Robert Kennedy Sr once said, “We look not for a slavish commitment to the party from the people, but a moral commitment to the people from the party.”
Think about that. That’s long gone.
Once the party of free speech, the Democrats are now the party of censorship and coercion. Kennedy’s Democrats were anti-war.
Harris’s Democrats are NeoCon warmongers. Her vice president Tim Walz is a war dodger.
Once the party of first responders and physical laborers, the Democrats are now the party of big tech, big banks and Wall Street.
Once the party of voting rights and fair elections, the Democrats are now the party of lawfare and coronation by corporate donors by unknown members of the party’s central committee.
As for Republicans, Donald Trump is a billionaire backed by billionaires who mimic the pain of working people while lining their pockets.
You’re telling me Ted Cruz is a populist?
Runaway spending and tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations didn’t help Main Street, it helped Wall Street.
That’s your Republican party.
Nicole Shanahan, Bobby Kennedy Junior’s running mate has floated the idea that the Dems are so corrupt that they forced them out of the race to run as independents and they may now push their support towards Trump.
That’s interesting. So that leaves us with two choices.
Now remember the lesser of two evils, the old trope goes.
Except you should remember, the lesser of two evils is still evil.
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Transcript:
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Robert Kennedy Senior once said, we look not for a slavish commitment to the party from the people, but a moral commitment to the people from the party. Think about that. That’s long gone. Once the party of free speech, the Democrats are now the party of censorship and coercion. Kennedy’s Democrats were anti-war Harris’s Democrats are NeoCon war mongers. Her vice president Tim Walls is a war dodger. Once the party of first responders and physical laborers, the Democrats are now the party of big tech, big banks and Wall Street. Once the party of voting rights and fair elections, the Democrats are now the party of law, fair and coronation by corporate donors, by unknown members of the party’s central committee. As for Republicans, Trump is a billionaire backed by billionaires who mimic the pain of working people while lining their pockets. You’re telling me Ted Cruz is a populist runaway spending and tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations didn’t help Main Street, it helped Wall Street. That’s your Republican party. Nicole Shanahan, Bobby Kennedy Junior’s running mate has floated the idea that the Dems are so corrupt that they forced them out of the race as independence and that they may now push their support towards Trump. That’s interesting. So that leaves us with two choices. Now remember the lesser of two evils, the old trope goes, except you should remember, the lesser of two evils is still evil.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Live from downtown Detroit. It’s the no bullshit news hour with my main man, Charlie and Karen Dub
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Sister Breakiness double bullshit, double more bullshit.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That gave you goose pimples real.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
The ending was great and the whole commentary is great because it’s true. It don’t matter who we got, they all evil
Speaker 5 (02:23):
And we lose. That’s the thing we lose and people don’t understand that. If you just take a minute and look back, what have we gotten? Nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Peanuts. Peanuts. So you know what? Look, the Democrats have run Washington for 12 in the last 16 years and even those four years when the Republicans had control of Washington, it was Russiagate Lawfare. So
(02:53):
We’re spinning in the toilet and with the party, neither party has ideas and now you look at Kamala Harris won’t give an interview, won’t lay anything out. Cribbing Trump’s ideas like no tax on tips. I don’t know how we balance federal budget with no tax on tips. You work, you should get tax, right? If we’re all going to get taxed child tax credit, you have a kid, they send you a check, but then she finally comes out with it and it gets universally panned of food’s too high. So we’re going to have price controls. If the government comes in and sees you charge too much for food, they’re going to find you. Whatever they’re going to do, throw you in. I don’t know what the plan is. There is no real plan and then the $25,000 for a down payment on a house. Now all they’re going to do is take that 25 grand and add it to the price of the house and it’s just, it’s giving the owner
Speaker 5 (03:52):
That Duggan is taking credit for, he said that they’re duplicating that Kamala Harris is duplicating his model for the creation of affordable housing in Detroit that has now become part of the
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Compensation. These are liar. What affordable housing,
Speaker 4 (04:07):
First of all, as a poor person, where in the hell am I going to get $25,000 to put on a house?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
You’re going to get from the government that doesn’t have it.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Okay,
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But then that means you’re not a good credit risk, right? That means you don’t have 25,000 at all. So what if you go fall behind on your mortgage? What’s that mean? In a year,
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I lost a house that I couldn’t afford to get in the first place.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
