If Attorney General Dana Nessel had simply tapped the shoulder of the person at the next pillow over, the current state of Michigan politics might be very different.
We may have had a different governor.
We may have had functioning schools, affordable energy or a growing economy.
But we don’t.
Had Nessel done her job, I wouldn’t have had an ex-con dressed like a carnie — standing in the lobby of the Macomb County Courthouse — sticking his middle finger in my nose, his lawyer warning him not to do something stupid.
Also- Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald turns her office into Hollywood East.
Now school shooter convictions are in jeopardy says Macomb County Prosecutor Peter Lucido.
And- U.S. Senator Elissa Slotkin shows she knows nothing about Detroit, the riots, or the constitution.
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OK, if Attorney General Dana Nessel had simply tapped
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the shoulder of the person at the next pillow over,
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the current state of Michigan politics might be very
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different.
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We might have a different governor.
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A competent governor.
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We may have had functioning schools,
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affordable energy,
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or a growing economy,
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but we don’t.
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Had Nestle done her job,
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I wouldn’t have had an ex-con dressed like a Carney
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standing in the lobby of the Macomb County Courthouse,
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sticking his middle finger in my nose,
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his lawyer warning him not to do something stupid.
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Let me get your autograph,
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Signature.
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There’s my signature.
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Wait a minute.
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Is this guy giving me the finger or you the finger
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or the chief of police the finger?
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You remember Detroit Chief of Police James Craig’s
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disastrous debut for governor three years ago?
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I mean, like the chief of police getting run off the
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island by BLM.
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Well, the chief’s campaign actually got worse,
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you see, when One Finger Freddie over here was hired
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by the chief of police and a handful of other candidates
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to collect signatures for them to get on the ballot.
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But Freddie and his guys just made the signatures up,
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forged them fakes,
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allegedly.
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I think that just Googling.
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Some of these individuals,
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you would have seen things pop up from other states.
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And you might remember Attorney General Dana Nestle’s
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smug lecture to the public when she announced charges
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against One Finger Freddie almost two years ago.
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As a candidate,
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as a consultant,
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or a proponent of a ballot proposal,
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you must take the necessary time and effort to do
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your due diligence and research these firms.
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Freddie, whose real name is Sean Wilmoth,
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Is an ex-con from McComb who got caught pulling the
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same scam 15 years ago.
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Through court records,
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we were able to confirm in 2011,
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Sean Wilmoth broke the law gathering voters signatures
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in Virginia and pled guilty to election fraud.
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But it’s bungling Dana Nestle who makes this thing
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so Michigan.
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Nestle didn’t have to Google Freddie’s name.
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All she had to do was tap the shoulder on the next
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pillow over.
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It turns out that a gay rights campaign had hired Freddie
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and his company back in 2020 and paid him $1,000,000
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to gather signatures.
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But the Gay Rights Initiative never made the ballot
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because nearly 200,000 of those signatures were found
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to be bogus.
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And who was the co-chairwoman of the gay rights campaign?
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Nestle’s wife.
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On the next pillow over,
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a proponent of a ballot proposal.
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Please leave.
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What about the gays?
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You screwed that one up,
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So why didn’t Nestle charge Freddy back then?
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It could have saved the chief’s campaign and changed
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Michigan political history.
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If you hadn’t screwed these signatures up,
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we might not have Gretchen Whitmer.
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You want to apologize to the people of Michigan for
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that one?
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Let me get your autograph,
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Signature.
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There’s my signature.
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Can you can you sign it?
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Dana Nestle?
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Do you regret what you did here?
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The chief could have won.
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He was ahead in the polls,
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you know.
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Don’t you just sign it?
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Dana Nestle?
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Can I get your autograph,
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Yeah, I’ll do it myself.
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So why did Nestle not tag one finger Freddy back then?
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Was it family embarrassment?
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Was it professional incompetence?
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This guy is a walking crime wave.
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Allegedly.
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He gets paid untold thousands of dollars for bogus
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signatures.
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Allegedly.
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He does it over and over again.
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You think Nestle would have dropped the anvil on this
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guy, but she didn’t.
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And he blows everything up.
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What a boob.
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Now, As for one finger,
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His pretrial hearing was inexplicably delayed yet again.
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We’re two years into this thing.
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His next appearance is scheduled for March 10th.
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I recommend a clean shirt and a manicure live from
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downtown Detroit.
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It’s the No Bullshit News Hour with my main man,
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And Jaren Dumitz.
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Oh, assistant breaking his double or bullshit.
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Double or bullshit.
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Mark, why don’t I do a couple spots while you get up
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and and fix your screen?
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Fix the screen.
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There you go.
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We’ll fix that in post.
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My big footsteps might make the camera shake.
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There you go.
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All right.
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Politicians lie to you.
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The media lies to you.
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How do you know if your investment statements are lying
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Listen, I’m getting to Luke Nowacki here.
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You know what I mean?
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You know how it goes.
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Remember, you’re not managing your wealth.
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That’s some unseen guy working for a big bank,
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working an algorithm,
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jockeying it,
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making decisions.
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Not what’s best for you,
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but what’s best for his bonus at the end of the year,
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gambling with your hard-earned dollars.
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You should know your money,
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you see what’s going on with the bond market?
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The Fed is a mess,
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and Wall Street is fixing the yield,
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meaning it’s a mess.
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The Lions are going to the Super Bowl.
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And if you don’t want to come downtown and have drunks
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vomit all over you and freeze your ass off,
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a quart, 8 quart of proprietary chili,
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steamer buns,
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an onion,
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and that saucy little hat they wear down here at Michigan
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and Lafayette right on the corner.
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Americanconeyisland.com Get some get some Detroit in
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your Super Bowl party.
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Now Speaking of.
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We got Doctor Detroit here with us.
