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Michigan bureaucrats refuse to come to work.

LeDuff, back in Lansing, convenes his own special hearing on government waste.

 

AND- the New York Times admits it lied about illegal immigrants. 

Now metro Detroit is exposed to criminal gangs. 

 

PLUS- Daniel Penny the Subway Samaritan. There, but for the grace of God, go I. 

 

Let’s Go Lions! With Fox 2 sports anchor Woody Woodriffe.

 

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OK, Karen,

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you know what they’re saying now?

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Mainstream media is dead.

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Mainstream media is dead.

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They blew it.

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Nobody believes in them.

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And the new alternative media is the future.

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That’s horseshit.

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That’s horseshit.

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Because sitting around on a podcast just talking about

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shit isn’t journalism.

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What are they doing on the podcast that they’re sitting

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around talking about stuff the mainstream media already

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Like, what’s a Luigi Mangione?

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The assassin.

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Did Joe Rogan or any anybody actually go out?

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The Kelsey brothers.

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The Kelsey brothers.

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Did they go out and and do the the gum shooing,

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the sleuthing,

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standing in the cold,

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going to the youth hostel,

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any of this?

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No, it’s just talking chitchat bullshit.

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And by the way,

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appreciate you all.

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I heard you at the Killer Cares charity event.

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Thank you for listening and trusting us.

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We do original work.

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Let me remind you what this program’s about.

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We do our own work,

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or we have people on that do the work,

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or we have the people on that are in the news or make

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the news.

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That’s what we do.

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That sounds good,

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That makes a difference.

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You want to be part of it?

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Where do I apply?

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Here you go.

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There you go.

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Get your number down right there.

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Case in point.

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In Lansing,

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they’re up there doing the secretive lame duck legislative

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session where they’re trying to ram through a whole

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bunch of bullshit before the holiday cause nobody

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would even dream of doing these things before the

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election cause you’d be out on your ass.

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So Ken Beck and I in cohesion with the enjoyer.com,

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michiganenjoyer.com,

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went up to Lansing.

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To have a look at what the fuck they’re doing and how

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they’re wasting our money.

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This is original.

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You’re going to love it.

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What am I doing?

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Smoking a butt while sitting on the crapper at the

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Michigan State Capitol?

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Let me explain.

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Turns out Lansing’s a great place to work because no

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one has to work there.

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They’re all at home in their jammies,

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coming up with schemes to waste your money while they’re

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still working under the COVID telecommute rules.

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Is anybody working?

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Lansing’s a ghost town.

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I’m told about 43,000 of the state’s 50,000 employees

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work at least some time at home.

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And that doesn’t include the legislature or governor

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Those numbers are a state secret.

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So why are they sitting at home scheming to give a

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Detroit billionaire $1 billion for an empty building

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when the state is spending $1 billion on empty buildings?

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And that’s not all.

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The work from home waste drills of the state legislature

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are trying to ram home a plethora of dung legislation

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during the secret lame duck hearings.

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So we convene a hearing of our own.

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Are you telling me they want to give driver’s licenses

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to illegal aliens?

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Not only that,

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Sir, but they want to increase fees on our driver’s

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licenses.

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And it’s your testimony that they want to teach transgender

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sex education and put tampons in the boys’

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bathrooms.

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And they want to have early prison release for people

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that committed murder before they’re 18.

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And free water and subsidized housing for people making

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a middle class income.

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And gas tax and toll roads and fees for people who

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sell tobacco.

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And it’s your testimony that the roads are broken and

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the schools are stupid in Michigan.

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And to make matters worse,

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Sir, Lansing’s empty.

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We’re paying a billion dollars for the office space

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and we want to give.

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Billion dollars to a billionaire downtown to buy empty

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office space.

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This whole thing’s out of here.

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I wanted some answers from someone in charge.

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Nobody here.

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Speaker of the House.

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And that’s not a bad thing if you’re pulling a government

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Late 30, Joe.

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No pesky citizens to deal with.

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No lies at the coffee pot.

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No fish smells from the microwave and no annoying phone

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calls to ruin your afternoon nap.

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The building was empty,

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so I thought I’d go to the John and have myself a

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cigarette.

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I mean, who’s it going to bother?

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And you’ll never guess what I discovered.

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Duply in a depression.

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Last year,

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the state of Michigan was required to list how many

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people were working from home and what it cost.

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But not this year.

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So I went to ask the director of the Department of

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Technology,

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Management and Budget,

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who’s supposed to be in charge of all this.