We tried that back at the turn of the century. Remember like the federal government, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack are going to back insurance for subprime borrowers. It collapsed. Wall Street took advantage of it. You know what I mean? Everybody’s getting a house and then we’re left here now today, right now, that consequence, we borrowed trillions every year since 2008 to keep this rotten economy going. We’ve been, I say minimum a deep recession for 15 years. So anyway, Kamala Harris, it’s getting panned as basically communism, communism. So I’m like communistic economic plans. Who would better know about communistic economy than our old friend? Professor Richard D. Wolfe, a professor of economics emeritus from the University of Massachusetts author now out now of the book Understanding Capitalism. So basically it’s like Shakespeare. You can’t understand Shakespeare, so they make Shakespeare in love with Gwyneth Paltrow. Okay? So basically what Richard’s written here is dos copy towel for dummies.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
So like cliff notes,
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yes. Accessibility. Richard has been called by the New York Times, the preeminent American Marxist economist. Good to see you again, rich.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Good to see you Charlie. And I loved your introduction. I’d love to be able to comment on it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Go with that.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Alright, I’m going to be a teacher. I am a professor. I’ve done that all my life. So allow me to be a teacher just for a couple of minutes. I love particularly attacking Kamala Harris for being a communist, which means you don’t know what the word means because otherwise you might as well call her a martian or something else that you made up last night when you were drinking too much. Let me explain. 38 out of the 50 states of the United States already have laws on the books that limit price gouging. It’s not a new idea, it’s not a communist idea. It’s something people do and demand when the employers of this country jack up the prices taking advantage of whatever the situation is to try to make a fast extra buck and they’re so out of control and they’ve been that way for many years that governments across this country, 38 out of 50 states now have on the books and many of them have had it on the books for decades, laws against it.
(07:23):
I’ll give you a couple of examples. During the hurricanes in Louisiana, people who make bottled water jack up the price stores that sell bottled water jack up the price. Why? Because the regular water system is polluted because of the flooding and stuff like that, and people have to have a water. It’s for life. And so they’ll pay five bucks for a little bottle of water. They hope is clean and safe. I won’t even go into what people will do to produce tainted water and sell it as if it were pure. So there are laws on the books in Louisiana about that right now. I’ll give you another example. In the courts of Florida, there are all kinds of cases, and I picked Florida because it’s got a rightwing Republican governor, but he is pursuing people who gouge during various climate problems or hot temperatures and took advantage of people and jacked up the prices of all kinds of things, which that Republican, Mr. DeSantis took offense at the people of Florida demanded it. They have done that before and so they have law cases going against the employers who raised the prices to take advantage of a difficult situation people were in. That’s as old as the United States for Republicans to call Kamala Harris a communist because she has the idea. We ought to do that now that we’re in a bad inflation and have been in one for a couple of years, just shows how ignorant so many of those folks are.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Let me get ignorant then. Okay, so you’re talking about natural disasters, hurricanes, flooding, forest fires, but when we look at the price of food on average, the grocery chains that you can look up their stock price or whatever, they’re margin, they’re profit margin. It’s 2%. What I look at from the government is an emergency they created because when you’re hostile to gasoline and diesel, right, the price goes up. That’s up 50%. When you are a war mongering party and you’re enticing or whatever happened in Russia, Ukraine, over 50% of the world’s fertilizer is coming from a war zone. So the political decisions they’re making about fossil fuels and Putin and war and global strategy has led to the fact that people can more and more afford less and less food. You agree with that?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
That’s part of this story. Absolutely. That’s part
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Story. You give me a B on that. Professor do I get a B?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
I give you a B. Thank you. Lemme give you a bigger part of it. Lemme give you a bigger part of the story. We had a terrible pandemic. You know all about that. It lasted two or three years. During that time, almost half the American working class lost their job. Some only for a few weeks, some for many, many months and even a couple of years. One of the things that had to be done to save this economy from the worst depression it would’ve ever had even worse than the 1930s was that the government came in as you well know and pumped tons of money, gave money to corporations, gave money to businesses, gave unemployed people extra money in their unemployment check. All of that flooded the economy with money. And when you have extra money in the economy like that, one of the things every employer knows is I’ve got two choices now.