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Macomb County Prosecutor Pete Lucido.
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How you doing,
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Happy to be here.
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Happy to be here,
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Happy New Year.
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Happy New Year.
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So let’s say let’s get to,
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let’s get to some news real quick.
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Are you going to be US Attorney?
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Are you running for attorney general?
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What do you got?
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What’s in the future for Pete?
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You know what?
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Right now I want to take it day by day because Macomb
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has a a host of things going on.
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In reference to trying to find a body right now,
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unfortunately,
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that was the thought of anything crossing my mind
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other than accomplishing day by day and taking care
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of my family and my health is the only thing I want
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to talk about today.
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Moving forward about my political career and where
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that leads me,
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I think we have to have an inauguration first.
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I know that our US attorney,
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Dawn Eisen has now resigned her position and they’re
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going to be looking for a replacement.
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Well, Pete,
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you should throw your name in the hat to inaugurate,
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sidle up to the president and,
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you know,
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say I’m the man to clean up Dodge.
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And Speaking of bodies,
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man, you look good,
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What have you been eating?
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Your hair?
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No, actually,
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I’ve been.
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I’ve been not watching my weight,
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but letting my weight take care of itself.
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So listen,
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now you saw that that was in your courthouse,
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just down the block from your office that that this
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deal would would with Dana Nestle in these signatures.
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What do you make of that?
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What the hell has taken so long to get this guy on
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I mean, you know,
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speedy justice is real justice.
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They say justice.
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Justice delayed is justice not served.
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And as a result,
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I mean, there’s people out money.
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There is allegations in the case that are not founded
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yet until they’ve been proven beyond a reasonable
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And if he’s going to go to trial,
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what’s holding up the trial?
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There’s been no indication what’s been holding up this
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trial in this case.
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But I want to look at this if the first was taken advantage
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of when they had the signatures taken for their own.
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Process for putting something on the ballot.
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Why wasn’t that brought to light?
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Why wasn’t that brought out that there was some possibly
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foul play?
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Because I don’t know the situation.
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I wasn’t one that paid for this.
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I wasn’t a party to it.
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And maybe those individuals ought to come clean and
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say if we would have gotten justice at that time,
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would we need to go ahead and worry about the allegations
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of fraud on the 2nd,
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3rd and 4th?
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Individuals that were taken for in the last election
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and it all could have been prevented.
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That’s my point.
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That’s the news here,
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which is,
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you know,
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Nessa, she’s the worst,
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worst attorney general I’ve ever seen.
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And I covered Eliot Spitzer.
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OK, so a year before this guy allegedly defrauded a
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bunch of,
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including the front runner for the Republican nomination
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for governor,
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serious questions about.
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You know his ability when he’s raising the signatures
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for the gay rights legislation,
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which is Nestle’s lifelong work and the co-chair is
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her wife.
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Yeah, certainly had to know two years earlier that
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something was going on with this and we were never
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told any could have taken this guy off the streets.
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I mean, at the very least we need an acknowledgement.
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What was the motivation for not at that time charging?
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What was the motivation for not at least informing
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transparency of the public?
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It may have deterred Chief Craig or any of the other
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candidates that wanted to have that individual collect
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signatures from going forward.
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I think we got an expert to put it succinctly.
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That exactly right.
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Should Nestle recuse her?
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Should her office recuse themselves from this case,
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considering the familial connection to this guy?
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One finger,
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I don’t know.
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I don’t know enough about the case itself,
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except this.
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There’s a causal connection between what was done when
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the signatures were being paid for in her spouse’s
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case and the engagement then thereafter when they
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knew they were defrauded,
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apparently based on the facts that I’m hearing.
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And now you have individuals who are.
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Defrauded again,
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apparently,
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based on the alleged allegations that were brought
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to the courthouse.
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And that guy’s his finger smelled.
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You know what I mean?
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It just it just is this consumer,
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is this consumer fraud?
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Because politicians are also consumers of engaging
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in in meaningful contracts for purposes of political
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endeavors.
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So is this consumer fraud?
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Allegedly,
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I would think.
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I mean, you know,
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Craig was the front runner.
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Things could look very different.
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I mean, there could be something more cynical involved
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here is, you know,
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that’s a lot of Republicans want to think that.
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I don’t think Nessa let him run around to blow up the
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Republicans,
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you know,
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because there’s no way for her to know that he had
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even been hired.
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Yeah, but it isn’t the problem that the other option
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is just pure incompetence.
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I mean, that’s really the other option.
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All right,
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now let me move here to like just some more dumb shit.
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I want to.
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I want to go.
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I want to go to Oakland County now.
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The tragedy at Oxford High School is about four children
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who were murdered and then.
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Another who’s doing life in prison for killing them.
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It’s about 11 devastated families having to find a
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way to go on.
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It’s not supposed to be about political careers or
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election cycles.
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It’s not supposed to be,
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but it is.
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It’s become a distasteful and self aggrandizing scene.
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Now the latest,
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it appears the rush to the dim bulbs of broadcast
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TV has distracted Oakland County Prosecutor Karen
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McDonald.
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From following simple instructions from a judge,
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even though the judge ordered both the prosecutor
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in the case of Ethan Crumbly and his parents and the
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defense to keep away from the press,
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the prosecutor couldn’t resist.
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Now it’s a lawsuits.
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Well, a filing by defense attorneys has been made public.
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McDonald contracted with two media handlers and paid
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them 100 grand,
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which with I think I would assume is public money.
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Yeah, yeah,
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public money,
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100 grand.
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After all,
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you know,
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someone has to document her awesomeness,
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the weightiness of her legal acumen.
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So ABC News and the Washington Post were granted behind
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the scenes access interviews with prosecutors in their
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living rooms and strategy sessions.