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So it’s not working.

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Is that what it?

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That’s what I got.

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The director’s phone is not working.

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Director of Buildings and Management,

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Budget, Technology.

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Vote’s not working.

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Getting no answers there,

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I visited the mortician across the street.

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He showed up to work.

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Why is this town so bad?

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I think they’re still all working at home.

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Billions for billionaires,

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driver’s licenses for illegals,

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failing schools and people who don’t show up for work.

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We’re broke,

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and yet we’re paying for it all.

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Lansing needs an enema.

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We need someone to come up here and wipe out the waste.

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Live from downtown Detroit,

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it’s the No Bullshit News Hour with my main man,

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Charlie Lazard and Karen Dumitz.

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This is just breaking his double or bullshit.

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Double or bullshit.

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Well, as you just saw,

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the politicians lie to you.

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The media lies to you.

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And how do you know if your investment statements are

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lying to you?

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Remember, you’re not managing your wealth.

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That’s some unseen guy working for a big bank,

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jockeying some unknown logarithm.

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Algorithm.

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What’s the difference between an algorithm and a logarithm?

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I I would call Luke or somebody.

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I don’t know.

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OK, Luke Nowacki at 248-663-4748 Pinnacle Wealth Management.

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Your guy’s not making decisions based on what’s best

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He’s making decisions on what’s best for his bonus,

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gambling with your hard-earned dollars.

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You should know your money,

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That’s why I work with financial specialist Luke Nowacki

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Let Luke Nowacki worry so you don’t have to.

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If interested in this trailblazing opportunity,

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Do you realize how simple but significant that is?

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I mean, just that concept.

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OK, call it.

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I just want to make sure that you realize that 989-614-0416.

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Yeah, the industry’s kind of quaking about that.

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It’s time that there’s so much that needs to be changed

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so much, you know,

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and that’s what they promised us up in Lansing.

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Like you know where they’re trying to ram something

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through where it’s got to do with pharmacies and access

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in rural,

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rural areas and.

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All the representatives on the committee are OK,

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we’re for it.

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We want to protect people.

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Then Big Pharma comes in,

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drops 5 grand and everybody’s 501C4 and all of a sudden

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it doesn’t make it out of committee.

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And then, you know,

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people in the countryside are poor and then you’re

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squeezing them when you promised that you would look

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out for them.

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And you saw that.

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You see what’s going on in Lansing.

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Nobody’s looking out for anybody but themselves.

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Oh my God,

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That’s the reality that we’re facing.

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The people that are in place to make decisions for

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those who put them there are getting nothing in return.

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And what the fuck?

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Hey, what the fuck,

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40,000 out of 50,000 people control.

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They’re still working under COVID rules.

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Oh, I know.

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They’re probably wearing masks at home,

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You know, like,

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I’m a constituent.

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You know, I’m a reporter.

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Like, phones don’t work.

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Speaker of the house isn’t at work.

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The bureaucrats aren’t.

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Fucking nothing’s getting done.

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The budget’s ballooned.

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What, 40% under Whitmer?

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We don’t have the money.

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The school’s got a cut.

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You want to give driver’s licenses to illegals.

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Those are really weird things to push through,

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I think, for a lame duck session.

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I mean, who does that benefit?

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Who does that help?

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But is that what they do in lame duck?

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No, I know,

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but usually,

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usually to their benefits of their friends and families,

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I don’t know.

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Bad policy.

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I think it’s really interesting too.

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Like that you see the Democrats going on TV and we

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really blew it and we’re not connecting with anybody.

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And these,

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that’s why these issues of ours,

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you’re right.

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These issues of ours were were scattershot and not

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what regular we need.

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We need to reconnect with people,

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The media of mea culpa.

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Look here,

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here’s one.

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Here’s one right here.

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This is New York Times today.

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Here’s the New York Times.

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An unprecedented surge in immigration.

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OK, so the New York Times decides in recent weeks to

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analyze the magnitude of the recent migrant surge

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in the United States.

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Want to know their findings?

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But they they just found this out.

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OK, number one,

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the surge since 2021 has been the largest in U.S.

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OK, no surprise.

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Well, they were denying it.

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Even after adjusting for today’s larger population,

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the surge is larger than that during the peak years

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of Ellis Island.

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The share of the US population born in another country

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has reached a record high all time in this country.

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President Biden’s welcoming immigration policy has

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been the main reason for the surge.

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So the New York Times is now declaring.

