00:17:14,980
What an asshole.
567
00:17:15,620 –> 00:17:16,940
Yeah, login and password to get into.
568
00:17:16,940 –> 00:17:18,500
Somebody has to say it.
569
00:17:18,820 –> 00:17:19,820
What an asshole,
570
00:17:19,820 –> 00:17:20,500
Jocelyn.
571
00:17:20,900 –> 00:17:21,860
What an asshole.
572
00:17:22,060 –> 00:17:24,060
But this is an individual who wants to be governor
573
00:17:24,060 –> 00:17:24,900
of the state of Michigan.
574
00:17:25,140 –> 00:17:27,220
And I’m calling her an asshole.
575
00:17:28,740 –> 00:17:30,820
We’re literally asking for training materials.
576
00:17:30,820 –> 00:17:31,460
You know what they say,
577
00:17:31,540 –> 00:17:33,380
under security of elections,
578
00:17:33,380 –> 00:17:36,820
we are going to not provide certain information because
579
00:17:36,820 –> 00:17:38,740
it could compromise the integrity of the elections.
580
00:17:39,100 –> 00:17:44,180
And the interesting thing on that is that the legislature
581
00:17:44,180 –> 00:17:45,700
is who makes those laws.
582
00:17:46,100 –> 00:17:47,620
We are the legislature.
583
00:17:47,780 –> 00:17:49,780
Myself and Representative Rochelle Smith,
584
00:17:50,020 –> 00:17:50,940
who’s the chair of elections,
585
00:17:50,940 –> 00:17:52,340
are the ones that have made this request.
586
00:17:52,820 –> 00:17:54,820
And it’s basically sue me to get them,
587
00:17:54,980 –> 00:17:55,300
right?
588
00:17:55,620 –> 00:17:56,180
The truth is,
589
00:17:56,180 –> 00:17:58,340
is what they want to do is they want to try to defeat
590
00:17:58,340 –> 00:18:00,820
the subpoena process is what they want to try to do.
591
00:18:00,820 –> 00:18:03,060
Because if they can defeat the subpoena process,
592
00:18:03,380 –> 00:18:04,900
now it protects Dana Nessel,
593
00:18:04,900 –> 00:18:07,100
it protects Gretchen Whitmer,
594
00:18:07,100 –> 00:18:10,420
it protects department heads of all the various departments.
595
00:18:11,060 –> 00:18:13,980
from any scrutiny from their legislature.
596
00:18:13,980 –> 00:18:16,500
And they get to go autonomously off into the sunset,
597
00:18:16,740 –> 00:18:17,500
do whatever they want,
598
00:18:17,500 –> 00:18:19,220
and have nobody looking into it.
599
00:18:19,220 –> 00:18:20,060
And I’m going to tell you right now,
600
00:18:20,060 –> 00:18:21,780
it doesn’t matter if you’re a Republican or a Democrat.
601
00:18:21,780 –> 00:18:22,740
It does not matter.
602
00:18:23,220 –> 00:18:26,260
The last thing you want is an executive branch that
603
00:18:26,260 –> 00:18:28,660
has free reign to do whatever they want with no one
604
00:18:28,740 –> 00:18:29,540
looking at them.
605
00:18:30,900 –> 00:18:31,780
That’s a problem.
606
00:18:32,420 –> 00:18:34,180
But that’s what they’re trying to create in Lansing
607
00:18:34,180 –> 00:18:34,420
right now.
608
00:18:34,580 –> 00:18:35,420
That’s what we’ve had for.
609
00:18:35,420 –> 00:18:36,820
I was going to say that’s what they’ve created.
610
00:18:36,820 –> 00:18:39,380
That’s what we’ve lived under under this administration.
611
00:18:39,380 –> 00:18:40,020
I moved back.
612
00:18:40,020 –> 00:18:45,100
Granholm was in office and Snyder and Whitmer and that’s
613
00:18:45,100 –> 00:18:45,860
how it works.
614
00:18:46,420 –> 00:18:47,060
Like again,
615
00:18:48,340 –> 00:18:52,740
maybe you can save me $3,147.80 because I want to
616
00:18:54,100 –> 00:18:54,900
know, sir,
617
00:18:54,900 –> 00:18:57,300
if you could put this in your bit,
618
00:18:57,700 –> 00:18:58,540
nursing home stuff.
619
00:19:01,060 –> 00:19:05,700
Cuomo and Whitmer and some other governors got a request
620
00:19:05,700 –> 00:19:08,060
from the Department of Justice in 2020,
621
00:19:08,060 –> 00:19:10,980
we need your nursing home data because we’re looking
622
00:19:10,980 –> 00:19:13,060
into the civil rights of these elderly people.
623
00:19:15,060 –> 00:19:16,020
I simply asked,
624
00:19:16,660 –> 00:19:17,460
what did you give them?
625
00:19:18,980 –> 00:19:20,580
How seriously did you take this?
626
00:19:21,380 –> 00:19:22,020
And it comes back,
627
00:19:22,180 –> 00:19:23,660
you can’t FOIA the governor,
628
00:19:23,660 –> 00:19:23,860
right?
629
00:19:23,900 –> 00:19:24,980
She’s exempt.
630
00:19:25,540 –> 00:19:28,260
So I FOIA Dana Nestle because you’re the lawyer for
631
00:19:28,260 –> 00:19:28,900
the state.
632
00:19:30,100 –> 00:19:30,140
$3,147.80.
633
00:19:32,460 –> 00:19:35,940
Either I hook up a GoFundMe or you do it for me.
634
00:19:36,100 –> 00:19:37,060
Us, all of us.
635
00:19:37,700 –> 00:19:38,340
Would you do that?
636
00:19:39,220 –> 00:19:39,660
Absolutely.
637
00:19:39,660 –> 00:19:40,580
We will get to it for sure.
638
00:19:40,660 –> 00:19:43,660
I will e-mail you a copy of the FOIA request.
639
00:19:43,700 –> 00:19:45,740
Maybe you’d want to come and testify in oversight committee
640
00:19:45,780 –> 00:19:46,500
as to what you know.
641
00:19:46,740 –> 00:19:47,540
I did.
642
00:19:48,500 –> 00:19:49,540
You want elections?
643
00:19:50,020 –> 00:19:52,820
I process more absentee ballots than anybody in 2020
644
00:19:53,380 –> 00:19:54,100
at Cobo Hall.
645
00:19:54,500 –> 00:19:56,020
You want to talk about the nursing homes?
646
00:19:56,180 –> 00:19:57,060
I donated.
647
00:19:57,780 –> 00:19:58,220
My life.
648
00:20:03,460 –> 00:20:04,900
That’s Clarence Villet.
649
00:20:04,900 –> 00:20:07,220
He’s a Korea War vet.
650
00:20:07,780 –> 00:20:08,140
My father.
651
00:20:08,340 –> 00:20:08,900
They dragged,
652
00:20:08,980 –> 00:20:10,140
okay, this is your dad,
653
00:20:10,140 –> 00:20:10,500
dude.
654
00:20:10,740 –> 00:20:14,340
They dragged him around like a bag of fucking laundry.
655
00:20:14,580 –> 00:20:15,460
Eight times.
656
00:20:16,900 –> 00:20:17,220
Right?
657
00:20:17,540 –> 00:20:18,420
Co-mingled him.
658
00:20:19,300 –> 00:20:20,580
And then never counted him.
659
00:20:22,580 –> 00:20:23,300
This is.
660
00:20:24,340 –> 00:20:25,220
Brenda Remsen,
661
00:20:25,380 –> 00:20:26,300
just a nice old lady.
662
00:20:26,300 –> 00:20:27,140
I don’t know much about it,
663
00:20:27,140 –> 00:20:29,140
but I keep these two out of the many.
664
00:20:29,460 –> 00:20:30,900
These cost me 40 a pop.
665
00:20:31,460 –> 00:20:32,260
40 a pop.
666
00:20:32,420 –> 00:20:33,220
They’re hiding.
667
00:20:33,940 –> 00:20:34,460
Justice.
668
00:20:34,460 –> 00:20:34,580
Yep.
669
00:20:37,140 –> 00:20:39,300
Well, what about the commitment to transparency that
670
00:20:39,300 –> 00:20:39,580
Whitmer?
671
00:20:39,580 –> 00:20:40,180
Remember, you know,
672
00:20:40,180 –> 00:20:40,580
early on,
673
00:20:40,580 –> 00:20:40,980
just like,
674
00:20:40,980 –> 00:20:41,180
you know,
675
00:20:41,180 –> 00:20:43,060
I want this to be a transparent administration.
676
00:20:43,380 –> 00:20:43,780
Whitmer.
677
00:20:43,820 –> 00:20:44,740
What an asshole.
678
00:20:44,740 –> 00:20:45,460
But I’m saying,
679
00:20:45,860 –> 00:20:47,780
so everybody just forgets about that,
680
00:20:47,780 –> 00:20:50,740
or she’s able to circumvent or just ignore what she
681
00:20:50,740 –> 00:20:51,220
said.
682
00:20:51,380 –> 00:20:53,300
So the accountability has never,
683
00:20:53,460 –> 00:20:55,380
it’s not there on any level.
684
00:20:55,540 –> 00:20:56,900
No, you know,
685
00:20:57,460 –> 00:20:58,020
we live in a,
686
00:20:58,580 –> 00:20:58,900
you know,
687
00:20:58,900 –> 00:21:00,100
hey, you can make a living on this,
688
00:21:00,100 –> 00:21:01,060
you may make a living on this,
689
00:21:01,060 –> 00:21:02,980
but we live in a world of 15 second soundbites.
690
00:21:03,780 –> 00:21:04,100
And
691
00:21:04,740 –> 00:21:06,500
I got to write that sound bite down.
692
00:21:07,580 –> 00:21:08,220
And the reality is,
693
00:21:08,220 –> 00:21:10,380
is that your politicians have recognized that.
694
00:21:10,860 –> 00:21:13,700
And so they just make these little clips and they say
695
00:21:13,700 –> 00:21:14,500
what they know that,
696
00:21:14,740 –> 00:21:14,980
you know,
697
00:21:14,980 –> 00:21:18,180
they poll test it and they say what the politicians
698
00:21:18,300 –> 00:21:20,580
or what the voters want to hear.
699
00:21:20,740 –> 00:21:22,460
And then they just go and do whatever they want.
700
00:21:22,460 –> 00:21:24,340
And that’s that’s why this accountability.
701
00:21:24,460 –> 00:21:24,820
And again,
702
00:21:24,820 –> 00:21:26,660
this is not a Republican Democrat thing.
703
00:21:26,980 –> 00:21:28,980
This is a this is a people thing.
704
00:21:29,060 –> 00:21:29,940
This is a citizen.
705
00:21:29,940 –> 00:21:31,060
This is a taxpayer thing.
706
00:21:33,460 –> 00:21:34,660
fix the damn roads.
707
00:21:34,900 –> 00:21:35,780
Here we are,
708
00:21:35,940 –> 00:21:37,340
6 plus years into it.
709
00:21:37,340 –> 00:21:38,260
And no roads.
710
00:21:38,580 –> 00:21:39,620
No roads fixed.
711
00:21:39,620 –> 00:21:40,260
And by the way,
712
00:21:40,260 –> 00:21:41,860
over $3 billion in bond debt.
713
00:21:42,820 –> 00:21:43,460
Yeah, they did that.
714
00:21:43,460 –> 00:21:43,940
Remember?
715
00:21:45,140 –> 00:21:45,780
Remember they borrowed,
716
00:21:45,780 –> 00:21:46,300
first of all,
717
00:21:46,300 –> 00:21:47,780
we’re going to have a 50 cent tax.
718
00:21:47,780 –> 00:21:48,100
Right.
719
00:21:48,100 –> 00:21:49,140
Then we’re going to borrow it.
720
00:21:49,300 –> 00:21:51,940
Then I did fix the roads and that was the Sleepy Joe’s
721
00:21:51,940 –> 00:21:52,260
money.
722
00:21:52,580 –> 00:21:54,940
And they didn’t fix the roads and now all of a sudden
723
00:21:54,940 –> 00:21:55,300
every Rd.
724
00:21:55,380 –> 00:21:56,100
is shut down.
725
00:21:56,260 –> 00:21:57,220
Hey, ridiculous.
726
00:21:57,220 –> 00:21:58,140
No, absolutely correct.
727
00:21:58,140 –> 00:21:58,780
And I’m going to tell you,
728
00:21:58,780 –> 00:21:59,620
and here’s the interesting thing.
729
00:21:59,620 –> 00:22:00,180
So, you know,
730
00:22:00,180 –> 00:22:02,100
to just delve into my politics a little bit.
731
00:22:02,900 –> 00:22:05,620
We actually have a plan to put over $3 billion into
732
00:22:05,620 –> 00:22:08,820
roads in the state of Michigan without raising taxes.
733
00:22:09,100 –> 00:22:09,820
And it’s just sitting there.
734
00:22:09,820 –> 00:22:10,660
And it’s just sitting there.
735
00:22:11,060 –> 00:22:13,220
Because they won’t move a muscle if they don’t get
736
00:22:13,220 –> 00:22:14,820
to take more of your tax dollars.
737
00:22:15,660 –> 00:22:16,660
And meanwhile,
738
00:22:16,660 –> 00:22:17,460
the roads aren’t fixed.
739
00:22:17,500 –> 00:22:18,780
And Midland doesn’t have a senator.
740
00:22:18,780 –> 00:22:20,220
And Midland does not have a senator.
741
00:22:20,820 –> 00:22:23,300
Whitmer, a pro-democracy gritch,
742
00:22:23,740 –> 00:22:24,260
all about,
743
00:22:24,260 –> 00:22:24,660
you know.
744
00:22:25,540 –> 00:22:30,580
I think they’re ready.
745
00:22:31,060 –> 00:22:32,100
And people were like,
746
00:22:32,100 –> 00:22:33,140
OK, we’ve been ready.