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A Netflix documentary and all exclusive headlines followed.
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Unbelievable.
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McDonald’s convictions are already in trouble after
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it came to light that she and her office withheld
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from defense lawyers deals that they made with school
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officials in exchange for their testimony.
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Now remember,
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remember,
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I already excoriated them when they were just all
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jumping around on TV and you forgot all about the
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Remember when McDonald announced her decision to arrest
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the parents of the school shooter,
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Ethan Crumbly?
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She did it on TV and she didn’t tell the sheriff she
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was going to do it.
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And the sheriff wasn’t watching,
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but Crumbly’s parents were watching and a manhunt
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Pete, what do you make of it?
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I can ask you something focused by just just right
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off the rip.
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What do you make of this?
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Well, there’s a definitional section in our ethics
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Number one,
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we all carry bar cards,
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which means we’re members of the.
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State Bar of Michigan.
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Those are rules for people that are practicing law.
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There’s a heightened or a elevated rules when you’re
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out of the prosecutor.
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You’re not allowed to comment.
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You’re not allowed to criticize.
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You’re not allowed to give anything but factual information.
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And you’re not allowed to go ahead and make any disingenuous
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statements against the accused because it will possibly
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taint the case,
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which means prejudice the defendant.
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Or the accused at the time and before all evidence
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has been submitted.
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In addition,
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by making a statement to the press,
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you’re held accountable under those standards as a
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prosecutor that if your job is to just see that justice
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is served,
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that’s not serving anybody’s interest except maybe
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your own if you’re slanting that statement.
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For the benefit of her.
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And that was all going to come to light because some
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Court of Appeals may be looking at this as part of
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the overall process in making a determination whether
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or not the Crumbly’s got a fair trial,
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whether or not pretrial media and publicity.
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My understanding is because I work with the media every
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I have a what’s called a communications director that
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directs the communications to the media for to be
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transparent,
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open and honest.
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And we give factual information without giving an opinion
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as to how our feelings are.
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It doesn’t matter how our feelings are.
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It matters that justices serve fairly,
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openly, transparently,
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and under the auspice of the law and the rules of
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professional responsibility that a prosecutor is held
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Well, there was a gag order in this case,
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so I’m assuming just beyond the facts that are revealed
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in trial,
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that’s all you’re going to be able to say.
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Apparently this companies or companies,
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2 communication firms or agents of the prosecutor’s
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And does that agency also entail confidential information
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that is withheld within only the purview of the prosecutor
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and the law enforcement agencies?
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So let’s be very clear how we say things,
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because if they’re sitting in on discussions of trial
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strategies as well as witnesses that may have been
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given proper agreements.
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Well, well,
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let me put that for aside for a minute.
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I’ll write a note here to get back to it,
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cause that’s just another big one,
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because let’s remember what this means.
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It’s a novel piece of jurisprudence where the parents
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are now held responsible for the murderous actions
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of their child.
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That’s a big deal.
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That’s never happened in the United States and this
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whole thing,
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this whole,
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this whole scab.
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Is ripped off once again because somebody can’t keep.
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What is wrong with everybody?
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You can’t keep your nose out of the media,
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You can’t keep your nose out of the media.
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You were told to stop it.
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Now here’s the argument.
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First, here’s the thing about the media.
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ABC News, according to the the defense lawyers filings.
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ABC News and and the Washington Post signed contracts.
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First of all,
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when you’re the press,
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you don’t sign no contract with people you cover.
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Two, the contract was we’ll keep it confidential until
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it’s all said and done.
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And then eight days later on Netflix,
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we’re ready to roll.
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So there’s that part.
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So my question would be how much of this bled through?
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You’re sitting there in the strategy meetings for the
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prosecutor’s living room.
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You work for a news organization and you’re hearing
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So the guy from the Washington Post,
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you did the big take after it’s done.
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Did this guy?
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File any daily briefing briefs?
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Did he write any articles during the trial?
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Is that a problem,
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Do these things have to be overturned in your opinion
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as a prosecutor?
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Well, again,
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I don’t have,
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I don’t have complete control over all the facts in
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the case.
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But what I am doing is reading.
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What I am doing is reading what is being stated in
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the news media.
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But I’m also looking at what my role is as prosecutor.
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It is not to go out and have a media circus.
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And I understand that this was a national case where
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you had to manage the media,
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but I thought the money that was being spent was to
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manage media,
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not create media.
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That’s the first thing.
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The second thing is giving facts and facts alone that
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are open and and that the public can learn about.
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without prejudice in this case that is going to be
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presented.
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And I’m sure the defense lawyers are going to look
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into what was stated in the media.
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Would that been something that was learned in a private,
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confidential meeting that should not have been disclosed
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at the time or before the trial?
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And lastly,
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the money that was spent was taxpayers.
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00:22:15,348 –> 00:22:16,988
And you haven’t even talked about that.
521
00:22:16,988 –> 00:22:18,988
If the taxpayers are fronting the bill,
522
00:22:19,468 –> 00:22:22,428
was it to get the information
523
00:22:23,068 –> 00:22:24,908
To the to the information,
524
00:22:24,908 –> 00:22:26,028
to the individuals,
525
00:22:26,188 –> 00:22:29,948
the the the individuals would be the public.
526
00:22:30,348 –> 00:22:33,788
Or was it for some other motive purpose to get out
527
00:22:33,788 –> 00:22:38,588
something that the prosecutor wanted to do in relation
528
00:22:38,588 –> 00:22:41,148
to the case itself?
529
00:22:41,308 –> 00:22:43,308
And that’s going to be challenged and looked at by
530
00:22:43,308 –> 00:22:44,348
the Court of Appeals.
531
00:22:44,508 –> 00:22:47,948
Let me let me tell you how all this shit in in Michigan
532
00:22:47,948 –> 00:22:49,868
came to be like the hyper charge.