(11:10):
My customers got more money in their pocket because of all this pandemic, government larges. I got two choices. I can either raise the prices of what I have to sell because I now know they got the money in their wallet to pay for it, or I can soak up that extra money they have by ordering more goods and selling them more without raising the price. But what’s the most profitable route the employer chooses? The first one. It’s quicker, it’s easier, it’s less risky. Jack up the price. The employers, the reason we have an inflation after the pandemic is because employers saw an opportunity doesn’t come along that often to jack the price. That’s why eggs cost 50% more than they used to. That’s why it’s not because the chicken having a harder time laying the egg. This is about a maneuver,
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But it was, I know egg production was down. You could say corporations brought it down purposely, but there was AV and flu,
Speaker 5 (12:15):
But they talked about the supply chain disruption and all those other factors. But even though those have been corrected or restored,
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I know you’re going to make a point. I want to throw this in before That’s okay. Go ahead. Before the regular person question you’re going to ask, I got to be right. When Biden came in in April of 2021 and we had that huge $2 trillion stimulus package, I watched it, Richard, I watched it. Everybody got the check, everybody went to the keyboard, everybody went, I want it, I want it, I want it. And we all went, click, click, click, click. In China, they put it all on the boats all at once. It got to the port of la there weren’t enough guys at the port of LA to take the shit off. They called it supply chain, fuck up the train never crashed. It was we all wanted basically free shit all at once and the price went up. We all wanted it and prices never go down, Karen.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Right, and that’s what I was saying, that the prices have not adjusted based on the return to any degree of normalcy.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So you
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Let me put on my teacher hat again. Okay, just for a moment. This
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Guy’s talking down to me. I don’t want to be
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Reprimanded.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I’m scared to speak. I know he’s got a book on economics all of a sudden,
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Listen, don’t worry, there are no grades, so you don’t have to worry. You pass. In any case,
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Because I’m an American Richard and I don’t really care about learning it. What’s my grade professor? But go ahead. I apologize.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Exactly. I love this stuff about the supply chain. I mean please, that’s right up there with the tooth fairy and Rudolph, the redose reindeer. It’s okay if you’re five years old, but if you are an adult, you shouldn’t be playing with those concepts anymore. They’re not appropriate. Let me explain. Every major business in this country, sizable business has something called the purchasing department typically run by a purchasing manager or a purchasing executive. The job of that person and all the people working with him or her and the purchasing department who get fat salaries is to make sure that if there’s an interruption of any kind with anything that is an input to the business, what we nowadays fan supply call the supply chain. It’s the job of the purchasing department to have a plan B, a plan C to do it. If in some, for example, so if there’s a big problem, some input, let’s say you’re a shoemaker and the leather isn’t arriving at the warehouse to be worked up into shoes, the CEO calls in the purchasing manager and says to the purchasing manner, what the hell’s going on here?
(15:10):
We don’t have the leather that we need plus whatever else. If the purchasing manager turns around and says to the CEO, well sir, there are supply chain problems, he’ll be fired. That’s his job is to figure out in advance what you do. All that happened, my fellow Americans, is that the corporations who took advantage of the pandemic layout to jack up the prices, they had a chance to, didn’t want to be the honest people they could have been and said that’s what we just did. We raised the prices to make more profits, which by the way, their profits show, they needed to come up with somebody else to blame because they wanted all, they want to be able to have more profits. They want to be able to raise the price to get ’em, and they don’t want anyone mad at them for doing what they’re doing. So they look at somebody else. It’s just a scapegoat yell supply chain. What a wonderful idea. Who the hell knows what that is or where it is or who it, but it’s not the employer. It’s not the actual guy who raised the price. Oh no, they walk away clean. No flies on them. We’re all looking at who the supply chain. It’s nonsense. So tj, every time we have a supply chain problem, let
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Ask you a quick question, Richard, the
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Supply chain
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Solution, shouldn’t the politicians now be really addressing the corporations and companies that took advantage of this? Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
But aren’t they the same ones that donate to their campaigns?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Oh wow. Exactly.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
And that’s why they don’t,
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We got shit like housing. We don’t have enough housing interest rates. Nobody ever talks about the fat that we printed so much money, which makes inflation go up. You got more money floating out there, the money’s worth less, so it’s going to cost more to get stuff. We got to raise interest rates. Therefore people that build houses, it’s too expensive to get the inputs to build the houses instead of 3% for the material. It just went up. Your financing charges are seven, 8%. You’re not going to build shit Richard deficit, spending deficit spending. They say that the gross domestic product is growing, but I contend the only reason the economy is growing is because the amount of money the government is borrowing to keep the economy floating is growing. Do you believe that the economic growth is fake?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Am I a communist?