747
00:22:33,140 –> 00:22:35,300
Like what has been the holdup for?
748
00:22:35,300 –> 00:22:37,340
You want to talk about a civil rights violation?
749
00:22:37,740 –> 00:22:38,500
I mean, he said,
750
00:22:38,500 –> 00:22:39,260
I think we’re ready.
751
00:22:39,300 –> 00:22:39,460
Yeah.
752
00:22:39,740 –> 00:22:41,220
In terms of filling that seat.
753
00:22:41,380 –> 00:22:41,620
Yeah.
754
00:22:41,780 –> 00:22:43,300
He said, I think we’re ready.
755
00:22:43,300 –> 00:22:43,500
Yep.
756
00:22:44,980 –> 00:22:46,180
What an asshole.
757
00:22:47,140 –> 00:22:48,100
Is that your word of the day,
758
00:22:48,100 –> 00:22:48,420
Charlie?
759
00:22:48,420 –> 00:22:48,820
It is.
760
00:22:48,820 –> 00:22:49,780
That’s going to be the title.
761
00:22:49,780 –> 00:22:50,900
What an asshole.
762
00:22:51,060 –> 00:22:52,220
I can’t believe this.
763
00:22:52,420 –> 00:22:53,140
OK, so you’re.
764
00:22:54,340 –> 00:22:55,980
Not everybody in politics is evil.
765
00:22:55,980 –> 00:22:57,060
Who’s running this?
766
00:22:57,060 –> 00:22:57,500
It’s, you know,
767
00:22:57,500 –> 00:22:58,220
it’s not Whitmer.
768
00:22:58,220 –> 00:22:59,060
She’s a figurehead.
769
00:22:59,140 –> 00:23:00,820
Who runs things?
770
00:23:01,100 –> 00:23:01,780
Yeah, I mean,
771
00:23:01,860 –> 00:23:02,180
you know,
772
00:23:02,180 –> 00:23:02,740
what I would,
773
00:23:02,820 –> 00:23:04,260
the best way I would describe it is,
774
00:23:04,500 –> 00:23:04,740
you know,
775
00:23:04,740 –> 00:23:06,180
I hear it back home a lot from people.
776
00:23:06,180 –> 00:23:07,540
I think I mentioned this to you before that,
777
00:23:07,860 –> 00:23:08,180
you know,
778
00:23:08,180 –> 00:23:09,100
they’re all corrupt.
779
00:23:09,100 –> 00:23:10,620
They’re all on the take.
780
00:23:10,620 –> 00:23:11,860
They’re all bought and paid for.
781
00:23:12,100 –> 00:23:13,380
That’s actually not true.
782
00:23:13,380 –> 00:23:14,980
There’s a lot of very committed,
783
00:23:14,980 –> 00:23:16,180
good people in Lansing.
784
00:23:16,500 –> 00:23:17,300
The problem is,
785
00:23:17,300 –> 00:23:18,100
is that once you,
786
00:23:18,420 –> 00:23:19,860
some of the people at the top,
787
00:23:19,860 –> 00:23:21,540
and I don’t even necessarily mean electeds,
788
00:23:21,540 –> 00:23:22,660
I mean departments,
789
00:23:23,860 –> 00:23:24,980
fundraisers,
790
00:23:24,980 –> 00:23:26,900
people who write the big checks,
791
00:23:26,900 –> 00:23:27,780
dark money,
792
00:23:28,900 –> 00:23:29,220
you know,
793
00:23:29,220 –> 00:23:31,940
those people control a lot of the narrative,
794
00:23:31,940 –> 00:23:32,260
right?
795
00:23:32,780 –> 00:23:35,620
And so when you have people like Gretchen Whitmer or
796
00:23:35,620 –> 00:23:37,940
Dana Nessel or Jocelyn Benson,
797
00:23:38,340 –> 00:23:43,540
who their real interest is to just garner power,
798
00:23:44,340 –> 00:23:46,340
they’ll do and say whatever they have to do and say
799
00:23:46,340 –> 00:23:47,380
to garner that power.
800
00:23:48,300 –> 00:23:48,860
What I say,
801
00:23:48,860 –> 00:23:51,700
I voted for Gretchen Whitmer once.
802
00:23:53,460 –> 00:23:54,420
I’d never do that again.
803
00:23:55,140 –> 00:23:55,660
He’s telling you,
804
00:23:55,660 –> 00:23:56,700
I try to have an open mind.
805
00:23:56,700 –> 00:23:57,340
What was I going to do,
806
00:23:57,340 –> 00:23:57,860
Bill Schudy?
807
00:23:58,460 –> 00:23:59,460
I mean, he’s a nice guy,
808
00:23:59,580 –> 00:24:01,620
but you guys like a cigar store Indian.
809
00:24:01,700 –> 00:24:02,900
Yeah, but you might be surprised.
810
00:24:02,900 –> 00:24:05,860
Sometimes it’s the guys that you least expect that
811
00:24:05,860 –> 00:24:07,140
can actually get the job done,
812
00:24:07,140 –> 00:24:07,380
right?
813
00:24:07,700 –> 00:24:09,700
And I think that’s what people are starting to realize,
814
00:24:09,700 –> 00:24:10,140
that, you know,
815
00:24:10,140 –> 00:24:11,780
people talk about political experience.
816
00:24:11,780 –> 00:24:13,460
That’s not necessarily experience.
817
00:24:13,460 –> 00:24:14,980
It’s just compliance.
818
00:24:14,980 –> 00:24:18,180
They’re just compliance and doing the same thing.
819
00:24:18,340 –> 00:24:21,460
We talked before we started and you were saying how
820
00:24:21,540 –> 00:24:23,140
there are good people.
821
00:24:23,420 –> 00:24:24,020
in place.
822
00:24:24,260 –> 00:24:25,300
But the process,
823
00:24:25,300 –> 00:24:25,980
in my opinion,
824
00:24:25,980 –> 00:24:27,540
is not conducive to progress.
825
00:24:27,540 –> 00:24:30,380
So people either fall in line and they become,
826
00:24:30,740 –> 00:24:31,140
you know,
827
00:24:31,140 –> 00:24:33,060
corrupt, for lack of a better word,
828
00:24:33,060 –> 00:24:34,020
like everybody else,
829
00:24:34,420 –> 00:24:36,020
or they just kind of get out of it.
830
00:24:36,580 –> 00:24:38,220
You know, especially in the House.
831
00:24:38,220 –> 00:24:39,980
So I can’t speak for the Senate,
832
00:24:39,980 –> 00:24:40,660
for the House.
833
00:24:42,420 –> 00:24:45,220
You come there and you don’t know anything about anything,
834
00:24:45,220 –> 00:24:47,300
although you should if you ran,
835
00:24:47,300 –> 00:24:47,700
right?
836
00:24:48,020 –> 00:24:48,740
You get there.
837
00:24:48,740 –> 00:24:51,220
So you’re being educated by individuals who have an
838
00:24:51,220 –> 00:24:53,220
interest in what they’re educating you on,
839
00:24:53,220 –> 00:24:53,460
right?
840
00:24:53,820 –> 00:24:55,820
And so the ones that come there with the least amount
841
00:24:55,820 –> 00:24:59,460
of life experience are the ones that can be the most
842
00:24:59,460 –> 00:25:00,340
easily influenced.
843
00:25:00,900 –> 00:25:03,780
I came there at 50 plus years old,
844
00:25:04,420 –> 00:25:05,380
having a business,
845
00:25:06,020 –> 00:25:07,540
being in local politics,
846
00:25:07,540 –> 00:25:08,660
having a family,
847
00:25:08,820 –> 00:25:09,940
raising children,
848
00:25:10,740 –> 00:25:11,980
with life experiences.
849
00:25:11,980 –> 00:25:17,220
So I could parse out the BS from the legitimate,
850
00:25:18,260 –> 00:25:20,580
but there’s a lot of them there that are starry-eyed.
851
00:25:21,220 –> 00:25:23,380
The term that you hear over there is first time famous,
852
00:25:23,380 –> 00:25:23,700
right?
853
00:25:23,940 –> 00:25:25,140
They’re first time famous.
854
00:25:25,420 –> 00:25:27,620
Guys, if I could just interrupt a second.
855
00:25:29,380 –> 00:25:30,340
It’s Lansing.
856
00:25:30,500 –> 00:25:30,740
What?
857
00:25:31,020 –> 00:25:31,460
What?
858
00:25:31,900 –> 00:25:33,460
This isn’t a house of cards.
859
00:25:33,780 –> 00:25:34,660
But it’s relative though,
860
00:25:34,660 –> 00:25:35,060
Charlie.
861
00:25:35,060 –> 00:25:36,140
I mean, and like you said,
862
00:25:36,260 –> 00:25:37,780
everybody and as the kids call it,
863
00:25:37,780 –> 00:25:38,660
they call it thirsty.
864
00:25:38,660 –> 00:25:40,820
You know, they’re just addicted to the cloud,
865
00:25:41,060 –> 00:25:41,860
the access,
866
00:25:41,860 –> 00:25:42,100
you know,
867
00:25:42,100 –> 00:25:43,380
people are responding to you.
868
00:25:43,380 –> 00:25:44,740
You get the cards,
869
00:25:44,740 –> 00:25:46,740
the security and the access and it’s like,
870
00:25:46,740 –> 00:25:49,500
wow, that’s the closest to celebrity that some of
871
00:25:49,500 –> 00:25:50,020
them ever gets.
872
00:25:50,020 –> 00:25:50,540
It’s the truth.
873
00:25:50,540 –> 00:25:51,460
My dad had a saying,
874
00:25:51,860 –> 00:25:52,380
rest his soul.
875
00:25:52,380 –> 00:25:53,380
He died in fall of 20.
876
00:25:54,740 –> 00:25:56,460
No, no.
877
00:25:56,660 –> 00:25:57,660
Actually, no.
878
00:25:57,940 –> 00:25:58,620
In a hospice home,
879
00:25:58,620 –> 00:25:59,220
because by the way,
880
00:25:59,220 –> 00:25:59,940
do you know when you’re,
881
00:25:59,940 –> 00:26:02,060
if you’re diagnosed with hospice during COVID,
882
00:26:02,060 –> 00:26:02,980
the family could be there,
883
00:26:03,620 –> 00:26:03,940
right?
884
00:26:04,180 –> 00:26:06,260
If you were not diagnosed with hospice,
885
00:26:06,260 –> 00:26:07,380
the family couldn’t be there.
886
00:26:07,380 –> 00:26:08,180
So, you know,
887
00:26:08,340 –> 00:26:11,340
30 of my family members being together couldn’t spread
888
00:26:11,340 –> 00:26:13,260
COVID because he had a hospice diagnosis.
889
00:26:13,540 –> 00:26:14,700
But if we’d had to go to hospital,
890
00:26:14,700 –> 00:26:17,300
we would have been able to spread it.
891
00:26:17,540 –> 00:26:17,940
Crazy.
892
00:26:17,940 –> 00:26:19,100
But my dad had a simple saying,
893
00:26:19,100 –> 00:26:20,260
and it was simply this,
894
00:26:20,260 –> 00:26:23,300
that anyone that desires power should never have it.
895
00:26:24,380 –> 00:26:26,580
And so what happens is these individuals,
896
00:26:27,060 –> 00:26:28,820
these individuals come to Lansing,
897
00:26:29,380 –> 00:26:30,020
good people,
898
00:26:30,020 –> 00:26:30,340
right?
899
00:26:30,660 –> 00:26:32,500
But they’ve never even coached a little league baseball
900
00:26:32,500 –> 00:26:32,700
team.
901
00:26:32,740 –> 00:26:33,060
They don’t,
902
00:26:33,060 –> 00:26:35,220
they’ve never had a moment of authority ever.
903
00:26:36,460 –> 00:26:38,580
And listen,
904
00:26:38,980 –> 00:26:39,700
it’s corrupting.
905
00:26:40,260 –> 00:26:41,500
To any human being,
906
00:26:41,500 –> 00:26:42,340
it can be corrupting.
907
00:26:42,340 –> 00:26:43,940
And I don’t necessarily mean that you’re breaking the
908
00:26:43,940 –> 00:26:46,500
law, but it can corrupt you as an internal,
909
00:26:46,980 –> 00:26:48,340
your moral compass.
910
00:26:48,340 –> 00:26:50,420
It can corrupt your direction that you want to head.
911
00:26:50,860 –> 00:26:51,940
And I would argue,
912
00:26:51,940 –> 00:26:53,020
and I would tell to people,
913
00:26:53,020 –> 00:26:55,540
when you’re looking at the candidate that you’re going
914
00:26:55,540 –> 00:26:56,900
to select to represent you,
915
00:26:57,940 –> 00:27:00,500
stop the personality BS,
916
00:27:00,660 –> 00:27:00,940
right?
917
00:27:01,220 –> 00:27:02,540
Stop the personality.
918
00:27:02,540 –> 00:27:03,420
I fell prey to it.
919
00:27:04,180 –> 00:27:06,900
And look at their experience,
920
00:27:07,140 –> 00:27:08,420
look at their life,
921
00:27:08,580 –> 00:27:11,060
look at mistakes they’ve made and corrections they’ve
922
00:27:11,060 –> 00:27:11,300
made.
923
00:27:11,300 –> 00:27:11,860
Because by the way,
924
00:27:11,860 –> 00:27:12,500
we’ve all made them.
925
00:27:13,220 –> 00:27:15,700
But how did you move after that mistake is humongous.
926
00:27:15,700 –> 00:27:17,100
I have not made mistakes.
927
00:27:17,100 –> 00:27:18,580
That was all AI.
928
00:27:18,980 –> 00:27:19,620
That’s true.
929
00:27:20,020 –> 00:27:20,500
That’s true.
930
00:27:20,580 –> 00:27:20,980
Good cover.
931
00:27:21,220 –> 00:27:22,580
Sorry, I got off on a little run there.