533
00:22:52,668 –> 00:22:55,028
Nobody can talk to Gretchen Whitman in the local media.
534
00:22:55,028 –> 00:22:56,348
All of a sudden she’s on Meet the Press.
535
00:22:56,748 –> 00:22:58,748
Well, Mike Duggan’s shit is getting put.
536
00:22:58,748 –> 00:23:00,988
His lies are getting put in the New York Times,
537
00:23:01,188 –> 00:23:02,988
Nobody’s checking what they’re putting out.
538
00:23:03,148 –> 00:23:04,188
How is that possible?
539
00:23:04,428 –> 00:23:06,348
It goes back to Whitmer gets elected.
540
00:23:06,828 –> 00:23:09,068
They send a guy from the Democratic National Committee,
541
00:23:09,548 –> 00:23:10,988
The the media guru hitman.
542
00:23:11,308 –> 00:23:12,988
He shows these hay seed,
543
00:23:12,988 –> 00:23:13,548
cow town,
544
00:23:13,548 –> 00:23:17,148
backwater politicians and their handlers how to get
545
00:23:17,148 –> 00:23:18,188
national coverage.
546
00:23:18,748 –> 00:23:19,628
Then all of a sudden,
547
00:23:19,628 –> 00:23:20,988
everybody’s got a Rolodex,
548
00:23:20,988 –> 00:23:22,548
everybody’s tied into Washington,
549
00:23:22,548 –> 00:23:23,508
New York and LA,
550
00:23:24,108 –> 00:23:26,988
and they start doing shit like this,
551
00:23:28,988 –> 00:23:32,028
It takes a little expertise and a little time to know
552
00:23:32,028 –> 00:23:32,988
what you’re doing.
553
00:23:34,188 –> 00:23:34,908
I can’t imagine.
554
00:23:34,988 –> 00:23:37,628
I would love access to the prosecutors,
555
00:23:37,708 –> 00:23:39,068
but I might know better.
556
00:23:39,388 –> 00:23:42,228
I might know better when I’m following the trial and
557
00:23:42,228 –> 00:23:43,868
the judge says absolutely not.
558
00:23:45,948 –> 00:23:47,308
Now let’s go to the proffer here.
559
00:23:47,308 –> 00:23:48,748
This is the real legal shit.
560
00:23:48,988 –> 00:23:49,548
And again,
561
00:23:49,548 –> 00:23:54,228
I I say this because my opinion and I can do it.
562
00:23:55,788 –> 00:23:57,548
Rightly, this case should be overturned.
563
00:23:58,268 –> 00:23:59,468
Just as there’s so much.
564
00:23:59,868 –> 00:24:00,428
Yeah, go on.
565
00:24:00,948 –> 00:24:01,948
Before we get there,
566
00:24:02,268 –> 00:24:05,348
do we need a media czar as it relates to criminal
567
00:24:05,348 –> 00:24:06,748
cases now in the future?
568
00:24:07,068 –> 00:24:11,228
To see if this was actual journalism to keep the public
569
00:24:11,308 –> 00:24:13,308
transparent and informed.
570
00:24:13,628 –> 00:24:17,948
Or was it more of a slant to influence a jury?
571
00:24:17,948 –> 00:24:20,508
Remember that that’s that’s critical now in this case.
572
00:24:20,748 –> 00:24:23,548
Do we need a media czar to make the determination that
573
00:24:23,548 –> 00:24:25,468
says this was all fluff,
574
00:24:25,468 –> 00:24:28,468
this was all for nonsense instead of keeping them
575
00:24:28,468 –> 00:24:31,628
informed about just the facts that are going on in
576
00:24:31,628 –> 00:24:32,188
the case?
577
00:24:32,348 –> 00:24:33,548
Now we’ve been around a while,
578
00:24:33,548 –> 00:24:36,268
so we we know a lot of the same heavy hitters here
579
00:24:36,268 –> 00:24:38,028
in the in the legal community,
580
00:24:38,468 –> 00:24:39,548
if I can call it community,
581
00:24:40,908 –> 00:24:42,108
the legal prison yard,
582
00:24:42,508 –> 00:24:42,708
you know,
583
00:24:44,348 –> 00:24:46,108
But I assume,
584
00:24:46,108 –> 00:24:46,868
I don’t know if you did,
585
00:24:46,868 –> 00:24:50,108
but we I’m talking to people that you know who have
586
00:24:50,108 –> 00:24:53,388
inside look at this and I kept quiet about it was
587
00:24:53,468 –> 00:24:54,668
the proffer agreement.
588
00:24:55,868 –> 00:24:58,028
I I kept the dude that kept telling me he’s like,
589
00:24:58,028 –> 00:24:58,348
look man,
590
00:24:58,348 –> 00:25:00,388
you’re going to get in real trouble with those proffer
591
00:25:00,388 –> 00:25:00,828
agreements.
592
00:25:00,828 –> 00:25:01,868
I said what are you talking about?
593
00:25:02,588 –> 00:25:05,388
So not having the physical proffer agreements,
594
00:25:05,388 –> 00:25:07,708
I I stay out and I let the process work.
595
00:25:07,708 –> 00:25:09,308
But as it turns out,
596
00:25:10,028 –> 00:25:11,548
and I’m going to ask your legal opinion,
597
00:25:11,948 –> 00:25:16,068
a proffer agreement is the prosecution at US Attorney
598
00:25:16,068 –> 00:25:16,548
and the FBI.
599
00:25:16,548 –> 00:25:17,308
They do it all the time.
600
00:25:18,108 –> 00:25:19,308
Here’s a piece of paper.
601
00:25:21,308 –> 00:25:22,348
Tell me the truth.