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Well, you might be if people find Kamala Harris a communist or they certainly can do the same job on you.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I’m actually, here’s a joke. I’m actually closer to that than either you or she is and I don’t get that problem.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
So Richard, let’s talk a little bit about the impact that this is all having on just the average American because we are in the middle of an election season and we’re hearing two competing conflicting rather messages in terms of the impact that all this is having on going to the grocery store, going to the gas station. I mean, how should consumers just listen to this objectively and compare it to how they live on a day-to-day basis?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Well, I’m afraid, look, I believe there are important differences between the Republicans and the Democrats, but that’s not what we’re discussing here. But I don’t want to be understood as one of the folks who says, well, it’s all the same. I don’t believe that. I really don’t. But having said that, when it comes to economics, I think Charlie is mostly right. The differences are pretty small. The fact of the matter is that if I were asked what are the two most important problems of the American economy, and look, I’ve been teaching this for 50 years, I’ve been asked this question by my students by thousands, literally thousands of them. The two biggest problems are the gap between rich and poor, which has gotten worse over the last 40 years without interruption across Republican and democratic presidents, Republican and democratic congresses. Mr. Trump didn’t make that problem go away, Mr.
(19:43):
Biden didn’t do it either, and you don’t even hear about it. And while I understand we shouldn’t tax tips, I get the idea, but that’s not going to say, that’s like passing a person begging on the street who’s really in trouble and reaching into your pocket and giving that person a nickel, right? That’s insulting. That’s not only not responsive, that’s a kind of insult. We are not going to solve the problems of inequality in this society, which are all around us by not tip my not taxing tipping even though I’m in favor of that and of course all of that kind of stuff. But to give you just one concreteness, the last time we raised the minimum wage in this country, the federal minimum wage that covers all 330 million of us in this country was in 2009. That’s when it was set at $7 and 25 cents an hour, which is what it is as I’m talking to you right now. That’s 15 years. Every one of which prices went up in this country, sometimes by a little, sometimes by a lot, but every year the prices went up and every year we said to the poorest people among us, you keep getting the same $7 and 25 cents minimum,
Speaker 5 (21:06):
But isn’t that the basis of this country economically? I mean that those without sustain those who have,
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Yes, and as long as you do that, you get the anger, the bitterness, the rage, and it may not build up for a while, but don’t be fooled. It’s building up its head of steam right below the surface and then it blows and we all wonder, gee, why did it explode? Well, it’s because we didn’t deal with that problem and we allowed both parties to look the other way. Here’s the second one. We live in a capitalist system. Part of why I wrote the book that has as one of its qualities, deep instability, we’re coming off an inflation and what’s coming next down the pike, what everybody’s talking about in the Wall Street Journal of the Financial Times, the recession, and you know what we had before the inflation, another recession.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Let me jump in, let me jump in. We’ve always been in a recession. It’s been called government deficit spending. If you take that out of gross domestic product, the economy’s been shrinking year after year. Now I’m looking at both of these dummy parties, okay, look, Trump says drill, baby drill. If you nationalize the profits of the top 15 oil companies operating in the United States, that’d be $150 billion. The deficit is 1.6 trillion. If all of that gasoline brought down prices to drive it to the grocery store, if inflation disappeared, that’s 750 billion. You’re still not getting there. It’s fake now. It’s going to collapse or papering over the mag. It’s just get ready for it. Having said that, Richard, we said we get you out of here because on a very capitalistic note, he’s got to be on another TV show to pimp his new book, which is called Understanding Capitalism. Give the audience before you go, Richard, a quick 45 second synopsis of what your latest book is.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Okay, before I do that, let me offer, we’ll have a program on deficits. Let’s talk about it. It’s worth it. The point of the book is to say a lot of what you’ve heard about capitalism is not true and you ought to be able to hear not just the cheerleading for it, which both parties do, but a serious critical assessment. That’s what this book will offer you. Very hard to get that and it’s all collected here in a way that’s easily digestible. That’s why I wrote the
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Book and where can you get it at the People’s Co-op in Ann Arbor?