932
00:27:23,620 –> 00:27:24,580
But that is,
933
00:27:24,900 –> 00:27:26,420
and I tell people this all the time.
934
00:27:26,420 –> 00:27:28,580
I call it the McDonald’s French fry theory because
935
00:27:28,580 –> 00:27:29,300
that happens.
936
00:27:29,540 –> 00:27:31,380
If you’re the person and now you’re in charge of the
937
00:27:31,380 –> 00:27:33,300
fries, this is the first time you’ve been in,
938
00:27:33,540 –> 00:27:34,900
so I’m going to hook my friend up.
939
00:27:34,900 –> 00:27:36,020
I’m going to give you extra.
940
00:27:36,340 –> 00:27:37,220
And if I don’t like you,
941
00:27:37,220 –> 00:27:38,580
I’m going to burn them or put too much.
942
00:27:38,580 –> 00:27:40,980
It’s that it’s what you are accustomed to.
943
00:27:40,980 –> 00:27:41,980
So it’s all relative,
944
00:27:41,980 –> 00:27:44,300
whether it’s working in a fast food restaurant or
945
00:27:44,300 –> 00:27:46,540
whether you’re making decisions at the state or federal
946
00:27:46,540 –> 00:27:47,940
level, it’s all relevant.
947
00:27:47,940 –> 00:27:49,580
Kamala Harris burned people’s rice?
948
00:27:50,100 –> 00:27:51,020
Did she work at McDonald’s?
949
00:27:51,020 –> 00:27:51,700
I don’t know.
950
00:27:51,900 –> 00:27:52,500
She claimed she did,
951
00:27:52,540 –> 00:27:52,900
didn’t she?
952
00:27:53,060 –> 00:27:55,220
But I wouldn’t you remember which McDonald’s you worked
953
00:27:55,220 –> 00:27:55,300
at?
954
00:27:55,300 –> 00:27:55,860
I would think so.
955
00:27:55,940 –> 00:27:57,380
But we talked about the emotion,
956
00:27:57,380 –> 00:27:57,700
too.
957
00:27:58,420 –> 00:28:01,300
Politicians or elected officials say things to invoke
958
00:28:01,340 –> 00:28:03,380
emotion, the whole preacher mentality,
959
00:28:03,540 –> 00:28:05,860
and people respond to it without hearing what’s being
960
00:28:05,860 –> 00:28:07,140
said or what’s not being said.
961
00:28:07,180 –> 00:28:08,580
I’m right now preacher for later,
962
00:28:08,700 –> 00:28:09,740
because I’m getting a little,
963
00:28:09,740 –> 00:28:09,900
you know,
964
00:28:10,420 –> 00:28:12,900
we come back from this commercial break.
965
00:28:12,900 –> 00:28:13,300
We should
966
00:28:14,020 –> 00:28:17,660
Discuss the debate and it was a conversation.
967
00:28:17,700 –> 00:28:19,020
I don’t, yes,
968
00:28:19,020 –> 00:28:23,460
and I don’t really give a shit if his flock says I
969
00:28:23,460 –> 00:28:26,740
need to apologize because he lives near you.
970
00:28:27,780 –> 00:28:29,540
He lives way up there.
971
00:28:29,540 –> 00:28:31,780
Like, do you have hayrides where you live?
972
00:28:31,940 –> 00:28:32,860
Yeah, north of me a little bit.
973
00:28:32,980 –> 00:28:33,380
You do, but yeah,
974
00:28:33,460 –> 00:28:33,980
close enough.
975
00:28:33,980 –> 00:28:34,740
Apple cider up there.
976
00:28:34,980 –> 00:28:35,420
Apple cider.
977
00:28:35,420 –> 00:28:36,700
My northern section of my district.
978
00:28:36,700 –> 00:28:37,460
A little pumpkin patch.
979
00:28:37,780 –> 00:28:39,060
Everybody dies of old age.
980
00:28:39,140 –> 00:28:39,540
Absolutely.
981
00:28:40,020 –> 00:28:40,500
How about that?
982
00:28:41,060 –> 00:28:41,780
Hallelujah.
983
00:28:42,820 –> 00:28:44,740
Does the church own your car?
984
00:28:44,980 –> 00:28:46,340
The church does not own my car.
985
00:28:47,940 –> 00:28:48,580
Oh, by the way,
986
00:28:49,060 –> 00:28:52,980
we were just talking about the power brokers.
987
00:28:53,180 –> 00:28:56,020
And there’s only one time a year where they expose
988
00:28:56,020 –> 00:28:56,740
themselves.
989
00:28:57,060 –> 00:29:00,820
And it’s now up there at the Mackinaw Policy Conference,
990
00:29:01,060 –> 00:29:01,380
right?
991
00:29:01,460 –> 00:29:04,020
They don’t get together and they don’t even hide it.
992
00:29:04,100 –> 00:29:05,060
The media’s up there.
993
00:29:05,780 –> 00:29:07,940
sitting at the table thinking like they’re at the table,
994
00:29:07,940 –> 00:29:08,060
right?
995
00:29:08,060 –> 00:29:08,980
And they’re just punks.
996
00:29:09,220 –> 00:29:10,260
They’re just fucking punks.
997
00:29:10,420 –> 00:29:14,580
But we have a live feed from the Mackinaw Ferry.
998
00:29:14,900 –> 00:29:19,220
The media is now getting off at Mackinaw Island.
999
00:29:19,300 –> 00:29:20,340
Do we have that live feed,
1000
00:29:20,340 –> 00:29:20,660
Mark?
1001
00:29:21,100 –> 00:29:21,740
Okay, let’s play.
1002
00:29:21,740 –> 00:29:22,100
Here, pig.
1003
00:29:22,100 –> 00:29:24,140
Oh, Charlotte.
1004
00:29:24,380 –> 00:29:24,740
Here, pig.
1005
00:29:28,156 –> 00:29:28,876
Here they come.
1006
00:29:29,956 –> 00:29:30,956
Here’s the Detroit News.
1007
00:29:31,916 –> 00:29:32,876
Here comes a free press.
1008
00:29:33,916 –> 00:29:36,956
Oh, look, Fox News up on Mackinac.
1009
00:29:38,476 –> 00:29:39,756
God, that berry’s crowded.
1010
00:29:40,956 –> 00:29:42,316
But it goes back to what Jay said.
1011
00:29:42,716 –> 00:29:43,756
They want to feel included.
1012
00:29:43,756 –> 00:29:46,476
They want to feel like they have access and and and
1013
00:29:46,476 –> 00:29:49,276
so it’s the it’s the human nature element that that
1014
00:29:49,276 –> 00:29:49,956
plays into that.
1015
00:29:49,956 –> 00:29:52,796
But you probably feeding them oysters,
1016
00:29:52,796 –> 00:29:53,116
Jay.
1017
00:29:53,436 –> 00:29:56,596
I would argue the politics poolside politics and the
1018
00:29:56,596 –> 00:29:57,436
media follow,
1019
00:29:57,596 –> 00:29:57,996
you know,
1020
00:29:58,076 –> 00:29:58,956
pop culture now,
1021
00:29:59,676 –> 00:29:59,876
right?
1022
00:29:59,876 –> 00:30:01,916
They actually mirror it and they follow it.
1023
00:30:01,916 –> 00:30:02,476
Just let that roll,
1024
00:30:02,476 –> 00:30:02,876
Mark.
1025
00:30:03,076 –> 00:30:04,036
I’m just fascinated.
1026
00:30:04,036 –> 00:30:06,956
I’ve never been to the policy convention and it’s pretty
1027
00:30:06,956 –> 00:30:07,316
swanky.
1028
00:30:07,316 –> 00:30:08,236
You’ve never been,
1029
00:30:08,236 –> 00:30:08,436
Charlotte?
1030
00:30:08,436 –> 00:30:09,596
Oh, hell no.
1031
00:30:10,876 –> 00:30:14,796
My family’s from the island like 10 generations.
1032
00:30:14,796 –> 00:30:16,956
And I find this to be an abomination.
1033
00:30:17,516 –> 00:30:18,236
You know what I mean?
1034
00:30:18,236 –> 00:30:18,796
I really do.
1035
00:30:18,796 –> 00:30:20,676
Because they don’t do anything for the,
1036
00:30:20,716 –> 00:30:22,236
well, it gets money to the island.
1037
00:30:22,236 –> 00:30:23,116
Yeah, it brings money down,
1038
00:30:23,116 –> 00:30:23,436
I’m sure.
1039
00:30:23,756 –> 00:30:23,996
But.
1040
00:30:24,316 –> 00:30:26,156
It’s fun, but it’s not productive.
1041
00:30:27,196 –> 00:30:27,996
You, it’s fun.
1042
00:30:28,036 –> 00:30:28,956
You don’t even drink.
1043
00:30:28,956 –> 00:30:29,836
No, I don’t drink.
1044
00:30:29,836 –> 00:30:30,556
So what’s fun?
1045
00:30:30,556 –> 00:30:31,116
Like smelling?
1046
00:30:31,596 –> 00:30:34,076
smelling bullshit and fudge all day.
1047
00:30:34,716 –> 00:30:35,836
I’m saying it’s like,
1048
00:30:35,836 –> 00:30:37,916
it’s like a work vacation.
1049
00:30:38,236 –> 00:30:38,796
But I’ll tell you,
1050
00:30:38,876 –> 00:30:39,676
no, I’m not going to say that.
1051
00:30:39,756 –> 00:30:40,236
No, I’d say it.
1052
00:30:40,676 –> 00:30:44,796
No, there’s a lot of misbehaving that takes place during
1053
00:30:44,796 –> 00:30:44,916
that.
1054
00:30:44,916 –> 00:30:46,636
I’m like, shagging in the staples.
1055
00:30:47,036 –> 00:30:48,236
I mean, all kinds of stuff.
1056
00:30:48,236 –> 00:30:48,876
And I’m thinking,
1057
00:30:49,116 –> 00:30:51,916
these are people that are in business and like the
1058
00:30:51,916 –> 00:30:53,116
island is so small,
1059
00:30:53,436 –> 00:30:54,756
you see what’s going on,
1060
00:30:54,756 –> 00:30:55,516
but people just,
1061
00:30:55,516 –> 00:30:55,996
they let,
1062
00:30:55,996 –> 00:30:56,476
they let it,
1063
00:30:56,476 –> 00:30:57,596
they thought it all hang out.
1064
00:30:57,836 –> 00:30:58,836
It’s interesting.
1065
00:30:58,836 –> 00:30:59,876
What do you mean hang out?
1066
00:31:01,196 –> 00:31:02,476
Next question for Jay.
1067
00:31:04,836 –> 00:31:05,596
Yes, so I am not.
1068
00:31:05,996 –> 00:31:07,436
I am, as you can see,
1069
00:31:07,876 –> 00:31:11,996
I am not at the Mackinaw Detroit Policy Conference
1070
00:31:12,956 –> 00:31:15,236
because I actually had some stuff I had to do for
1071
00:31:15,236 –> 00:31:15,596
real.
1072
00:31:15,996 –> 00:31:16,876
Doesn’t mean there’s not,
1073
00:31:17,596 –> 00:31:19,116
is there some valuable conversation?
1074
00:31:19,236 –> 00:31:20,636
I’m sure there is that goes on there.
1075
00:31:20,876 –> 00:31:23,916
But it’s, there’s no magic formula that it can go on
1076
00:31:23,916 –> 00:31:25,196
there or not in Lansing,
1077
00:31:25,276 –> 00:31:25,436
right?
1078
00:31:25,436 –> 00:31:27,676
I mean, it can go on to Lansing too and go on downtown.
1079
00:31:28,596 –> 00:31:31,116
Do you know Mackinac is an old Ojibwe word,
1080
00:31:31,316 –> 00:31:32,236
which means beautiful?
1081
00:31:32,636 –> 00:31:32,796
Really?
1082
00:31:33,436 –> 00:31:36,316
Yeah, and policy conference is also an Ojibwe word.
1083
00:31:36,316 –> 00:31:36,876
It means not.
1084
00:31:36,876 –> 00:31:39,156
Not beautiful.
1085
00:31:39,356 –> 00:31:39,836
But don’t you,
1086
00:31:39,836 –> 00:31:42,956
the topics have been the same for decades.
1087
00:31:43,836 –> 00:31:45,476
So the agenda has been the same.
1088
00:31:45,516 –> 00:31:45,876
Yeah, it’s,
1089
00:31:45,916 –> 00:31:46,436
it’s, it’s,
1090
00:31:47,036 –> 00:31:47,756
it should be.
1091
00:31:49,116 –> 00:31:51,516
If I were a Detroit citizen,
1092
00:31:51,676 –> 00:31:52,956
Detroit taxpayer,
1093
00:31:53,596 –> 00:31:56,476
I would be frustrated as can be with the reality.
1094
00:31:56,476 –> 00:31:58,156
I think we did talk about it briefly that
1095
00:31:58,876 –> 00:32:01,236
We’ve been talking about the same issues in the city
1096
00:32:01,236 –> 00:32:02,956
of Detroit for 40 years.
1097
00:32:03,356 –> 00:32:04,236
I say that all the time.
1098
00:32:04,316 –> 00:32:05,116
For 40 years.
1099
00:32:05,156 –> 00:32:05,676
Okay, wait,
1100
00:32:05,676 –> 00:32:09,276
let’s hear from our sponsors and come back to this
1101
00:32:09,276 –> 00:32:15,436
because we had a debate Thursday and it just wrecked
1102
00:32:15,516 –> 00:32:17,836
Karen because of that.
1103
00:32:18,196 –> 00:32:19,916
And I’d like to explore that right after this.
1104
00:32:20,636 –> 00:32:21,756
You know your teeth can’t heal,
1105
00:32:21,756 –> 00:32:22,956
but the stock market can.
1106
00:32:22,956 –> 00:32:23,996
That’s just a fact.
1107
00:32:24,316 –> 00:32:26,316
The market roller coaster is making you grind your
1108
00:32:26,316 –> 00:32:26,636
teeth.