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That what Biden did was the reason for nearly four

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They denied it,

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denied that Harris was the borders czar,

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Trying to what the fuck?

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OK, is this article from 18 months ago?

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It was from today.

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Interesting.

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But there’s a change in administration.

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So now there’s got to be a change in conversation and

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change in tone.

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I mean, that’s what everybody does.

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Everybody’s a chameleon,

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more than half of net migration since 2021.

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Has been among people who entered the country illegally.

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They’re saying 8 million.

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They’re not counting the gotaways,

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The the cartel runners and people on the terror watch

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list, the ones that want to avoid,

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that’s 2 million.

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Here’s another thing that they forgot to put in the

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people that jump their visas.

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You come in on a tourist visa,

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you come in on a student visa.

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We’ve given out a record number of such visas.

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Conservatively speaking,

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at least 1,000,000 people a year do not leave,

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That that is from the United States government.

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So that’s another 4 million.

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You’re talking 15 million.

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This isn’t even accurate.

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And if we go back to 911 and those terrorists,

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they all overstay their visas.

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Most of them are student visas,

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I believe.

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And most people that are here legally are people that

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overstay their visas.

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And it only took 10.

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Of them to take down the Twin Towers.

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And now we get the same bullshit from Trudeau up up

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in Canada,

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That’s why Trump’s like,

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come kiss my ass.

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The unprecedented scale of recent immigration,

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says the New York Times,

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helps explain why the issue played such a big role

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Yet the New York Times couldn’t tell us during the

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election or tell us the truth.

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They’re so fucking decrepit and.

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#7 The recent immigration surge has probably ended.

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Next word,

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That’s going to be interesting.

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Like, what is his approach going to be as,

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you know,

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cutthroat as he’s conveying that it’s going to be

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like January.

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Well, I’m just.

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I mean, just,

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I mean, OK,

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cut and dry.

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Just very simple to the point.

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Is it as aggressive?

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Maybe aggressive is a better word.

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I think it’s being overstated because look.

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No one’s going after Babushka.

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No one’s going after Abuela.

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What we’re going to focus on is fucking criminals to

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begin with.

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A million people that are already been told to leave,

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another half million that have criminal records,

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including over 10,000 rapists and 10,000 murderers,

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We’re going to get them first.

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That’s a big job to begin with.

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So we’ll begin with that.

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And we’re going to zip this shit up.

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How hard is that?

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OK, well, we’ll see.

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You know what I mean?

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And Trudeau,

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old Pinko Pierre up there,

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Oh, wokey,

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Premier, pretty boy.

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You know what Trudeau means in French?

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Pretty boy.

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Waterhole.

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So he’s definitely old waterhole.

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Old that sweet the creature from the waterhole,

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With your dumb immigration policies over.

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Here’s one real big statistic.

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Half of the people.

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That the Canadian security apparatus flagged as a security

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They let him in anyway.

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And they’re coming here twice as many from Canada than

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from Mexico on the terror watch list.

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It’s been so awful.

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How do we localize this?

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Like our mission?

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They just got a Chilean gang in Oakland County busting

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into people’s homes.

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You know what I mean?

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You bust into homes.

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That’s violent.

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Yeah, it is.

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That’s that’s ultimate violence right there.

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That right,

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Rape, murder and busting into someone’s home and and

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diddling with children.

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Those are the four no go’s.

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No go and seniors.

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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And abusing seniors.

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That’s that’s the five cardinal sins of being a human

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being, right there.

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There should be honor among thieves if they would say

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those are things that are off the.

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Should be off the off the list.

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Like, you know,

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we’re Americans.

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You know what I mean?

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It’s very funky,

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very wide open here.

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Those are the five fucking things you do not do.

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And they’re doing them.

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So we got a Chilean gang work in Metro Detroit,

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busting at people.

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They busted them.

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What do we know about them?

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That they were on the visa waiver program.

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Do you all know what the visa waiver program is?

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The visa waiver program is if you’re from certain countries,

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they’re from Chile.

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Columbia being another one,

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you can fly into this fucking place called our home

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without a visa,

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without really no background check,

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as long as you leave before 90 days,

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which nobody does.

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That’s how they got in.

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This is what’s been going on in the New York Times,

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which helped lead to this insanity.

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They’re they’re responsible for it,

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and now they’re trying to dig backwards.

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I guess that sounds like account.

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I don’t even know how to describe it.

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But you think about when you travel,

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you know the problems that you have when you when

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you when you travel internationally,

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you know you’re stuck at customs,

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you’re stuck at all this stuff.