602
00:25:22,908 –> 00:25:26,348
And what you tell us will not be used against you.
603
00:25:26,348 –> 00:25:27,748
That’s the proffer agreement.
604
00:25:27,748 –> 00:25:30,188
So you’re a subject of this investigation.
605
00:25:30,188 –> 00:25:32,828
Tell me what you know and I won’t put your ass in prison.
606
00:25:34,028 –> 00:25:37,948
So apparently McDonald and you know,
607
00:25:37,948 –> 00:25:41,268
the gang in her office are talking to school officials
608
00:25:41,268 –> 00:25:42,348
about what happened that day,
609
00:25:42,588 –> 00:25:44,668
and they signed proffer agreements.
610
00:25:45,388 –> 00:25:47,268
But the defense was never told.
611
00:25:47,708 –> 00:25:51,668
The jury wasn’t told is there’s something called the
612
00:25:51,668 –> 00:25:52,428
Brady Rule.
613
00:25:53,068 –> 00:25:56,108
Pete, is is that grounds for reversal?
614
00:25:56,188 –> 00:25:59,388
What is a proper agreement and is a grounds for reversal?
615
00:26:00,468 –> 00:26:01,668
OK, got two questions,
616
00:26:01,668 –> 00:26:03,788
but the first question is Brady.
617
00:26:04,268 –> 00:26:06,428
Before we get anywhere in Brady,
618
00:26:06,508 –> 00:26:09,548
there was withholding of certain evidence,
619
00:26:09,948 –> 00:26:12,588
critical evidence that wasn’t turned over to the other
620
00:26:13,308 –> 00:26:17,788
Let me make it very clear everything that the prosecutor
621
00:26:17,788 –> 00:26:19,708
gets, whether it is.
622
00:26:20,108 –> 00:26:23,828
to implicate the individual or to exculpitate the individual,
623
00:26:23,828 –> 00:26:25,388
which means to clear the individual,
624
00:26:25,628 –> 00:26:27,148
has to be turned over.
625
00:26:27,468 –> 00:26:31,468
The system was set up that everything that a prosecutor
626
00:26:31,468 –> 00:26:34,188
gets, whether it be video,
627
00:26:34,348 –> 00:26:36,148
audio, whether it be written,
628
00:26:36,148 –> 00:26:37,868
whether it be a body cam,
629
00:26:37,948 –> 00:26:40,588
digital, and there’s a ton of digital evidence now
630
00:26:40,588 –> 00:26:41,428
that we’re dealing with,
631
00:26:42,108 –> 00:26:42,908
anything,
632
00:26:43,228 –> 00:26:44,388
witness statements,
633
00:26:44,388 –> 00:26:47,908
statements of of anybody that’s in the case or outside
634
00:26:47,908 –> 00:26:48,348
the case,
635
00:26:48,748 –> 00:26:50,028
has to be turned over.
636
00:26:50,028 –> 00:26:53,308
Whatever was learned by the police has to be turned
637
00:26:53,308 –> 00:26:57,388
over for it to be fundamentally fair and due process
638
00:26:57,388 –> 00:26:59,348
accorded to the accused.
639
00:26:59,708 –> 00:27:05,068
If you hold back proffer agreements and you do that
640
00:27:05,068 –> 00:27:07,388
because you may not want to call those individuals
641
00:27:07,388 –> 00:27:09,548
or you won’t call those individuals in a case,
642
00:27:09,948 –> 00:27:12,028
that’s not justice.
643
00:27:12,268 –> 00:27:15,228
You turn it over and let the defense
644
00:27:16,108 –> 00:27:19,468
Do their job because they may want to call those individuals
645
00:27:19,628 –> 00:27:22,028
to see what they know and ask them,
646
00:27:22,028 –> 00:27:26,188
were you given anything in advance of your testimony?
647
00:27:26,988 –> 00:27:28,028
And to me,
648
00:27:28,508 –> 00:27:29,308
quite frankly,
649
00:27:29,708 –> 00:27:32,308
that’s information that was done as a result of the
650
00:27:32,308 –> 00:27:33,628
investigation of the case.
651
00:27:33,788 –> 00:27:35,148
It shall be turned over.
652
00:27:35,708 –> 00:27:38,988
That’s my professional opinion as a prosecutor.
653
00:27:39,388 –> 00:27:44,428
All evidence that is incorporated with the case shall
654
00:27:44,428 –> 00:27:45,868
be shared with the defense.
655
00:27:46,188 –> 00:27:47,468
So that you have open,
656
00:27:47,788 –> 00:27:49,468
honest and complete,
657
00:27:49,628 –> 00:27:53,148
the word is information in presenting the case.
658
00:27:53,308 –> 00:27:54,748
Remember, if you’re a juror,
659
00:27:55,628 –> 00:27:59,708
OK, and and and the school is trying to dodge its
660
00:27:59,708 –> 00:28:00,708
culpability here,
661
00:28:00,708 –> 00:28:06,148
right, its reaction to it and you’re a juror and the
662
00:28:06,148 –> 00:28:07,468
defense walks up and says,
663
00:28:07,468 –> 00:28:10,948
did you sign an agreement to testify with the prosecutor?
664
00:28:12,348 –> 00:28:12,988
Well, that’s.
665
00:28:13,708 –> 00:28:17,548
Any juror is going to weigh that in in in their deliberations
666
00:28:17,548 –> 00:28:19,548
and they weren’t given that.
667
00:28:22,028 –> 00:28:25,068
That’s something that is now going to be determined
668
00:28:25,068 –> 00:28:26,348
by the Court of Appeals,
669
00:28:26,708 –> 00:28:29,548
whether that was critical information and evidence
670
00:28:29,548 –> 00:28:32,268
that was incorporated in the investigation,
671
00:28:32,628 –> 00:28:35,388
which would include a we want to know everything teacher
672
00:28:35,788 –> 00:28:39,868
or administrator or principal or whoever.