1109
00:32:26,796 –> 00:32:32,236
Call or text my friend Luke Nowacki at 248-663-4748.
1110
00:32:32,556 –> 00:32:34,836
We’re all hanging on to this ride like Gayle King and
1111
00:32:34,836 –> 00:32:35,596
Katy Perry.
1112
00:32:35,836 –> 00:32:37,116
Just hang on to your flower.
1113
00:32:37,356 –> 00:32:39,596
Some people are saying that the earth will be better
1114
00:32:39,596 –> 00:32:40,796
when this is all over.
1115
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1120
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lived closer to home?
1121
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Are you a caregiver with good heart and good character,
1122
00:32:54,716 –> 00:32:56,876
but you feel stuck in a dead-end job?
1123
00:32:57,356 –> 00:33:00,196
Are you a social entrepreneur looking for a safe real
1124
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estate investment within a fast-growing market?
1125
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1126
00:33:06,836 –> 00:33:09,836
Archangel offers a solution in a vision to compete
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with big corporate senior living communities.
1128
00:33:12,876 –> 00:33:18,476
Call Archangel at 989-614-0316.
1129
00:33:20,316 –> 00:33:21,396
Fuck you, Jealous Media.
1130
00:33:22,476 –> 00:33:23,916
That was awesome.
1131
00:33:24,076 –> 00:33:25,916
That debate was awesome.
1132
00:33:25,916 –> 00:33:27,196
You know what that debate was?
1133
00:33:27,276 –> 00:33:28,156
It wasn’t a circus.
1134
00:33:28,316 –> 00:33:29,916
That was the only debate
1135
00:33:30,556 –> 00:33:33,556
that you’re ever going to get where the people get
1136
00:33:33,556 –> 00:33:34,716
to be there.
1137
00:33:35,436 –> 00:33:35,956
All of them.
1138
00:33:36,316 –> 00:33:39,996
So if Detroit is this miracle comeback city,
1139
00:33:40,796 –> 00:33:43,676
then why was everybody so angry in that audience?
1140
00:33:43,916 –> 00:33:47,196
Why did not one reporter write that down?
1141
00:33:48,316 –> 00:33:50,956
They failed to take into consideration that,
1142
00:33:51,196 –> 00:33:52,236
just as you said,
1143
00:33:52,236 –> 00:33:53,996
Jay, and just as I say all the time,
1144
00:33:54,396 –> 00:33:56,876
residents in this city have gone unseen,
1145
00:33:56,876 –> 00:34:00,076
unheard, and their issues ignored and unaddressed
1146
00:34:00,316 –> 00:34:01,276
for so long.
1147
00:34:01,276 –> 00:34:04,196
There’s a level of frustration that they felt,
1148
00:34:04,196 –> 00:34:05,836
and it was obvious there.
1149
00:34:05,916 –> 00:34:08,636
They expressed it the only way that they knew how.
1150
00:34:08,636 –> 00:34:09,996
It wasn’t disrespectful.
1151
00:34:10,156 –> 00:34:11,356
It wasn’t disruptive.
1152
00:34:11,596 –> 00:34:15,036
It was disappointing because we are still asking for
1153
00:34:15,036 –> 00:34:15,916
the same things.
1154
00:34:16,076 –> 00:34:18,156
And people have been relatively quiet
1155
00:34:18,276 –> 00:34:20,396
the past 12 years because they’ve been made to feel
1156
00:34:20,396 –> 00:34:21,196
if you speak up,
1157
00:34:21,436 –> 00:34:22,876
then you are anti,
1158
00:34:22,876 –> 00:34:23,956
you’re the bad person,
1159
00:34:23,956 –> 00:34:24,956
you’re the naysayer.
1160
00:34:25,076 –> 00:34:26,236
When in reality,
1161
00:34:26,796 –> 00:34:27,276
you know,
1162
00:34:27,356 –> 00:34:29,556
no, it’s these people deserve,
1163
00:34:29,596 –> 00:34:32,396
people in the city deserve more than what they’ve
1164
00:34:32,396 –> 00:34:32,796
gotten.
1165
00:34:33,036 –> 00:34:34,556
Not just the new Detroiter,
1166
00:34:34,636 –> 00:34:35,836
but the native Detroiter.
1167
00:34:36,036 –> 00:34:38,916
And the native Detroiter has been all ignored for the
1168
00:34:38,916 –> 00:34:40,316
attraction of the new Detroiter.
1169
00:34:40,316 –> 00:34:43,396
And that juxtaposition has created a lot of angst.
1170
00:34:43,476 –> 00:34:45,596
And we saw that at the conversation.
1171
00:34:45,836 –> 00:34:46,316
Lesson a debate.
1172
00:34:46,716 –> 00:34:46,876
Yeah.
1173
00:34:47,116 –> 00:34:47,436
Mr.
1174
00:34:47,436 –> 00:34:47,796
Chairman.
1175
00:34:48,556 –> 00:34:49,636
Well, I would agree.
1176
00:34:49,636 –> 00:34:52,436
And I don’t profess to know at all about the city of
1177
00:34:52,436 –> 00:34:52,676
Detroit.
1178
00:34:52,676 –> 00:34:53,596
I’m not from Detroit,
1179
00:34:53,836 –> 00:34:55,116
but I’ve observed it from my outside.
1180
00:34:55,116 –> 00:34:56,236
My parents grew up down here.
1181
00:34:56,236 –> 00:34:57,436
My father was born down here.
1182
00:34:58,076 –> 00:35:00,276
My mom would tell me about the stories when she was
1183
00:35:00,276 –> 00:35:02,476
a little girl in the late 40s,
1184
00:35:02,476 –> 00:35:03,196
early 50s,
1185
00:35:03,196 –> 00:35:05,276
taking the train from Algonac,
1186
00:35:05,276 –> 00:35:05,916
Michigan,
1187
00:35:05,996 –> 00:35:06,716
the inner urban,
1188
00:35:06,716 –> 00:35:09,196
all the way to downtown Detroit to visit her aunt.
1189
00:35:09,756 –> 00:35:13,116
Detroit was arguably the wealthiest city in the world
1190
00:35:13,116 –> 00:35:13,516
at one time,
1191
00:35:13,516 –> 00:35:13,756
right?
1192
00:35:14,956 –> 00:35:17,196
But there’s a jobs desert in Detroit.
1193
00:35:17,356 –> 00:35:17,836
And, you know,
1194
00:35:17,836 –> 00:35:18,556
God bless,
1195
00:35:18,556 –> 00:35:18,956
you know,
1196
00:35:19,596 –> 00:35:21,676
Gilbert, who’s spending a lot of money downtown,
1197
00:35:21,676 –> 00:35:22,196
and by the way,
1198
00:35:22,196 –> 00:35:24,556
a lot of tax dollar money being spent there too downtown.
1199
00:35:26,196 –> 00:35:29,676
And we paint this downtown and we measure the entire
1200
00:35:29,676 –> 00:35:31,596
city by just this downtown,
1201
00:35:31,596 –> 00:35:32,476
when the reality is,
1202
00:35:32,476 –> 00:35:35,436
is you have all the citizens sitting on the outlier
1203
00:35:35,436 –> 00:35:37,996
areas of the city of Detroit who are looking for a
1204
00:35:37,996 –> 00:35:38,796
job, right?
1205
00:35:38,796 –> 00:35:42,716
They just want a job that can pay their bills,
1206
00:35:42,876 –> 00:35:44,476
that can take care of their family.
1207
00:35:44,796 –> 00:35:46,076
You want to reduce crime,
1208
00:35:46,076 –> 00:35:47,596
you want to reduce petty crime,
1209
00:35:47,596 –> 00:35:49,596
you want to reduce drug use and drug sales.
1210
00:35:50,876 –> 00:35:52,796
Bring some businesses to Detroit.
1211
00:35:54,076 –> 00:35:55,516
You’re never going to hit the grand slam,
1212
00:35:55,516 –> 00:35:57,276
although politicians try to hit the grand slam all
1213
00:35:57,276 –> 00:35:57,676
this time,
1214
00:35:57,676 –> 00:35:59,436
writing billion dollar checks to special interest
1215
00:35:59,676 –> 00:36:00,236
businesses,
1216
00:36:00,236 –> 00:36:00,436
right?
1217
00:36:00,436 –> 00:36:01,836
They think that that’s going to solve the problem.
1218
00:36:01,836 –> 00:36:03,676
No, I’m going to tell you what’s going to solve the
1219
00:36:03,676 –> 00:36:03,956
problem.
1220
00:36:03,956 –> 00:36:07,316
The 35 small businesses that employ 65 people is what’s
1221
00:36:07,316 –> 00:36:08,196
going to solve the problem.
1222
00:36:09,316 –> 00:36:12,396
And the city of Detroit is vacant of those things.
1223
00:36:12,756 –> 00:36:13,836
getting taxed to death.
1224
00:36:13,836 –> 00:36:14,396
Taxed to death.
1225
00:36:14,556 –> 00:36:14,956
Right.
1226
00:36:14,956 –> 00:36:16,556
You need some service,
1227
00:36:16,876 –> 00:36:17,116
you know,
1228
00:36:17,196 –> 00:36:18,076
you can’t get it.
1229
00:36:18,316 –> 00:36:18,716
Correct.
1230
00:36:19,196 –> 00:36:21,436
And we talked a little bit about education.
1231
00:36:21,676 –> 00:36:27,276
You know, it declined so much that even a move of the
1232
00:36:27,276 –> 00:36:30,196
needle is really not a major accomplishment enough
1233
00:36:30,476 –> 00:36:31,956
to make people prepared.
1234
00:36:32,076 –> 00:36:32,636
We still have a 50%
1235
00:36:32,636 –> 00:36:34,236
illiteracy rate in this city.
1236
00:36:34,316 –> 00:36:35,756
We cannot ignore that.
1237
00:36:35,756 –> 00:36:37,596
So when you talk about being qualified,
1238
00:36:37,996 –> 00:36:39,356
not just on paper,
1239
00:36:39,356 –> 00:36:41,756
but qualified in terms of the person,
1240
00:36:41,756 –> 00:36:42,156
you know,
1241
00:36:42,156 –> 00:36:42,436
I mean,
1242
00:36:43,036 –> 00:36:44,156
What do you do?
1243
00:36:44,236 –> 00:36:45,996
And these people are in survival mode.
1244
00:36:46,476 –> 00:36:47,316
They’re in survival mode.
1245
00:36:47,316 –> 00:36:50,116
They’re absolutely in survivable mode in public education.
1246
00:36:50,116 –> 00:36:53,116
My wife is a public school teacher and she will tell
1247
00:36:53,116 –> 00:36:55,836
you that we moved away from the basics.
1248
00:36:55,836 –> 00:36:57,516
She’s been there for 25 plus years.
1249
00:36:57,836 –> 00:36:59,196
We moved away from the basics.
1250
00:37:00,476 –> 00:37:02,196
If you need a guy who can read a blueprint,
1251
00:37:02,196 –> 00:37:05,756
right, he needs to be able to read the language.
1252
00:37:06,316 –> 00:37:07,596
He needs to be able to do math,
1253
00:37:08,156 –> 00:37:08,556
right?
1254
00:37:09,196 –> 00:37:10,476
He doesn’t need
1255
00:37:11,436 –> 00:37:16,636
all these other assigned studies that you have to do,
1256
00:37:16,636 –> 00:37:19,516
these other curriculum things you have to do,
1257
00:37:19,516 –> 00:37:21,196
he needs to be able to read,
1258
00:37:21,596 –> 00:37:23,996
do math, and then throw some science in there.
1259
00:37:23,996 –> 00:37:26,116
One of the funny things is that I’m in that lumber
1260
00:37:26,116 –> 00:37:27,036
industry that I said,
1261
00:37:27,516 –> 00:37:28,076
you hear this,
1262
00:37:28,076 –> 00:37:28,756
who needs algebra?
1263
00:37:28,756 –> 00:37:29,796
Nobody’s ever gonna need algebra.
1264
00:37:29,796 –> 00:37:30,876
Actually, I use it all the time.
1265
00:37:31,276 –> 00:37:34,636
And geometry and trigonometry all the time.
1266
00:37:35,116 –> 00:37:36,076
I apply it in my business.
1267
00:37:36,076 –> 00:37:38,836
So those basics in public education are what we’re
1268
00:37:38,836 –> 00:37:39,196
missing.
1269
00:37:39,436 –> 00:37:40,196
For the first time,
1270
00:37:40,196 –> 00:37:41,236
I don’t know if you’ve heard this number,
1271
00:37:41,236 –> 00:37:42,476
for the first time in Michigan,
1272
00:37:42,476 –> 00:37:42,876
at least,
1273
00:37:43,836 –> 00:37:47,036
the ratio of teachers in classroom to administrative
1274
00:37:47,036 –> 00:37:48,396
employees is 1 to one.
1275
00:37:48,636 –> 00:37:49,596
Yeah, hey,
1276
00:37:49,596 –> 00:37:52,196
Claude, remember when I was talking to you about the
1277
00:37:52,196 –> 00:37:53,756
growth of the administrative class?
1278
00:37:55,476 –> 00:37:56,116
It’s one to one,
1279
00:37:56,236 –> 00:37:57,756
one teacher for one administrator.
1280
00:37:58,156 –> 00:37:58,756
Crazy.
1281
00:37:58,956 –> 00:38:02,636
This is some places where you can solve issues if we
1282
00:38:02,636 –> 00:38:03,596
talk about it honestly,
1283
00:38:03,756 –> 00:38:04,156
because
1284
00:38:05,076 –> 00:38:07,556
In order to get schools together,
1285
00:38:07,556 –> 00:38:08,636
you can criticize them.
1286
00:38:08,636 –> 00:38:14,356
You’re completely not criticizing the career of teaching
1287
00:38:14,636 –> 00:38:15,356
that I taught.