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And how is it just on the on the opposite and even

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coming home,

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you know you got us,

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you’re standing in line,

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you’re asking asked 20,000 questions.

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Let me see this.

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Like how is that so easy for everybody else and.

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It’s difficult for us to even come back home.

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And you know,

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when you travel like,

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you know,

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even the places,

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you know,

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allies, friendly countries where you don’t need a

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visa, you got to show them your vaccination papers.

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You got it.

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It’s it’s it’s a lot.

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But during COVID,

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we’re letting 2 million people in a year during during

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the pandemic that you all said freak out about.

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You didn’t say Boo that they just let these people

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come in, no vaccination,

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no requirement and paying for airplanes.

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That’s what this is insane.

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What’s the logic behind that,

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Mark, what’s the logic behind that?

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Oh, you’re asking me.

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The logic behind it.

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You’re the smart one here.

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I don’t know.

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Encourage tourism.

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That seems ridiculous,

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I mean, they’re claiming asylum.

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But think about this.

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We keep talking about population here in the city of

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All these people that are coming in,

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nobody’s coming here.

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No, like the popular,

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you know,

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Mike Doug and that guy,

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The population grew like 1000 people.

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Yeah, they’re illegals,

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And the population shrinking again.

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I look forward to that.

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Which what is what is the other thing like in this

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Luigi Mangione,

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The privileged hit man all of a sudden it’s going around

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the Internet.

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He’s a fucking hero.

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So a premeditated assassin is held to high regard.

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And at the same time,

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Daniel Penny is vilified,

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the Marine Samaritan trying to protect people.

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It goes badly,

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don’t get me wrong.

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It goes, what is going on here?

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But I think you have the intersection of economics,

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you know,

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You’ve got all those things that play into the perception,

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and I don’t necessarily think that people were happy.

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That the CEO of United Healthcare was murdered.

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I think they saw it as,

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you know,

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just some some kind of say it for me.

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They have a vindication.

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Thank you of what people are experiencing from the

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in the healthcare space here.

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I mean, so that’s not how we solve things though.

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That’s ridiculous.

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What like look,

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everybody’s.

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Gets angry and they say shit they shouldn’t and have

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a fleeting fantasy,

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To murder somebody.

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Like, no, there are people celebrating.

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There’s a lot of them.

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That’s not right.

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But that makes us all exposed.

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I’m sick of that person.

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What they say,

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they make me so fucking angry.

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I’m going to go do something to them,

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I mean, that’s not the way.

523
00:19:57,681 –> 00:19:59,761
The way is clean government for us.

524
00:19:59,761 –> 00:20:01,921
Not like what they’re doing up in Lansing.

525
00:20:02,001 –> 00:20:03,161
Yeah, you know what I mean?

526
00:20:03,281 –> 00:20:04,081
Vote differently.

527
00:20:04,321 –> 00:20:06,961
And and the when nothing goes right,

528
00:20:07,281 –> 00:20:09,681
when when none of these systems work.

529
00:20:10,721 –> 00:20:11,201
We’re not.

530
00:20:11,201 –> 00:20:13,041
We’re asking the judge,

531
00:20:13,281 –> 00:20:14,241
the wise person,

532
00:20:14,521 –> 00:20:15,601
We have the the law,

533
00:20:15,601 –> 00:20:17,921
the police and everything and and none of this works

534
00:20:18,081 –> 00:20:21,841
that the judge be the rational wise woman in all of

535
00:20:21,841 –> 00:20:24,241
this because there’s just a Gray area and we need

536
00:20:24,241 –> 00:20:26,801
you to be worldly.

537
00:20:27,761 –> 00:20:30,001
And I’m looking at the the Daniel Penny case,

538
00:20:30,721 –> 00:20:31,121
you know,

539
00:20:31,201 –> 00:20:36,001
who subdued Jordan Neely,

540
00:20:36,721 –> 00:20:39,441
A schizophrenic black man.

541
00:20:41,201 –> 00:20:45,761
Who was high and is one of the top 50 known troubled

542
00:20:46,321 –> 00:20:50,121
homeless people in a city of almost 9 million in and

543
00:20:50,121 –> 00:20:51,361
out of jail numerous times.

544
00:20:51,361 –> 00:20:53,881
Arrested 42 times in seven years.

545
00:20:54,241 –> 00:20:55,761
Yeah, punching old women,

546
00:20:55,761 –> 00:20:56,521
old men in the face.