Speaker 6 (23:48):
No. The easiest way is to go to our website, democracy at Work Info all one word, democracy at Work Info. It’ll tell you exactly how to get the book.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
And let me just tell the listeners of very bright people, independent minded, even if you think, look, even if you’re like, oh, I don’t read comm shit, Marxism is the best critic, the best critical analysis of capitalism that there is. There’s no doubt about it. I studied in college the solution. I’m not so sure you end up in a train going to Siberia. But having said that, I admire Richard. He’s a really smart guy. I mean, the problems are deep vote, vote your conscience, and you only got two choices. It’s still evil to me, Richard. I know you got to go. Good luck with the book and I’ll talk to you later today.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Thank you, Charlie, and thank you for having the kind of program that opens these questions up. That’s a real service and I’m proud to be part of it,
Speaker 1 (24:50):
My man. Okay, now let’s do a little capitalism. Here’s a word from our sponsors. We’ll be back after this
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Speaker 1 (25:31):
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Speaker 1 (28:33):
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Speaker 5 (28:35):
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Speaker 1 (28:45):
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Speaker 5 (29:04):
I’m not going to Montego Bay, but this is the thing. Indiana, no, Jamaica, but my thing is the quality. Because we’ve talked a lot on this show about the quality of, or the lack of quality in a lot of the senior residences, and I think that when people have worked all their lives, they’ve taken care of their families, they’ve taken care of their communities, they deserve respectable, comfortable, safe,
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Friendly. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah, I do. That’s something that resonates with
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Me. Not on a major street with a huge parking lot, but a home. Yeah, I mean that’s a big difference. It is. Okay. We have our man on the street in Chicago at the Democratic Convention. He’s hanging out with the Hamas asshole, keeping an eye on the protestors. But before we go to him, didn’t Professor Wolf kind of remind you of Tim Malls, the vice presidential candidate? I mean a little bit, but my thing with walls is like what’s what the minstrel white guy show? Right? But
Speaker 5 (30:07):
You got to have one.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I never heard anything but Pepper and Hey, have you tried corn nuts? And gee, I don’t know how to tie my shoes. He’s like, it’s like he’s playing Rochester to Jack Benny, right? He’s Kamala Harris’s, Rochester. It’s that same old shit we were looking at 50 years ago in reverse,
Speaker 5 (30:26):
But everybody tries to like, okay, let’s get as much of the commonalities from the voter race that we can in a person. And so you check this box, this box, let’s have somebody to check this box. Hey, we can relate to everybody and that’s unrealistic and unnecessary. Well,
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I’m just saying we live in Michigan. It’s not too far from Minnesota. You know what I mean? Right. How many white guys you know like that hold, never heard of hot Sauce. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
No, they don’t exist like that no more. Everybody love French.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
How many white guys do you know? Red?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Well, I know one half, one. That’s me.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
So wait a minute,
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Then of course Mark, and then with
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Charlie’s leader,
Speaker 4 (31:07):
You like more than me, Charlie
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Gz. Can we be serious for a minute? You can’t face anybody. It’s just a white guy. Tacos.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
He also needs to call Luke. I mean, the guy has no investments at that age.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
He said he has no investments.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
Oh yeah. No, his net worth is like a hundred grand.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
That’s another thing. He’s a economy he loves. I don’t believe that socialism is being friendly and
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I want to check his
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Mattress. Maybe he should get Wolf’s book. He should get W’s book.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I don’t believe that. I mean, that’s part of the bs. Hey, see, I’m struggling. We talked about that before. Charlie Hall. All these politicians want to act like they know that the struggle, they’re down with the people now.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I think they should just change the whole election system, just let ’em beat each other to death, and then whoever comes out the winner, that’s who our new president is for
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Four years. They have changed a whole election system. It’s all going to be a pageant made for TV concerts. We’re not voting for anybody. How fucking powerful are the party elites where you can take out the president of the United States who was actually the nominee of the party and the party under Biden locked everybody else out. We don’t like it. What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Yeah, people have overlooked that. But hey, so much for democracy
Speaker 1 (32:30):
And you would think protestors, liberal protestors, democratic protestors, far left protestors. These would be some of the other things they’re asking for. Because if you look at Kamala Harris’s Middle East strategy, it’s just kind of more of the same gobbledygook, right? Lip service send bombs, and I don’t really believe that these protesters heart is really in it. So we’re with Mitch Miller, reporter with the Michigan and Joiner friend of the show. He’s out there. Hey, how you doing, Mitch?
Speaker 9 (33:02):
Good. How are you guys doing? Good,
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Man. Where the fuck are you? It looks like you’re in Peoria.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Yeah, I’m right outside the United Center where the DNC is taking place. It’s still pretty early. We’re having some people come in, but the protest hasn’t started in earnest yet. It’ll probably take until later this afternoon until they come out again.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
So it’s banker’s hours. There’s no sit-ins, no tents, no early risers. It’s a parking lot, bro. It’s the millennia major protesting.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
People protest only after lunch.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
You’ve been there a couple of days. What have you seen?