1288
00:38:15,356 –> 00:38:16,236
It’s a beautiful thing.
1289
00:38:16,316 –> 00:38:16,716
Correct.
1290
00:38:16,716 –> 00:38:18,076
But I also seem to,
1291
00:38:18,716 –> 00:38:19,756
my thought,
1292
00:38:20,276 –> 00:38:22,436
what changes is the curriculum because you purchased
1293
00:38:22,436 –> 00:38:23,116
the curriculum.
1294
00:38:23,676 –> 00:38:25,116
So that’s a racket.
1295
00:38:25,516 –> 00:38:28,156
And then we’re teaching you a test.
1296
00:38:28,596 –> 00:38:29,516
We’re not teaching kids.
1297
00:38:29,516 –> 00:38:30,596
We’re teaching to a test.
1298
00:38:31,196 –> 00:38:31,516
Right.
1299
00:38:31,596 –> 00:38:34,716
Teaching should evolve with necessities of society.
1300
00:38:35,596 –> 00:38:35,836
Right.
1301
00:38:36,116 –> 00:38:38,076
It should evolve for necessities of society.
1302
00:38:38,476 –> 00:38:38,876
The other,
1303
00:38:38,956 –> 00:38:40,036
just a side note,
1304
00:38:40,036 –> 00:38:41,756
the other issue is those administrators,
1305
00:38:42,716 –> 00:38:45,036
they get paid more than the school teachers get paid.
1306
00:38:45,236 –> 00:38:47,076
So we’re spending more money on people sitting in rooms
1307
00:38:47,076 –> 00:38:50,636
that aren’t educating kids than we are on teachers
1308
00:38:50,876 –> 00:38:52,076
who are
1309
00:38:52,476 –> 00:38:53,756
supposed to be educating kids.
1310
00:38:54,396 –> 00:38:55,276
That’s a problem.
1311
00:38:55,276 –> 00:38:57,596
Can we throw English in there as well?
1312
00:38:57,596 –> 00:39:00,396
I think the ability to communicate is just,
1313
00:39:00,556 –> 00:39:03,756
it’s important for anything that you decide to do,
1314
00:39:03,956 –> 00:39:04,796
whatever it is.
1315
00:39:05,756 –> 00:39:08,876
And I can’t tell you the times that I’ve heard educators
1316
00:39:09,116 –> 00:39:12,316
or people in that space speak incorrectly.
1317
00:39:12,476 –> 00:39:13,156
And it just,
1318
00:39:13,796 –> 00:39:15,956
Even I hear elected officials all the time,
1319
00:39:15,996 –> 00:39:16,876
even people in the media.
1320
00:39:17,076 –> 00:39:17,996
Well, it’s like,
1321
00:39:18,036 –> 00:39:18,876
what are we doing?
1322
00:39:19,036 –> 00:39:21,596
I don’t particularly care about how you come off in
1323
00:39:21,596 –> 00:39:22,956
your manner of speech,
1324
00:39:22,956 –> 00:39:24,156
but like with my daughter,
1325
00:39:24,156 –> 00:39:28,636
I don’t worry because I know she can use the language
1326
00:39:29,996 –> 00:39:33,516
and reason from her brain to her hand to the paper.
1327
00:39:34,196 –> 00:39:35,756
So that tells me everything.
1328
00:39:36,076 –> 00:39:37,596
Well, I don’t want to hear a person.
1329
00:39:37,996 –> 00:39:38,556
I don’t.
1330
00:39:38,636 –> 00:39:39,756
I don’t like hearing.
1331
00:39:40,156 –> 00:39:40,636
I don’t.
1332
00:39:40,636 –> 00:39:41,436
That bothers me.
1333
00:39:41,636 –> 00:39:42,356
So I mean,
1334
00:39:42,356 –> 00:39:45,436
when I’m watching the news and they’re ending a sentence
1335
00:39:45,436 –> 00:39:46,396
with a preposition,
1336
00:39:46,756 –> 00:39:47,996
I mean, that bothers me.
1337
00:39:47,996 –> 00:39:49,116
Where is this at?
1338
00:39:49,116 –> 00:39:50,156
What are we going to,
1339
00:39:50,196 –> 00:39:50,636
Karen?
1340
00:39:50,676 –> 00:39:51,916
Where are you going to with this?
1341
00:39:51,916 –> 00:39:52,356
I don’t know.
1342
00:39:52,396 –> 00:39:53,356
Oh my God.
1343
00:39:53,436 –> 00:39:56,596
You bring up an interesting topic because.
1344
00:39:56,596 –> 00:39:59,436
I was just saying English should be on the list of
1345
00:39:59,436 –> 00:40:00,636
things that we address.
1346
00:40:00,636 –> 00:40:01,756
That is an educational.
1347
00:40:02,076 –> 00:40:02,796
That’s all.
1348
00:40:02,836 –> 00:40:03,956
Is all a preposition?
1349
00:40:04,196 –> 00:40:04,596
That’s all.
1350
00:40:04,596 –> 00:40:05,196
What is all?
1351
00:40:06,396 –> 00:40:07,676
I am not an English student.
1352
00:40:07,676 –> 00:40:08,436
I promise you that.
1353
00:40:10,276 –> 00:40:11,036
My wife could tell you.
1354
00:40:11,196 –> 00:40:11,996
Just throw it in there,
1355
00:40:11,996 –> 00:40:12,396
Charlie.
1356
00:40:12,396 –> 00:40:12,716
That’s all.
1357
00:40:13,196 –> 00:40:14,796
All is all misspelled.
1358
00:40:16,076 –> 00:40:16,316
True.
1359
00:40:16,636 –> 00:40:17,436
You know, if you look back,
1360
00:40:17,436 –> 00:40:18,316
though, there’s three things.
1361
00:40:18,476 –> 00:40:19,156
There’s 3 things.
1362
00:40:19,156 –> 00:40:20,476
And this applies in the city of Detroit.
1363
00:40:20,556 –> 00:40:21,676
There you go with the math again.
1364
00:40:22,156 –> 00:40:22,476
Yeah, right.
1365
00:40:22,476 –> 00:40:22,836
I’m sorry.
1366
00:40:22,836 –> 00:40:23,476
He’s using it.
1367
00:40:24,556 –> 00:40:24,836
Go ahead.
1368
00:40:24,836 –> 00:40:26,076
It applies in the city of Detroit,
1369
00:40:26,236 –> 00:40:27,596
but it also applies in the state,
1370
00:40:27,596 –> 00:40:27,836
right?
1371
00:40:27,836 –> 00:40:29,516
People want infrastructure that works.
1372
00:40:29,676 –> 00:40:29,996
Yes.
1373
00:40:30,396 –> 00:40:32,396
They want education that works.
1374
00:40:32,396 –> 00:40:32,796
Yes.
1375
00:40:33,156 –> 00:40:34,436
And they want public safety that works.
1376
00:40:34,436 –> 00:40:34,716
Yes.
1377
00:40:34,796 –> 00:40:35,116
Period.
1378
00:40:35,596 –> 00:40:36,076
Period.
1379
00:40:36,156 –> 00:40:36,356
Yeah.
1380
00:40:36,556 –> 00:40:37,116
Clean water.
1381
00:40:37,596 –> 00:40:39,276
Well, I would throw that in the infrastructure that
1382
00:40:39,276 –> 00:40:39,676
works, right?
1383
00:40:39,996 –> 00:40:41,036
That’s where I would put it.
1384
00:40:42,476 –> 00:40:44,956
Those 3 things are the things that government should
1385
00:40:44,956 –> 00:40:45,596
be focused on,
1386
00:40:46,076 –> 00:40:46,196
right?
1387
00:40:46,796 –> 00:40:48,236
And when we can’t,
1388
00:40:48,596 –> 00:40:49,116
when we have a,
1389
00:40:49,956 –> 00:40:53,396
when we have an $85 billion proposed,
1390
00:40:53,396 –> 00:40:55,676
$87 billion proposed budget out of the governor’s
1391
00:40:55,676 –> 00:40:57,756
office that,
1392
00:40:57,756 –> 00:40:58,156
by the way,
1393
00:40:58,156 –> 00:40:59,436
raises taxes,
1394
00:41:01,036 –> 00:41:02,556
Because the words are,
1395
00:41:02,556 –> 00:41:06,796
we can’t fix the roads with the 81 billion that we
1396
00:41:06,796 –> 00:41:07,196
have.
1397
00:41:07,636 –> 00:41:10,716
What are we spending our money on that we can’t fix
1398
00:41:10,716 –> 00:41:11,276
the roads?
1399
00:41:11,276 –> 00:41:13,436
3 billion of 81 billion.
1400
00:41:14,276 –> 00:41:14,956
It’s a good point.
1401
00:41:15,276 –> 00:41:15,756
It’s a really.
1402
00:41:16,476 –> 00:41:19,356
We need to raise taxes to do the core infrastructure.
1403
00:41:20,076 –> 00:41:21,836
Like those three things are my pet peeves.
1404
00:41:21,836 –> 00:41:22,556
Well, here’s,
1405
00:41:22,716 –> 00:41:23,756
because nobody knows.
1406
00:41:24,396 –> 00:41:24,996
During the debate,
1407
00:41:24,996 –> 00:41:27,916
question number one that I asked all the candidates
1408
00:41:28,476 –> 00:41:29,916
was, what is Detroit’s?
1409
00:41:30,556 –> 00:41:30,876
budget is,
1410
00:41:30,956 –> 00:41:31,676
you know,
1411
00:41:32,076 –> 00:41:32,876
the state budget.
1412
00:41:34,236 –> 00:41:37,276
They didn’t know the budget and they want to run,
1413
00:41:37,436 –> 00:41:37,836
you want to,
1414
00:41:37,836 –> 00:41:38,596
we got the clip mark.
1415
00:41:38,716 –> 00:41:45,036
This is from the city’s Chief Financial Officer’s Office.
1416
00:41:46,716 –> 00:41:47,516
Next year,
1417
00:41:47,516 –> 00:41:50,316
the budget will fall when you add in inflation.
1418
00:41:50,316 –> 00:41:51,356
The year after that,
1419
00:41:51,596 –> 00:41:53,996
it will be cut by $50 million.
1420
00:41:54,436 –> 00:41:56,556
What we have coming up,
1421
00:41:58,476 –> 00:42:00,316
Our Biden bucks running out,
1422
00:42:00,716 –> 00:42:02,436
the pensions being restored,
1423
00:42:02,436 –> 00:42:03,396
we have to pay for that.
1424
00:42:03,396 –> 00:42:04,436
It’s another 10%.
1425
00:42:05,196 –> 00:42:05,596
Okay.
1426
00:42:07,116 –> 00:42:10,316
The fire contract comes due next June.
1427
00:42:11,036 –> 00:42:11,876
They’ve had a 1%
1428
00:42:12,316 –> 00:42:14,876
cost of living adjustment since 2014.
1429
00:42:15,036 –> 00:42:15,916
They’ve lost 30%
1430
00:42:15,916 –> 00:42:17,116
of their retirement.
1431
00:42:17,276 –> 00:42:18,436
They’re going to want something.
1432
00:42:19,996 –> 00:42:22,636
The police contract comes due in a year and a half.
1433
00:42:23,276 –> 00:42:24,476
This fiscal year already,
1434
00:42:24,476 –> 00:42:26,716
we’re $25 million in the red.
1435
00:42:27,316 –> 00:42:29,916
The state has reconfigured its budget because of falling
1436
00:42:29,916 –> 00:42:30,476
revenues.
1437
00:42:30,596 –> 00:42:31,676
The United States’
1438
00:42:31,676 –> 00:42:33,196
credit rating was downgraded.
1439
00:42:35,396 –> 00:42:36,156
What you going to do?
1440
00:42:36,796 –> 00:42:39,116
You’re going to cut jobs because you can’t cut debt
1441
00:42:39,116 –> 00:42:39,596
payments.
1442
00:42:39,676 –> 00:42:40,876
You can’t cut pensions.
1443
00:42:40,876 –> 00:42:42,556
How are you going to balance these books,
1444
00:42:42,556 –> 00:42:42,956
gentlemen?
1445
00:42:43,196 –> 00:42:43,596
Please.
1446
00:42:43,996 –> 00:42:46,316
I would, first of all,
1447
00:42:46,556 –> 00:42:50,796
focus on bringing in revenue into the city treasury.
1448
00:42:50,956 –> 00:42:51,556
There’s an idea.
1449
00:42:51,556 –> 00:42:53,996
I brought for in prior sessions that we should have
1450
00:42:53,996 –> 00:42:54,036
a
1451
00:42:55,076 –> 00:42:56,716
Forensic, transparent,
1452
00:42:56,956 –> 00:42:58,876
audit, independent,
1453
00:42:59,116 –> 00:43:00,556
so we know exactly where we are.
1454
00:43:00,556 –> 00:43:03,196
I’ve seen reports that said we’re about 300 billion
1455
00:43:03,436 –> 00:43:04,916
shortfall right now.
1456
00:43:04,916 –> 00:43:06,916
We have to maintain what the status quo is.
1457
00:43:07,276 –> 00:43:11,636
We have $827 million of ARPA funding here in the city
1458
00:43:11,636 –> 00:43:12,316
of Detroit.
1459
00:43:12,516 –> 00:43:16,396
And now we won’t enjoy that type of funding going into
1460
00:43:16,396 –> 00:43:19,596
the next fiscal year or our budget cycle.
1461
00:43:19,836 –> 00:43:21,436
So we’re not,
1462
00:43:21,756 –> 00:43:23,276
okay, we’re in a vulnerable state.
1463
00:43:23,956 –> 00:43:26,236
and we see revenue starting to trend down,
1464
00:43:26,236 –> 00:43:27,756
but we’ve got to stay the course.
1465
00:43:28,476 –> 00:43:29,756
Everything that they’re talking about,
1466
00:43:29,756 –> 00:43:30,596
if they could have did it,
1467
00:43:30,596 –> 00:43:36,036
they would have done it.