673
00:28:40,588 –> 00:28:44,748
And offer them the opportunity to come clean about
674
00:28:44,828 –> 00:28:49,468
any and all information that led or was included up
675
00:28:49,468 –> 00:28:50,188
to the shooting.
676
00:28:50,668 –> 00:28:51,948
And in return,
677
00:28:51,948 –> 00:28:53,148
we won’t charge you.
678
00:28:53,148 –> 00:28:54,268
We won’t, you know.
679
00:28:54,628 –> 00:28:57,868
These are critical agreements that are offered by prosecutors
680
00:28:58,188 –> 00:28:59,228
to get to the truth.
681
00:28:59,788 –> 00:29:03,308
But it’s also part of the justice system to turn it
682
00:29:03,308 –> 00:29:06,428
over so that we have fundamental fairness.
683
00:29:07,228 –> 00:29:11,468
My God, the prosecution here is hiring media firms
684
00:29:11,468 –> 00:29:13,148
to shape this thing to the public,
685
00:29:13,308 –> 00:29:17,028
withholding critical information from the jury and
686
00:29:17,028 –> 00:29:17,628
the defense.
687
00:29:18,428 –> 00:29:21,628
I’m going to move.
688
00:29:22,428 –> 00:29:23,748
I heard Lance cheap in LA.
689
00:29:24,428 –> 00:29:24,948
And I can’t.
690
00:29:24,948 –> 00:29:26,028
I can’t sleep.
691
00:29:27,508 –> 00:29:27,948
I love you,
692
00:29:28,988 –> 00:29:29,868
I’m so sorry about.
693
00:29:29,948 –> 00:29:31,308
I’ll have something.
694
00:29:32,028 –> 00:29:34,828
I’m going to tell you how you like LA next week.
695
00:29:34,828 –> 00:29:36,588
Let me let me get the receipts.
696
00:29:36,748 –> 00:29:37,948
Let me get the receipts.
697
00:29:39,468 –> 00:29:40,268
Finally, Pete.
698
00:29:41,868 –> 00:29:44,988
Pete Hegseth was on Capitol Hill for his confirmation.
699
00:29:45,068 –> 00:29:45,828
Not confirmation.
700
00:29:46,108 –> 00:29:47,068
Would they be confirmation?
701
00:29:50,108 –> 00:29:52,988
And our newbie.
702
00:29:53,388 –> 00:29:56,988
United States Senator Alyssa Slotkin.
703
00:29:57,828 –> 00:29:59,788
You know, it’s her first time to grandstand in the
704
00:29:59,788 –> 00:30:00,588
public eye.
705
00:30:01,228 –> 00:30:05,868
And this is what she asked Hegseth,
706
00:30:06,268 –> 00:30:08,228
the nominee for Secretary of Defense,
707
00:30:08,228 –> 00:30:11,908
that no president has the right to use the uniform
708
00:30:11,908 –> 00:30:15,068
military in a way that violates the US Constitution
709
00:30:15,308 –> 00:30:18,388
and further taints the military as that apolitical
710
00:30:18,388 –> 00:30:19,708
institution that we all want,
711
00:30:21,388 –> 00:30:24,108
And our founders designed the system so that,
712
00:30:25,228 –> 00:30:25,548
you know,
713
00:30:25,548 –> 00:30:27,948
we had Posse Comitatus that we weren’t going to use
714
00:30:27,948 –> 00:30:31,828
active duty military inside the United States and
715
00:30:31,828 –> 00:30:34,588
make American citizens potentially scared of their
716
00:30:34,588 –> 00:30:35,388
own military.
717
00:30:35,388 –> 00:30:37,788
We went through our own experience with that with the
718
00:30:38,948 –> 00:30:43,228
So Donald Trump asked for the active duty 82nd Airborne
719
00:30:43,388 –> 00:30:45,468
to be deployed during that same time.
720
00:30:45,548 –> 00:30:49,068
Secretary Esper has written that he convinced him against
721
00:30:49,068 –> 00:30:49,868
that decision.
722
00:30:50,188 –> 00:30:53,148
If Donald Trump asked you to use the 82nd Airborne
723
00:30:53,148 –> 00:30:55,388
in law enforcement roles in Washington,
724
00:30:55,388 –> 00:30:58,508
DC, would you also convince him otherwise?
725
00:31:00,268 –> 00:31:01,868
So let me make a point.
726
00:31:01,868 –> 00:31:03,388
You’re a man of a certain age,
727
00:31:03,708 –> 00:31:06,668
Do you remember 1967,
728
00:31:06,668 –> 00:31:11,948
the civil unrest and LBJ called in the 82nd Airborne
729
00:31:11,948 –> 00:31:13,548
and the 101st Airborne?
730
00:31:13,628 –> 00:31:16,108
5000 of them fresh back from Vietnam.
731
00:31:16,108 –> 00:31:16,748
Do you remember that,
732
00:31:18,068 –> 00:31:19,588
I was less than 10 years old.
733
00:31:20,988 –> 00:31:30,308
In 1943, FDR sent in 6000 US servicemen to quell the
734
00:31:30,308 –> 00:31:31,308
civil unrest.
735
00:31:31,708 –> 00:31:34,028
And I’ll go back to 1863,
736
00:31:34,108 –> 00:31:39,428
which was before the Posse Quomitatus Act of 1870s,
737
00:31:39,428 –> 00:31:39,948
I believe,
738
00:31:40,228 –> 00:31:42,908
which was a reconstruction problem,
739
00:31:44,348 –> 00:31:48,428
In 1863, Detroit had civil unrest.
740
00:31:50,268 –> 00:31:52,268
And the United States military occupied Detroit.