Speaker 9 (33:42):
Yeah, so right where I am now is the main entrance. There’s a bit of a fortress of fencing and road closures to get in. It’s about, I would say half a mile to actually get into the building. The protests have concentrated in two nearby parks. One is Union Park and the other is 5 78 Park. On the first day, the protests were largely pro-Palestinian protesters, and they were brought in briefly near the entrance and then shuttled back towards the park. This is sort of typical left of center protest. They’re unhappy with the rhetoric of the Democratic party, which purports to support social justice and humanitarian ideals. They see this as duplicitous and more or less, they’re angry about the Democratic party’s complicity in what they say is a genocide, what I’ve heard referred to as the Kamala cost.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
That’s a new one.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Yeah. On the second day, things were a little bit more varied outside the entrance here, you had Kita, we had the kind of placard and megaphone Christ Proselytizers screaming about redemption and renunciation. There was a guy dressed up as the January 6th Viking, so yesterday it was more the kind of American circus of anger and less of the Palestinian protestors, which were here on the previous days. And
Speaker 1 (35:48):
So the Palestinian contingent, they kind of faded away. Do you think their hearts are really in it?
Speaker 9 (35:59):
No. I would say their hearts are in it. They’ve had less of a presence here yesterday than the day before. I’m not too sure how it’s all being organized, but they do start off in the two parks and that’s where they spend most of their time, more or less speaking to each other. There are some, I was going to say,
Speaker 5 (36:24):
If they’re in the park and they’re removed from the immediate DNC footprint, who’s really seeing it, but wasn’t that part of the strategy that Chicago took? They asked people that worked in the immediate area don’t show up for work and everything is kept away. I mean, what’s the impact of them in the park
Speaker 1 (36:42):
And what’s the plan? Are you hearing anything? Are they going to storm the temple or not?
Speaker 9 (36:48):
No, I think it’s going to be fairly pacified. I could be wrong and someone could show up and demonstrate a little bit of a subversion, but I haven’t seen anything like that. So far. There’s been a little jostling, and probably the most animosity or hostility I’ve seen is between pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian protestors who sort of just enter into, but nothing too exciting.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
There you go, disputation. I like that. Let me ask you, in the pro-Palestine contingent, what’s the sort of ethnic breakdown of the group?
Speaker 9 (37:32):
Well, you do have, I mean, I’m not too sure what the percentages are. There are a conspicuous number of Middle Eastern or brown people, and then quite a few sort of younger women. The typical social justice rotary white woman to support the
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Boss white woman with the complaints.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
And the good handbags.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
He’s so tactful. Yes.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yes. He said yes. Okay. Well, listen, man, listen, we got to wrap it up, but I’m worried for you there. Okay, listen, make sure you don’t get hit by the subway train. Don’t eat too much fast food. Okay? Wear sensible shoes.
Speaker 9 (38:27):
Yeah. Yesterday I went to visit the Natural History Museum, and I got on the subway after, and everyone was smoking blunts on the subway, and I thought, why did I pay $30 to go to the Natural History Museum? I got an entire ecosystem on the subway right now.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
This guy needs a microphone, right? American Circus of Anger. I like that.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Okay. All right. Listen, Mitch, thank you for that sating report.
Speaker 9 (38:57):
I’ll document the mental illness for you guys. All right, take care.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Okay, Chicago’s on fire. In a blaze of apathy, there goes our man in sensible shoes, power the people. All right. That’s it for the program. Any last thoughts you do?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Very interesting about the capitalism today?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Hope
Speaker 4 (39:22):
The damn book. Hang
Speaker 1 (39:23):
On. Something. No, leave all that. Just keep going. Go. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I just hope I can afford the book so I can learn more about the capitalism because it’s not working for me at all.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Where’s my music? Mark? You don’t have Spielberg rights here. This is fucking directing the show. Just put the music on. Hey,
Speaker 4 (39:46):
This protest is more fired up than that shit. We just saw
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Fucking rain.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
But that speaks to how everything is so controlled. Yes. Once upon a time when people were protesting, they were fired up and they were seeing they’d come after lunch, and I mean, I’m not coming. If it’s raining, it’s
Speaker 1 (40:04):
A half mile away and it’s before noon.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Yeah, and who’s seeing it? What impact is that? Having
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Concert lives seem to have more turnout than protests do nowadays. Oh, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Jesus. I’m not going to say we’re doomed, but I need a drink. See you next week.