1468
00:43:36,476 –> 00:43:37,756
It’s real simple for me.
1469
00:43:39,436 –> 00:43:41,356
If you know how to get businesses in here,
1470
00:43:41,596 –> 00:43:43,756
you know who to engage.
1471
00:43:44,316 –> 00:43:47,316
We just had several mayors coming here over the last
1472
00:43:47,316 –> 00:43:48,396
24 hours.
1473
00:43:49,116 –> 00:43:52,316
But let’s draw a line between efficiency
1474
00:43:53,116 –> 00:43:55,116
in the system and effectiveness?
1475
00:43:57,236 –> 00:43:58,316
I don’t think we got an answer,
1476
00:43:58,316 –> 00:43:58,716
Karen.
1477
00:43:59,436 –> 00:44:00,156
Do we ever?
1478
00:44:00,716 –> 00:44:01,556
Would you make an answer?
1479
00:44:02,316 –> 00:44:03,196
Nobody gave you a number.
1480
00:44:03,196 –> 00:44:05,436
How long ago did the city of Detroit get bailed out?
1481
00:44:07,336 –> 00:44:08,376
In terms of bankruptcy?
1482
00:44:08,376 –> 00:44:08,536
Yeah.
1483
00:44:08,816 –> 00:44:14,816
We emerged from bankruptcy in early 2015 to late 2014.
1484
00:44:14,856 –> 00:44:16,336
And here we are again headed down that path.
1485
00:44:16,776 –> 00:44:18,016
Very quite likely.
1486
00:44:18,136 –> 00:44:21,496
And what’s interesting is it isn’t the citizen taxpayer’s
1487
00:44:21,496 –> 00:44:21,856
fault.
1488
00:44:22,576 –> 00:44:22,776
No.
1489
00:44:23,136 –> 00:44:23,456
Right.
1490
00:44:23,696 –> 00:44:24,176
You see it.
1491
00:44:24,176 –> 00:44:25,976
But they’re the ones that are going to end up penalized.
1492
00:44:26,016 –> 00:44:26,216
Yes.
1493
00:44:26,896 –> 00:44:27,856
Ask the pensioners.
1494
00:44:28,656 –> 00:44:29,136
For sure.
1495
00:44:30,256 –> 00:44:30,856
Absolutely.
1496
00:44:30,856 –> 00:44:31,136
Now.
1497
00:44:31,416 –> 00:44:32,336
That’s bad leadership.
1498
00:44:32,336 –> 00:44:33,376
That’s bad administration,
1499
00:44:33,376 –> 00:44:33,856
period.
1500
00:44:34,176 –> 00:44:35,296
Doesn’t matter if…
1501
00:44:36,536 –> 00:44:37,776
Doesn’t matter who’s sitting in the chair.
1502
00:44:38,896 –> 00:44:40,976
Biden said in over a billion here.
1503
00:44:41,536 –> 00:44:42,976
Duggan ate it alive,
1504
00:44:42,976 –> 00:44:46,176
just downtown click with the drywall and the Detroit
1505
00:44:46,176 –> 00:44:47,536
Lions does not make a city.
1506
00:44:47,616 –> 00:44:48,416
They ate it.
1507
00:44:48,736 –> 00:44:49,456
It’s gone.
1508
00:44:49,616 –> 00:44:52,096
Now they want to come and you’re going to pay for,
1509
00:44:52,416 –> 00:44:52,896
through you,
1510
00:44:52,896 –> 00:44:54,296
we’re going to pay for the Renaissance Center.
1511
00:44:55,136 –> 00:44:55,616
See this here?
1512
00:44:55,696 –> 00:44:56,416
Not through me.
1513
00:44:56,456 –> 00:44:57,616
Yeah, and I bought a share.
1514
00:44:58,016 –> 00:44:58,656
If that goes through,
1515
00:44:58,696 –> 00:45:00,056
I’m suing the fuck out of him,
1516
00:45:00,056 –> 00:45:00,336
dude.
1517
00:45:00,576 –> 00:45:03,696
No way are we making a billionaire another billion.
1518
00:45:04,896 –> 00:45:05,776
Well, that’s a whole different,
1519
00:45:05,776 –> 00:45:07,616
that’s an economic policy that is,
1520
00:45:07,896 –> 00:45:08,696
as you know,
1521
00:45:08,696 –> 00:45:10,656
any guy sitting with a piece of paper and pencil can
1522
00:45:10,816 –> 00:45:12,896
put it down quick to determine that it’s a disaster,
1523
00:45:13,056 –> 00:45:14,896
but that’s an economic policy that’s been going on
1524
00:45:14,976 –> 00:45:15,456
in the same mission.
1525
00:45:15,496 –> 00:45:17,936
Well, they’re up at Macko making the policy again,
1526
00:45:17,936 –> 00:45:18,136
Mark.
1527
00:45:18,136 –> 00:45:19,536
Can we go back to the live feed?
1528
00:45:20,136 –> 00:45:20,976
There they are,
1529
00:45:22,016 –> 00:45:23,056
getting off the ferry.
1530
00:45:24,816 –> 00:45:27,936
Here comes the Detroit Chamber of Commerce.
1531
00:45:30,096 –> 00:45:31,856
We’re at the Ethel Merman pool.
1532
00:45:34,416 –> 00:45:35,696
Forgive me for the pun,
1533
00:45:35,696 –> 00:45:37,056
but try the pigs in a blanket.
1534
00:45:39,016 –> 00:45:39,696
Cannibals,
1535
00:45:39,776 –> 00:45:40,656
they’re cannibals.
1536
00:45:41,576 –> 00:45:41,936
Come on, hey,
1537
00:45:41,936 –> 00:45:43,056
hey, hey,
1538
00:45:43,216 –> 00:45:43,536
hey, hey,
1539
00:45:45,256 –> 00:45:45,416
hey, hey.
1540
00:45:45,416 –> 00:45:46,816
That’s going to be the debate tomorrow.
1541
00:45:48,056 –> 00:45:48,816
Detroit debate.
1542
00:45:49,536 –> 00:45:50,336
You want to see,
1543
00:45:50,896 –> 00:45:52,816
you want to see Killer Karen at the debate?
1544
00:45:53,936 –> 00:45:56,896
Oh, oh, this is called,
1545
00:45:56,896 –> 00:45:58,336
I call this,
1546
00:45:58,856 –> 00:46:06,616
You’ve been criticized for your departure as an elected
1547
00:46:06,616 –> 00:46:09,216
official to join the nonprofit.
1548
00:46:09,976 –> 00:46:13,296
A question would be what is going to prevent you from
1549
00:46:13,296 –> 00:46:15,296
abandoning another elected position?
1550
00:46:15,616 –> 00:46:16,016
If you were,
1551
00:46:16,176 –> 00:46:17,616
that’s not a negative question.
1552
00:46:17,616 –> 00:46:20,096
That’s just a good question because people want to
1553
00:46:20,096 –> 00:46:20,176
know.
1554
00:46:21,856 –> 00:46:22,896
It’s a real question.
1555
00:46:23,536 –> 00:46:25,056
And I’ve been asked it before.
1556
00:46:25,536 –> 00:46:26,216
First of all,
1557
00:46:26,336 –> 00:46:28,496
I’ve never abandoned anything.
1558
00:46:28,816 –> 00:46:30,576
I’ve never abandoned this city.
1559
00:46:30,576 –> 00:46:35,216
I’ve spent my entire life grinding for this city.
1560
00:46:35,376 –> 00:46:39,336
My first job was at Focus Home at 17 years old,
1561
00:46:39,336 –> 00:46:42,416
and I’ve been serving Detroiters since I was 17 years
1562
00:46:42,416 –> 00:46:42,816
old.
1563
00:46:43,056 –> 00:46:44,416
The most vulnerable,
1564
00:46:44,736 –> 00:46:50,176
the most vulnerable populations in this city have
1565
00:46:50,176 –> 00:46:53,136
been my focus my entire adult life,
1566
00:46:53,376 –> 00:46:54,896
and that will not change.
1567
00:46:55,056 –> 00:46:57,056
When I left city council,
1568
00:46:57,856 –> 00:47:00,416
I was leaving one of nine seats.
1569
00:47:01,616 –> 00:47:03,256
The city did not stop.
1570
00:47:03,936 –> 00:47:05,536
There’s one mayor.
1571
00:47:06,256 –> 00:47:08,576
I would not run for mayor and then leave.
1572
00:47:08,816 –> 00:47:09,736
That would not happen.
1573
00:47:14,256 –> 00:47:16,656
Listen, there’s a difference between career politicians
1574
00:47:16,656 –> 00:47:18,736
and people who actually do the job because they’re
1575
00:47:18,736 –> 00:47:20,096
actually trying to just help their community.
1576
00:47:20,136 –> 00:47:20,896
There’s a big difference.
1577
00:47:21,216 –> 00:47:22,096
You see it Lansing,
1578
00:47:22,336 –> 00:47:22,656
you know,
1579
00:47:22,976 –> 00:47:23,456
you see it,
1580
00:47:23,456 –> 00:47:26,336
you see it at the local level.
1581
00:47:26,856 –> 00:47:30,176
You want to see how plugged in she is to our community.
1582
00:47:30,176 –> 00:47:30,656
And by the way,
1583
00:47:30,856 –> 00:47:31,616
as Detroit goes,
1584
00:47:31,616 –> 00:47:32,256
the state goes.
1585
00:47:32,256 –> 00:47:33,256
There’s just no getting around.
1586
00:47:33,256 –> 00:47:34,656
Detroit is capital city.
1587
00:47:34,656 –> 00:47:34,816
Sure.
1588
00:47:34,896 –> 00:47:35,536
It just is.
1589
00:47:36,496 –> 00:47:37,696
When Karen asked that,
1590
00:47:39,616 –> 00:47:40,736
because you’re in the moment.
1591
00:47:40,896 –> 00:47:42,176
I told you when we were doing,
1592
00:47:42,176 –> 00:47:43,176
I was just watching you.
1593
00:47:43,176 –> 00:47:44,096
When you spoke,
1594
00:47:44,976 –> 00:47:46,096
people spoke with you.
1595
00:47:46,096 –> 00:47:47,376
So when you asked that,
1596
00:47:48,016 –> 00:47:51,456
there were so many people attuned to what you were
1597
00:47:51,456 –> 00:47:52,176
asking.
1598
00:47:52,536 –> 00:47:53,696
It was amazing.
1599
00:47:54,096 –> 00:47:55,056
I thought it was beautiful.
1600
00:47:55,056 –> 00:47:57,816
It was a great question and people wanted that answered.
1601
00:47:57,816 –> 00:47:58,576
Well, these are,
1602
00:47:58,576 –> 00:47:59,656
again, like I said,
1603
00:47:59,656 –> 00:48:00,776
for the last 12 years,
1604
00:48:00,776 –> 00:48:01,656
people have been quiet.
1605
00:48:01,816 –> 00:48:03,296
And then now we’ve got a mayor election.
1606
00:48:03,296 –> 00:48:04,016
Everybody’s looking.
1607
00:48:04,016 –> 00:48:06,576
People say things privately that they don’t always
1608
00:48:06,576 –> 00:48:07,376
say publicly.
1609
00:48:07,576 –> 00:48:10,176
But that is a question that I have heard consistently.
1610
00:48:10,656 –> 00:48:12,416
I know one of her competitors,
1611
00:48:12,416 –> 00:48:12,656
you know,
1612
00:48:12,656 –> 00:48:13,936
used it to kind of attack her.
1613
00:48:14,256 –> 00:48:15,376
I just wanted an answer,
1614
00:48:15,376 –> 00:48:15,696
you know,
1615
00:48:15,696 –> 00:48:16,496
because people say,
1616
00:48:16,496 –> 00:48:17,536
okay, you were in the middle,
1617
00:48:17,536 –> 00:48:19,136
you were here and you left.
1618
00:48:19,736 –> 00:48:20,736
call it abandonment,
1619
00:48:20,736 –> 00:48:22,256
call it suspension,
1620
00:48:22,576 –> 00:48:23,296
departure,
1621
00:48:23,296 –> 00:48:25,136
however you want to characterize it,
1622
00:48:25,376 –> 00:48:26,256
but she left.
1623
00:48:26,256 –> 00:48:27,616
And so people want to know,
1624
00:48:27,616 –> 00:48:28,976
why did you leave?
1625
00:48:29,376 –> 00:48:31,696
And would you leave again if something that appeared
1626
00:48:31,696 –> 00:48:33,856
to be better or different come along?
1627
00:48:34,096 –> 00:48:35,296
That was a legitimate question.
1628
00:48:35,296 –> 00:48:36,576
It was not meant as an attack.
1629
00:48:36,816 –> 00:48:37,616
It was a question.
1630
00:48:37,936 –> 00:48:39,296
She was city council president.
1631
00:48:39,696 –> 00:48:42,416
So like, you’re the next mayor.
1632
00:48:42,416 –> 00:48:43,576
So I don’t buy the
1633
00:48:44,216 –> 00:48:45,536
There’s 9 council people,
1634
00:48:45,536 –> 00:48:47,776
but to her defense,
1635
00:48:47,776 –> 00:48:48,576
she didn’t say it,
1636
00:48:48,576 –> 00:48:49,616
but she said it afterwards.
1637
00:48:50,256 –> 00:48:51,216
It was so corrupt,
1638
00:48:51,216 –> 00:48:51,936
the council at that time.
1639
00:48:51,936 –> 00:48:52,976
The feds were all in.
1640
00:48:52,976 –> 00:48:53,896
She didn’t want part of it.
1641
00:48:53,896 –> 00:48:54,176
And I said,
1642
00:48:54,336 –> 00:48:54,976
you should have said that.
1643
00:48:54,976 –> 00:48:55,736
She should have said that.
1644
00:48:55,776 –> 00:48:58,256
You should say that because that I remember.