741
00:31:52,268 –> 00:31:56,108
So Detroit is the only United States city that was
742
00:31:56,108 –> 00:31:58,828
occupied three times by the United States Army,
743
00:31:59,068 –> 00:32:01,788
all of them during wartime and all of them having
744
00:32:01,788 –> 00:32:03,148
to do with racial strife.
745
00:32:03,828 –> 00:32:07,268
I’m looking at a senator here that’s supposed to represent
746
00:32:07,268 –> 00:32:09,308
us and doesn’t know anything about us.
747
00:32:12,268 –> 00:32:13,388
What do I make of it?
748
00:32:13,468 –> 00:32:14,828
Well, I’ll tell you right now,
749
00:32:14,988 –> 00:32:15,788
first of all.
750
00:32:16,748 –> 00:32:18,588
They’re going to go ahead and they’re going to do,
751
00:32:18,588 –> 00:32:22,348
I call it an autopsy on everyone that’s been nominated.
752
00:32:22,988 –> 00:32:24,268
And I like his name,
753
00:32:24,268 –> 00:32:26,588
Pete, because it reminds me so much of me.
754
00:32:27,148 –> 00:32:28,748
But the defense secretary,
755
00:32:28,748 –> 00:32:30,028
the same hair product,
756
00:32:30,788 –> 00:32:31,788
but the defense,
757
00:32:31,788 –> 00:32:32,828
yeah, I like the product.
758
00:32:32,828 –> 00:32:33,628
It works for me.
759
00:32:33,908 –> 00:32:38,428
But the the defense secretary is a job that people
760
00:32:38,428 –> 00:32:41,308
are going to be scrutinizing any actions that the
761
00:32:41,308 –> 00:32:42,348
president takes.
762
00:32:42,908 –> 00:32:43,748
And you know,
763
00:32:43,788 –> 00:32:45,428
we have a checks and balance system.
764
00:32:45,428 –> 00:32:46,108
I mean, we have.
765
00:32:46,748 –> 00:32:48,188
A trifecta,
766
00:32:48,268 –> 00:32:48,988
I call it,
767
00:32:49,708 –> 00:32:54,228
that the the executive branch can only act most of
768
00:32:54,228 –> 00:32:54,748
the time,
769
00:32:54,988 –> 00:32:55,668
not all the time.
770
00:32:55,668 –> 00:32:58,508
There’s times where the executive can act unilaterally
771
00:32:58,988 –> 00:33:01,708
with the assistance of the legislative branches which
772
00:33:01,708 –> 00:33:03,468
which the Senator Slackin is in.
773
00:33:03,948 –> 00:33:07,148
So to ask the question about what the what the president
774
00:33:07,148 –> 00:33:10,428
can and cannot do and whether or not the president
775
00:33:10,428 –> 00:33:11,628
should have that authority,
776
00:33:12,428 –> 00:33:14,988
reread some of those constitutional.
777
00:33:16,988 –> 00:33:19,228
You know, statements that are put in there by,
778
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like she said,
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00:33:19,868 –> 00:33:20,748
our founders.
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00:33:21,228 –> 00:33:24,868
It was to check and balance the executive branch so
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00:33:24,868 –> 00:33:26,828
that we wouldn’t have dictatorship.
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00:33:27,388 –> 00:33:30,828
And there has to be somebody in charge who is going
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to mobilize troops,
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00:33:32,988 –> 00:33:33,708
if you will,
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00:33:33,788 –> 00:33:36,828
at a time when this country needs it most for its
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00:33:36,908 –> 00:33:38,028
own protection.
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00:33:38,908 –> 00:33:44,268
So I get, I understand we want to terrorize sometimes
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some of these nominees.
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And do the autopsy.
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00:33:47,508 –> 00:33:50,828
But let’s be fair with the questions and let’s be fair
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with the responses before we go ahead and jump to
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conclusions.
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00:33:56,188 –> 00:33:56,828
Well, yeah,
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00:33:57,308 –> 00:34:00,188
look, there’s the Insurrection Act.
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00:34:00,268 –> 00:34:02,708
You know, during during back to LA,
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00:34:02,708 –> 00:34:04,108
during the Rodney King riots,
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00:34:04,108 –> 00:34:05,388
the Marines were called in.
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00:34:06,188 –> 00:34:06,748
I mean, no,
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no, you’re shit.
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00:34:07,628 –> 00:34:10,588
You’re you’re supposed to be the big kahuna and you’re
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00:34:10,588 –> 00:34:12,188
dumb, dumb.
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00:34:12,268 –> 00:34:14,988
So here’s what the questions.
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00:34:15,268 –> 00:34:16,428
That need to be asked.
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00:34:17,788 –> 00:34:19,628
Recruiting is down.
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00:34:19,868 –> 00:34:21,868
What a readiness is down.
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00:34:21,948 –> 00:34:26,108
I mean our own joint committee says we we are not prepared
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00:34:26,108 –> 00:34:27,708
to fight a war with China or Russia.
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00:34:27,868 –> 00:34:30,908
We got drones flying around and we don’t know where
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00:34:30,908 –> 00:34:33,068
the fuck they came from apparently.
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00:34:33,228 –> 00:34:37,948
But we’re talking about the 82nd Airborne drinking
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00:34:37,948 –> 00:34:38,988
your past wives,
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00:34:38,988 –> 00:34:40,348
DEII mean.
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00:34:43,188 –> 00:34:44,668
It’s almost like it’s a TV show.
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00:34:44,748 –> 00:34:47,068
It’s almost like it’s the Oakland County Prosecutor’s
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00:34:48,188 –> 00:34:49,828
Easy, Charlie Martin.
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00:34:50,108 –> 00:34:52,188
Before we get off the tracks again,
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00:34:52,668 –> 00:34:53,948
let’s look at this.