1645
00:48:58,576 –> 00:49:00,656
Monica Conyers feeling my balls.
1646
00:49:00,976 –> 00:49:01,696
You know what I mean?
1647
00:49:01,936 –> 00:49:05,216
Other council members using their granddaughter’s phone
1648
00:49:05,296 –> 00:49:06,736
because everybody’s shit is tapped.
1649
00:49:06,896 –> 00:49:08,256
This is nuts.
1650
00:49:08,416 –> 00:49:10,976
And the people have had enough.
1651
00:49:11,536 –> 00:49:12,576
And again,
1652
00:49:13,536 –> 00:49:16,576
Fuck you if you say it’s a circus because you don’t,
1653
00:49:17,056 –> 00:49:17,496
you didn’t,
1654
00:49:17,496 –> 00:49:19,376
they didn’t put that to commitment.
1655
00:49:19,376 –> 00:49:23,136
But her saying that would have eliminated anybody ever
1656
00:49:23,136 –> 00:49:24,016
asking her that again.
1657
00:49:24,016 –> 00:49:25,696
We aren’t expecting miracles.
1658
00:49:25,856 –> 00:49:27,616
We’re not expecting them to be magicians.
1659
00:49:27,776 –> 00:49:31,616
We know the reality of the landscape that we live in
1660
00:49:31,616 –> 00:49:32,976
and that they have to function in.
1661
00:49:33,216 –> 00:49:35,256
So don’t pretend like it has to be something else.
1662
00:49:35,256 –> 00:49:36,536
It doesn’t have to be packaged.
1663
00:49:36,536 –> 00:49:37,936
It doesn’t have to be performative.
1664
00:49:38,336 –> 00:49:39,536
Just tell us what’s really going on.
1665
00:49:39,856 –> 00:49:40,736
Well, but that’s a,
1666
00:49:40,736 –> 00:49:41,896
that was a political answer,
1667
00:49:41,896 –> 00:49:42,416
right?
1668
00:49:42,576 –> 00:49:43,416
Because politics.
1669
00:49:43,496 –> 00:49:46,896
Petitions tend to hedge what they say because they
1670
00:49:46,896 –> 00:49:48,856
never know if there’s an if come from somebody they
1671
00:49:48,856 –> 00:49:50,176
might offend when they say it,
1672
00:49:50,336 –> 00:49:50,656
right?
1673
00:49:51,056 –> 00:49:53,376
And that is something that as a voter,
1674
00:49:53,376 –> 00:49:54,496
you should pay attention to.
1675
00:49:54,976 –> 00:49:57,696
You should pay attention to the people who make a promise
1676
00:49:57,776 –> 00:50:00,496
during their campaign and then never deliver,
1677
00:50:00,896 –> 00:50:01,176
right?
1678
00:50:01,456 –> 00:50:02,016
Absolutely.
1679
00:50:02,576 –> 00:50:04,176
That’s an obvious thing to pay attention to.
1680
00:50:04,176 –> 00:50:04,696
Everybody forget,
1681
00:50:04,696 –> 00:50:05,056
and again,
1682
00:50:05,056 –> 00:50:07,296
this is why the media bothers me so.
1683
00:50:07,856 –> 00:50:09,376
You’re supposed to remind them.
1684
00:50:10,016 –> 00:50:10,896
That’s your job.
1685
00:50:10,896 –> 00:50:12,016
They don’t do that.
1686
00:50:12,216 –> 00:50:12,376
Yeah.
1687
00:50:12,576 –> 00:50:13,456
These people are busy.
1688
00:50:13,456 –> 00:50:13,856
They don’t.
1689
00:50:14,096 –> 00:50:17,656
And they’re expecting you to wade through the,
1690
00:50:17,696 –> 00:50:18,016
you know,
1691
00:50:18,016 –> 00:50:18,976
the chaff.
1692
00:50:19,016 –> 00:50:19,976
And like, what is it,
1693
00:50:19,976 –> 00:50:20,216
man?
1694
00:50:20,216 –> 00:50:20,656
What is it?
1695
00:50:20,656 –> 00:50:24,216
Like, they were happy that we put that on because they’ve
1696
00:50:24,216 –> 00:50:25,616
never been invited.
1697
00:50:26,176 –> 00:50:27,336
We got anything more on the floor?
1698
00:50:27,336 –> 00:50:27,456
Yeah.
1699
00:50:29,376 –> 00:50:30,256
About the riverfront.
1700
00:50:31,216 –> 00:50:33,296
Okay, so the riverfront,
1701
00:50:33,296 –> 00:50:34,256
do you know about the riverfront?
1702
00:50:34,576 –> 00:50:34,776
No.
1703
00:50:34,976 –> 00:50:35,776
You got to know this.
1704
00:50:35,776 –> 00:50:36,776
Bring me up to speed here some,
1705
00:50:37,056 –> 00:50:37,296
I’m sure.
1706
00:50:37,456 –> 00:50:38,736
The Renaissance Center,
1707
00:50:39,136 –> 00:50:40,496
and we want money.
1708
00:50:40,896 –> 00:50:42,496
And somebody,
1709
00:50:43,736 –> 00:50:45,136
there’s something called the Conservancy.
1710
00:50:45,296 –> 00:50:48,016
So from the Ambassador Bridge to Belle Isle,
1711
00:50:48,656 –> 00:50:49,696
it’s a Conservancy.
1712
00:50:49,736 –> 00:50:52,816
I’m like, who owns the riverfront?
1713
00:50:54,056 –> 00:50:55,576
$40 million got stolen,
1714
00:50:55,576 –> 00:50:56,096
embezzled,
1715
00:50:56,496 –> 00:50:56,816
right?
1716
00:50:56,816 –> 00:50:58,496
The guy was using credit cards.
1717
00:50:59,056 –> 00:51:00,176
How did nobody
1718
00:51:00,696 –> 00:51:02,176
Everybody on city council,
1719
00:51:02,776 –> 00:51:03,936
anybody from Lansing on there,
1720
00:51:04,176 –> 00:51:05,056
the mayor’s people,
1721
00:51:05,056 –> 00:51:05,936
Gilbert’s people,
1722
00:51:06,736 –> 00:51:07,656
nobody watched.
1723
00:51:07,776 –> 00:51:11,336
We had one accountant and he stole $40 million with
1724
00:51:11,336 –> 00:51:11,856
a credit card.
1725
00:51:12,816 –> 00:51:14,776
Okay, so we asked him.
1726
00:51:14,776 –> 00:51:16,336
Too much money going around there if that’s the case.
1727
00:51:16,976 –> 00:51:18,816
What is the Riverfront Conservancy?
1728
00:51:18,976 –> 00:51:20,536
Who owns the Riverfront?
1729
00:51:20,856 –> 00:51:22,016
And why is a guy?
1730
00:51:22,176 –> 00:51:22,776
That’s right.
1731
00:51:23,176 –> 00:51:24,656
What is the Riverfront Conservancy,
1732
00:51:24,696 –> 00:51:25,376
first of all?
1733
00:51:25,376 –> 00:51:27,776
So it is managed by the Conservancy,
1734
00:51:27,776 –> 00:51:28,576
a non-profit.
1735
00:51:28,656 –> 00:51:30,976
It is owned by the Conservancy itself.
1736
00:51:30,976 –> 00:51:32,016
Owned by the Conservancy.
1737
00:51:32,016 –> 00:51:32,936
Yeah, from my understanding,
1738
00:51:32,936 –> 00:51:33,456
it is, yes.
1739
00:51:33,776 –> 00:51:34,496
The Riverfront.
1740
00:51:34,816 –> 00:51:37,696
Yes, it’s managed and operated by the River.
1741
00:51:37,696 –> 00:51:38,416
It’s not a property.
1742
00:51:38,816 –> 00:51:41,696
The property continues to be owned by the city and
1743
00:51:41,696 –> 00:51:42,376
the state.
1744
00:51:42,496 –> 00:51:45,456
The Conservancy takes care of the property.
1745
00:51:46,616 –> 00:51:47,976
She’s on the board.
1746
00:51:48,176 –> 00:51:49,456
They’ll work it out.
1747
00:51:49,936 –> 00:51:50,496
They’ll work it out.
1748
00:51:50,496 –> 00:51:55,176
I will say that I think all of us were displeased and
1749
00:51:55,176 –> 00:51:57,216
upset at what happened with the Conservancy as it
1750
00:51:57,216 –> 00:51:57,936
relates to that.
1751
00:51:59,456 –> 00:51:59,856
No, not.
1752
00:52:00,016 –> 00:52:01,536
Listen to the crowd.
1753
00:52:01,536 –> 00:52:02,936
You were on the board.
1754
00:52:03,696 –> 00:52:05,296
Is that not an oversight role?
1755
00:52:05,296 –> 00:52:06,456
No, no, no.
1756
00:52:07,416 –> 00:52:08,176
No, not at all.
1757
00:52:08,496 –> 00:52:10,336
Not at all.
1758
00:52:10,416 –> 00:52:12,176
But we’re just to say it’s symbolic,
1759
00:52:12,176 –> 00:52:12,416
right?
1760
00:52:12,816 –> 00:52:13,776
It’s you’re on a board.
1761
00:52:13,776 –> 00:52:14,536
It’s ceremonial.
1762
00:52:14,976 –> 00:52:16,696
We are in some regard.
1763
00:52:16,696 –> 00:52:17,296
That is correct.
1764
00:52:17,296 –> 00:52:20,576
We are appointed to numerous boards as in our positions,
1765
00:52:20,576 –> 00:52:20,816
right?
1766
00:52:20,856 –> 00:52:22,176
And so it’s somewhat can be,
1767
00:52:22,176 –> 00:52:23,696
and I don’t want to say ceremonial,
1768
00:52:23,696 –> 00:52:24,496
but yes, we are.
1769
00:52:25,136 –> 00:52:25,456
But again,
1770
00:52:25,496 –> 00:52:26,776
what happened in that situation,
1771
00:52:26,776 –> 00:52:28,536
I do not take any credit whatsoever.
1772
00:52:28,536 –> 00:52:29,216
And I don’t think Matt
1773
00:52:29,376 –> 00:52:31,456
or none of the leadership should,
1774
00:52:31,456 –> 00:52:32,656
but I think at the end of the day,
1775
00:52:32,816 –> 00:52:35,736
we have to continue to invest in our riverfront.
1776
00:52:35,776 –> 00:52:39,056
We want to make sure that we maintain that as a world-class
1777
00:52:39,136 –> 00:52:43,256
riverfront in our city and ensure that the growth
1778
00:52:43,496 –> 00:52:46,496
and the progress goes back into our neighborhoods.
1779
00:52:48,176 –> 00:52:48,296
Jay?
1780
00:52:49,456 –> 00:52:50,496
Holy smokes.
1781
00:52:52,256 –> 00:52:53,616
I always go back to the voters,
1782
00:52:53,656 –> 00:52:53,776
though.
1783
00:52:53,776 –> 00:52:55,256
I always go back to the citizens’
1784
00:52:55,256 –> 00:52:55,776
taxpayers.
1785
00:52:57,536 –> 00:52:59,936
They gotta make a change.
1786
00:53:00,256 –> 00:53:02,336
They have to fundamentally swing in a different direction
1787
00:53:02,336 –> 00:53:03,616
because what have you got to lose?
1788
00:53:03,696 –> 00:53:04,816
You’re being fleeced.
1789
00:53:05,536 –> 00:53:05,856
Did you?
1790
00:53:06,096 –> 00:53:07,456
Yes, you see the audience.
1791
00:53:07,536 –> 00:53:07,856
Yes.
1792
00:53:07,856 –> 00:53:08,656
Jam-packed,
1793
00:53:08,656 –> 00:53:11,376
probably 1,000 people coming and going five,
1794
00:53:11,376 –> 00:53:12,816
600 in any one time.
1795
00:53:13,056 –> 00:53:14,176
They are hungry,
1796
00:53:14,576 –> 00:53:15,856
they’re well aware,
1797
00:53:16,176 –> 00:53:19,616
and they showed up at Northwest Detroit,
1798
00:53:19,776 –> 00:53:23,016
right, to look and listen to this.
1799
00:53:23,056 –> 00:53:24,016
And you heard them,
1800
00:53:24,096 –> 00:53:25,456
oh my fucking God.
1801
00:53:26,456 –> 00:53:27,296
It’s ceremonial,
1802
00:53:27,296 –> 00:53:27,536
what?
1803
00:53:28,376 –> 00:53:29,216
They want answers,
1804
00:53:29,216 –> 00:53:29,456
though.
1805
00:53:29,616 –> 00:53:34,296
I mean, and when the people that are in decision-making
1806
00:53:34,296 –> 00:53:36,816
positions can’t provide solid,
1807
00:53:36,896 –> 00:53:39,776
substantive answers and accountability.
1808
00:53:41,896 –> 00:53:42,256
Oversight.
1809
00:53:43,096 –> 00:53:43,576
Oversight.
1810
00:53:44,496 –> 00:53:47,136
Listen, the buck stops with the person in charge,
1811
00:53:47,456 –> 00:53:47,696
right?
1812
00:53:47,856 –> 00:53:48,416
Ultimately.
1813
00:53:49,496 –> 00:53:51,456
When’s the last time you heard a politician say,
1814
00:53:51,456 –> 00:53:51,776
hey,
1815
00:53:52,416 –> 00:53:53,336
I didn’t know anything about that,
1816
00:53:53,336 –> 00:53:54,176
but it’s my fault.
1817
00:53:54,176 –> 00:53:56,976
I was the person in charge and I’m responsible for
1818
00:53:56,976 –> 00:53:58,896
the people who are operating underneath me.
1819
00:53:59,216 –> 00:54:00,976
You haven’t heard that out of a politician in a long
1820
00:54:00,976 –> 00:54:01,296
time.
1821
00:54:01,696 –> 00:54:02,576
Because no…
1822
00:54:03,416 –> 00:54:05,856
They’re afraid to wear the wrong color blazer on TV
1823
00:54:05,856 –> 00:54:08,856
because some polling data says that it might offend
1824
00:54:08,856 –> 00:54:09,616
someone, right?
1825
00:54:10,016 –> 00:54:12,336
That’s how far off the rails we’ve gone with politicians.
1826
00:54:12,336 –> 00:54:14,816
They’re not about taking care of you anymore.
1827
00:54:15,216 –> 00:54:16,816
They’re about winning elections,
1828
00:54:17,056 –> 00:54:18,176
raising money,
1829
00:54:18,576 –> 00:54:19,696
and garnering power,
1830
00:54:20,016 –> 00:54:20,656
period.
1831
00:54:21,216 –> 00:54:23,616
As soon as the electorate can understand that,
1832
00:54:23,776 –> 00:54:25,616
they’ll start to put different people in place.
1833
00:54:25,936 –> 00:54:29,576
Roll the dice on the guy in your hometown that just
1834
00:54:29,576 –> 00:54:31,776
wants to correct the problem as opposed to the career
1835
00:54:31,776 –> 00:54:33,216
politician that speaks good.
1836
00:54:33,456 –> 00:54:34,576
Or, you know,
1837
00:54:34,576 –> 00:54:37,696
the guy that just moved in your hometown from 39 Mile
1838
00:54:37,696 –> 00:54:39,256
Road in the Pumpkin Patch.
1839
00:54:39,256 –> 00:54:40,816
You got three addresses in Detroit.
1840
00:54:40,976 –> 00:54:42,336
Do not bust my balls.
1841
00:54:42,496 –> 00:54:43,696
Those are the facts.
1842
00:54:43,936 –> 00:54:45,216
Those are the facts.
1843
00:54:45,536 –> 00:54:46,736
I love my priest,
1844
00:54:46,896 –> 00:54:48,256
but I’m not voting for him for mayor.
1845
00:54:48,416 –> 00:54:48,536
Right.
1846
00:54:48,536 –> 00:54:50,016
And he doesn’t want to be mayor.
1847
00:54:50,416 –> 00:54:51,816
He cares about what’s going on in here.
1848
00:54:51,816 –> 00:54:51,936
Right.
1849
00:54:52,416 –> 00:54:53,296
He’s a beautiful man.
1850
00:54:53,776 –> 00:54:54,096
Claudette,
1851
00:54:54,096 –> 00:54:55,296
he wants to see you in church.
1852
00:54:55,616 –> 00:54:55,856
Okay.
1853
00:54:56,296 –> 00:54:56,736
Every time,
1854
00:54:57,056 –> 00:54:58,336
every time I go up there for the host,
1855
00:54:58,336 –> 00:55:00,016
he goes, where’s Claudette?
1856
00:55:00,536 –> 00:55:01,056
I’m like,
1857
00:55:02,096 –> 00:55:03,136
She’s there in spirit.
1858
00:55:03,136 –> 00:55:04,016
I’m trying to commune.
1859
00:55:05,296 –> 00:55:07,136
Oh, all of a sudden it’s the Holy Spirit and the Claudette
1860
00:55:07,136 –> 00:55:07,456
spirit.
1861
00:55:07,456 –> 00:55:08,336
She’s there in spirit.
1862
00:55:08,816 –> 00:55:08,936
Yeah.
1863
00:55:08,936 –> 00:55:10,656
A church is a building like a restaurant.
1864
00:55:10,816 –> 00:55:13,216
Like you don’t have to go to church to have a relationship
1865
00:55:13,216 –> 00:55:14,416
with God or to connect.
1866
00:55:14,416 –> 00:55:16,256
You know, just like you don’t have to go to a restaurant
1867
00:55:16,256 –> 00:55:16,616
to eat.
1868
00:55:17,296 –> 00:55:19,056
I just go to hear the old man.
1869
00:55:19,336 –> 00:55:19,456
Okay.
1870
00:55:19,776 –> 00:55:21,016
I just go to hear the old man.
1871
00:55:21,016 –> 00:55:23,776
I want to hear the word and I want to hear the homily
1872
00:55:24,096 –> 00:55:27,216
because the old man is the shepherd of the community.
1873
00:55:27,656 –> 00:55:28,976
He’ll let me know what’s going on.
1874
00:55:28,976 –> 00:55:30,416
You know, I just like him.
1875
00:55:30,936 –> 00:55:33,936
And sometimes I just go and I sneak in and I hear the
1876
00:55:33,936 –> 00:55:36,496
word and I hear his words and I’m out.
1877
00:55:36,496 –> 00:55:37,856
Because I’m not doing this,
1878
00:55:38,776 –> 00:55:38,976
bro.
1879
00:55:40,096 –> 00:55:43,056
I’m like, ooh,
1880
00:55:43,056 –> 00:55:43,216
no.
1881
00:55:44,096 –> 00:55:44,576
I just go,
1882
00:55:44,736 –> 00:55:46,816
I go climb in a tree stand in Northern Michigan.
1883
00:55:46,816 –> 00:55:47,936
That’s where my church is at.
1884
00:55:47,936 –> 00:55:49,656
I spend my time right there with nature and that’s
1885
00:55:49,656 –> 00:55:49,856
how I.
1886
00:55:49,856 –> 00:55:50,856
In a tree stand.
1887
00:55:51,216 –> 00:55:52,256
And that’s a good thing.
1888
00:55:52,336 –> 00:55:53,696
You’re up there looking for some white tail.
1889
00:55:53,696 –> 00:55:54,136
I am, man.
1890
00:55:54,336 –> 00:55:55,496
There’s no doubt about it.
1891
00:55:55,496 –> 00:55:55,896
Charlie.
1892
00:55:56,576 –> 00:55:57,296
Up in the woods.
1893
00:55:58,176 –> 00:55:59,216
Jade the Boyer.
1894
00:56:00,376 –> 00:56:01,576
Chairman of the House of Oversight,
1895
00:56:01,576 –> 00:56:02,616
Karen Dumas,
1896
00:56:04,336 –> 00:56:05,296
the soul of Detroit.
1897
00:56:06,496 –> 00:56:07,136
Love you guys.
1898
00:56:07,576 –> 00:56:09,176
Okay, now just to review before we leave.
1899
00:56:09,176 –> 00:56:11,576
Yeah, yeah.
1900
00:56:11,616 –> 00:56:11,656
$3,147.80.
1901
00:56:11,656 –> 00:56:12,296
That was your what,
1902
00:56:12,296 –> 00:56:15,776
your freedom of information request?
1903
00:56:15,776 –> 00:56:18,016
Yeah, for the what did you give the feds for the nursing
1904
00:56:18,016 –> 00:56:18,336
home?
1905
00:56:19,696 –> 00:56:21,776
Corneck, Nestle,
1906
00:56:23,216 –> 00:56:23,536
Whitmer.
1907
00:56:25,616 –> 00:56:27,136
How about 35th District Senate House?
1908
00:56:27,136 –> 00:56:28,216
35th District.
1909
00:56:28,456 –> 00:56:29,696
When are we going to get that election?
1910
00:56:30,096 –> 00:56:31,216
We’re just about ready,
1911
00:56:31,216 –> 00:56:31,496
I heard.
1912
00:56:31,496 –> 00:56:32,416
Yeah, that’s just about ready.
1913
00:56:32,456 –> 00:56:34,096
What I would say is there’s a couple of things.
1914
00:56:34,096 –> 00:56:34,656
If you recall,
1915
00:56:34,656 –> 00:56:37,496
there was 2 Democratic state representatives a year
1916
00:56:37,496 –> 00:56:38,336
ago that ran for,
1917
00:56:38,336 –> 00:56:40,176
I think, mayors of their respective communities,
1918
00:56:40,176 –> 00:56:40,736
and they won,
1919
00:56:40,896 –> 00:56:42,816
and those things were called just like that.
1920
00:56:44,216 –> 00:56:45,496
Because of the Democratic seats.
1921
00:56:45,536 –> 00:56:46,016
Correct.
1922
00:56:46,256 –> 00:56:48,296
This one in particular in the 35th,
1923
00:56:48,376 –> 00:56:50,336
I mean, could you violate someone’s civil rights more
1924
00:56:50,336 –> 00:56:52,736
than by not providing them representation in the Senate?
1925
00:56:53,176 –> 00:56:54,656
I mean, could there be a larger,
1926
00:56:54,936 –> 00:56:55,696
I mean, I guess you could,
1927
00:56:55,696 –> 00:56:56,496
depends on your person,
1928
00:56:56,496 –> 00:56:56,896
who we are,
1929
00:56:57,056 –> 00:57:00,016
but arguably one of the most fundamental thing is
1930
00:57:00,016 –> 00:57:01,296
representation in our government.
1931
00:57:01,696 –> 00:57:04,816
And the 35th district is setting their vacant and not
1932
00:57:04,816 –> 00:57:05,256
being called.
1933
00:57:05,256 –> 00:57:06,256
Just for people listening,
1934
00:57:06,536 –> 00:57:07,736
this is fucking Midland.
1935
00:57:08,136 –> 00:57:08,976
This ain’t Podunk.
1936
00:57:09,136 –> 00:57:09,536
Correct.
1937
00:57:10,056 –> 00:57:10,616
Unbelievable.
1938
00:57:10,656 –> 00:57:12,496
I mean, you’re talking about 250,000 plus people.
1939
00:57:12,576 –> 00:57:14,936
Plus an economic motor in this state.
1940
00:57:14,936 –> 00:57:17,176
That does not have a Senate representative.
1941
00:57:17,176 –> 00:57:19,616
Because then the Senate would be 50-50.
1942
00:57:20,016 –> 00:57:23,576
And then Gilchrist would always have to cast the deciding
1943
00:57:23,576 –> 00:57:25,216
vote, which would ruin his career.
1944
00:57:25,256 –> 00:57:25,456
Right.
1945
00:57:26,256 –> 00:57:26,496
Correct.
1946
00:57:26,496 –> 00:57:27,216
It’s all game.
1947
00:57:27,456 –> 00:57:29,696
It goes back to choosing the wrong blazer.
1948
00:57:30,016 –> 00:57:30,736
That’s correct.
1949
00:57:30,736 –> 00:57:31,696
It’s all a show.
1950
00:57:31,776 –> 00:57:32,256
It’s a game.
1951
00:57:32,416 –> 00:57:33,376
And if you…
1952
00:57:33,736 –> 00:57:34,736
Like to me that,
1953
00:57:34,896 –> 00:57:37,616
listen, you can stand on TV and say anything you want,
1954
00:57:37,616 –> 00:57:38,816
promise anything you want.
1955
00:57:39,136 –> 00:57:40,096
It’s the actions.
1956
00:57:40,256 –> 00:57:41,616
That action to me says,
1957
00:57:41,856 –> 00:57:43,096
I don’t really care about the people.
1958
00:57:43,096 –> 00:57:44,416
I care about my political gain,
1959
00:57:44,696 –> 00:57:45,216
period.
1960
00:57:45,376 –> 00:57:49,216
Well, anything that I’ve said on TV wasn’t me,
1961
00:57:49,216 –> 00:57:50,216
it was AI.
1962
00:57:50,216 –> 00:57:50,256
AI.
1963
00:57:50,416 –> 00:57:51,016
It was Charlie AI.
1964
00:57:51,136 –> 00:57:51,456
Me too.
1965
00:57:51,456 –> 00:57:52,176
In fact, this is AI.
1966
00:57:53,136 –> 00:57:57,616
Oh, next week I will be in Texas doing the,
1967
00:57:58,456 –> 00:57:59,376
Dave Landau show.
1968
00:57:59,536 –> 00:58:01,296
So we’re going to simulcast it.
1969
00:58:01,456 –> 00:58:02,496
Might be doing Glenn Beck.
1970
00:58:03,296 –> 00:58:03,936
Normal World.
1971
00:58:04,136 –> 00:58:05,456
You got, okay,
1972
00:58:05,456 –> 00:58:05,776
there you go.
1973
00:58:05,776 –> 00:58:07,376
I’m going to do Tim Pool the week after that.
1974
00:58:07,376 –> 00:58:08,816
I’m going to fly out to the coast.
1975
00:58:09,136 –> 00:58:10,296
So wait, I got two weeks off.
1976
00:58:11,056 –> 00:58:11,776
Yeah, remember you,
1977
00:58:12,336 –> 00:58:12,576
you would,
1978
00:58:12,896 –> 00:58:13,136
you would,
1979
00:58:13,216 –> 00:58:14,856
it just, you need to catch your breath.
1980
00:58:14,896 –> 00:58:15,456
Yeah, I do.
1981
00:58:15,456 –> 00:58:16,416
But okay, then cool.
1982
00:58:16,496 –> 00:58:16,776
I’m going.
1983
00:58:16,896 –> 00:58:18,416
You’re going to Jamaica?
1984
00:58:18,936 –> 00:58:20,016
I just got back from Jamaica.
1985
00:58:20,016 –> 00:58:20,856
I’m going somewhere though.
1986
00:58:20,856 –> 00:58:21,776
Okay, so that’s cool.
1987
00:58:21,776 –> 00:58:21,936
Sorry.
1988
00:58:21,936 –> 00:58:22,736
How about Gary?
1989
00:58:23,776 –> 00:58:24,416
No, I’m good.
1990
00:58:24,696 –> 00:58:25,096
Thank you.
1991
00:58:25,096 –> 00:58:26,336
You can go through Gary.
1992
00:58:26,896 –> 00:58:28,096
No, I don’t know Gary well.
1993
00:58:28,096 –> 00:58:29,216
I’d love to go through Gary.
1994
00:58:30,896 –> 00:58:31,536
Thanks for being here,
1995
00:58:31,536 –> 00:58:31,776
Jay.
1996
00:58:31,936 –> 00:58:32,656
Thanks for having me.
1997
00:58:32,776 –> 00:58:32,976
Awesome.
1998
00:58:33,096 –> 00:58:33,536
Pleasure.