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00:34:54,748 –> 00:34:56,028
This is her first time,
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00:34:56,028 –> 00:34:59,388
I think, in the Senate and a Senate hearing.
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00:35:00,188 –> 00:35:03,068
However, she did spend some time in Congress.
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00:35:03,788 –> 00:35:07,668
And if we know anything about our government,
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00:35:07,788 –> 00:35:10,588
I know that there’s AIDS as well as.
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Chiefs of staff that can give her the tools that are
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necessary to educate oneself.
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00:35:16,788 –> 00:35:19,708
When I was in the state Senate as well as the House
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here in Michigan,
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00:35:21,228 –> 00:35:24,748
I had the best of the best to give me information
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00:35:24,748 –> 00:35:30,268
to make me at least educated to come out with what
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00:35:30,268 –> 00:35:33,388
I believe is fairness to get the question.
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00:35:33,948 –> 00:35:35,308
I don’t like unfair questions.
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00:35:35,308 –> 00:35:38,148
I don’t like yes or no on certain things because it
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00:35:38,148 –> 00:35:38,988
doesn’t give.
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00:35:39,388 –> 00:35:43,428
The individual a chance to actually fully explain where
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00:35:43,428 –> 00:35:44,188
they’re coming from.
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00:35:44,508 –> 00:35:45,548
And as a result,
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00:35:45,868 –> 00:35:48,668
that may prejudice their confirmation.
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00:35:48,748 –> 00:35:50,028
And I don’t think that that’s fair.
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00:35:50,028 –> 00:35:52,548
I really don’t let them articulate what they need to
839
00:35:52,548 –> 00:35:54,508
say and how they want to say it.
840
00:35:54,908 –> 00:35:58,188
Well, if she wants to position herself as a a moderate,
841
00:35:58,908 –> 00:36:00,428
who’s a guy from Pennsylvania?
842
00:36:00,428 –> 00:36:03,348
From Pennsylvania.
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00:36:04,428 –> 00:36:04,908
Fetterman.
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00:36:05,628 –> 00:36:07,628
She wants to be a Fetterman of Michigan.
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00:36:07,668 –> 00:36:08,908
I mean, I I’m looking at.
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00:36:09,468 –> 00:36:11,788
Well, I gotta say,
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00:36:11,788 –> 00:36:12,348
Pete, Pete,
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00:36:12,348 –> 00:36:12,708
you’re right.
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00:36:12,708 –> 00:36:15,708
The yes or no questions are bullshit because it allows
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00:36:15,868 –> 00:36:17,388
0 nuance on a hypothetical.
851
00:36:17,388 –> 00:36:19,068
It’s like you’re you can’t answer that.
852
00:36:19,388 –> 00:36:20,388
It’s not a fair question.
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00:36:20,388 –> 00:36:21,788
So I’m left with her record.
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00:36:21,948 –> 00:36:24,348
You know, you you were silent about Afghanistan.
855
00:36:24,348 –> 00:36:26,148
You you voted for the Inflation Act.
856
00:36:26,148 –> 00:36:27,148
I’m looking at all of it.
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00:36:27,388 –> 00:36:28,028
And you know,
858
00:36:28,508 –> 00:36:30,348
there’s a reason she had to go on the listening tour,
859
00:36:31,788 –> 00:36:34,908
Because she never voted here till she moved back.
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00:36:36,028 –> 00:36:37,068
To run for Congress,
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00:36:37,868 –> 00:36:39,308
We we put it on the show.
862
00:36:39,308 –> 00:36:43,908
John McCain would not let her nomination as Assistant
863
00:36:43,908 –> 00:36:48,188
Secretary of Defense through called a completely unqualified.
864
00:36:48,348 –> 00:36:50,308
You know who else he called completely unqualified?
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00:36:50,668 –> 00:36:51,468
Antony Blinken,
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00:36:53,228 –> 00:36:56,268
And I think he’s proven he’s utterly incompetent.
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00:36:56,908 –> 00:36:58,988
I just want to be ready.
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00:37:01,068 –> 00:37:02,188
Detroit not to flood,
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00:37:02,348 –> 00:37:03,628
LA not to burn,
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00:37:03,868 –> 00:37:04,948
the border to be closed.
871
00:37:04,948 –> 00:37:08,028
This this isn’t any radical right wing stuff.
872
00:37:08,828 –> 00:37:12,588
This is just regular people in a regular place wanting
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00:37:12,588 –> 00:37:13,388
regular things.
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00:37:13,868 –> 00:37:17,828
And I was shown talking points in grandstanding yesterday.
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00:37:17,948 –> 00:37:19,308
That’s all I’m going to say.
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00:37:19,668 –> 00:37:21,788
That’s all I got to do today cause I’m getting real
877
00:37:22,508 –> 00:37:23,468
Pete Lacito,
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00:37:24,268 –> 00:37:26,028
Macomb County prosecutor,
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00:37:26,348 –> 00:37:27,828
maybe the next US Attorney,
880
00:37:27,828 –> 00:37:29,548
the Eastern District of Michigan.
881
00:37:29,948 –> 00:37:31,628
Maybe the next attorney general.
882
00:37:31,708 –> 00:37:32,428
I don’t know.
883
00:37:32,908 –> 00:37:33,868
We shall see.
884
00:37:34,188 –> 00:37:34,948
Keep fighting the fight,
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00:37:35,548 –> 00:37:36,348
Thanks for being on.
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00:37:36,548 –> 00:37:37,788
Listen, guys,
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00:37:38,908 –> 00:37:40,348
See you later and take care,
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00:37:41,508 –> 00:37:41,988
Next week.
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00:37:41,988 –> 00:37:42,748
We’ll see y’all.