547
00:20:56,721 –> 00:20:57,441
He’s violent.

548
00:20:57,441 –> 00:20:58,241
He’s well known.

549
00:20:58,401 –> 00:21:00,561
OK, so he comes in and he says.

550
00:21:01,121 –> 00:21:04,241
Someone’s gonna die today and I don’t care if I spend

551
00:21:04,241 –> 00:21:05,201
my life in prison.

552
00:21:05,361 –> 00:21:07,521
This from the witnesses on the train,

553
00:21:07,681 –> 00:21:08,801
people of color,

554
00:21:09,041 –> 00:21:10,241
people not of color,

555
00:21:10,241 –> 00:21:11,281
I guess, you know,

556
00:21:11,681 –> 00:21:12,401
who, by the way,

557
00:21:12,401 –> 00:21:14,881
have don’t have the privilege of knowing his background,

558
00:21:15,641 –> 00:21:16,801
And knowing that he’s troubled,

559
00:21:16,801 –> 00:21:19,361
he’s he is just at that point a random guy walking

560
00:21:19,361 –> 00:21:20,321
onto the subway saying.

561
00:21:20,801 –> 00:21:21,841
Someone’s going to die today,

562
00:21:22,281 –> 00:21:24,961
I lived in New York City for like many years.

563
00:21:25,201 –> 00:21:27,841
Yeah, when that shit happened and everybody kind of

564
00:21:27,841 –> 00:21:29,361
turns away and tries to ignore,

565
00:21:29,721 –> 00:21:31,721
But now, but now he’s a foot in your face and there’s

566
00:21:31,721 –> 00:21:32,401
children there.

567
00:21:32,481 –> 00:21:33,361
Yeah, you know,

568
00:21:33,561 –> 00:21:34,881
But if somebody says that today,

569
00:21:34,961 –> 00:21:38,001
you, you hear it differently than you may have years

570
00:21:38,001 –> 00:21:40,641
ago because people are so violent and they’re publicly

571
00:21:42,001 –> 00:21:43,761
So Daniel Penny,

572
00:21:43,761 –> 00:21:44,481
the ex-marine,

573
00:21:44,641 –> 00:21:46,601
he’s the Mr.

574
00:21:46,601 –> 00:21:47,201
Neely dies.

575
00:21:47,761 –> 00:21:50,081
So he’s charged with second-degree manslaughter.

576
00:21:50,281 –> 00:21:52,321
That’s the primary charge.

577
00:21:52,361 –> 00:21:55,521
And the secondary charge is criminally negligent homicide.

578
00:21:55,521 –> 00:22:00,361
So manslaughter carries a higher penalty than negligent

579
00:22:00,361 –> 00:22:00,881
homicide.

580
00:22:00,881 –> 00:22:03,041
OK, which still carries five years.

581
00:22:04,521 –> 00:22:05,201
Still pretty serious.

582
00:22:05,201 –> 00:22:06,241
And manslaughter’s 15.

583
00:22:06,801 –> 00:22:09,441
So the jury made-up of seven women,

584
00:22:09,921 –> 00:22:10,721
five men,

585
00:22:11,361 –> 00:22:12,401
seven whites,

586
00:22:13,441 –> 00:22:14,321
2 blacks,

587
00:22:15,041 –> 00:22:15,921
one Asian.

588
00:22:16,881 –> 00:22:18,001
No, no, I’m listening.

589
00:22:19,441 –> 00:22:22,321
And one Hispanic.

590
00:22:23,121 –> 00:22:24,401
That’s almost dead nuts,

591
00:22:24,401 –> 00:22:26,081
the makeup of the United States.

592
00:22:26,721 –> 00:22:30,721
So this isn’t some racist white power jury.

593
00:22:30,721 –> 00:22:34,321
This is people from New York considering all the facts.

594
00:22:34,321 –> 00:22:36,321
Now, what’s interesting,

595
00:22:37,601 –> 00:22:40,161
it was a hung jury on the big charge,

596
00:22:40,161 –> 00:22:40,801
manslaughter.

597
00:22:41,521 –> 00:22:42,081
Couldn’t decide.

598
00:22:42,081 –> 00:22:45,041
It was probably 10 not guilty and two guilty,

599
00:22:46,401 –> 00:22:50,321
So the judge in this case really wants some kind of

600
00:22:50,321 –> 00:22:51,041
adjudication,

601
00:22:51,041 –> 00:22:52,241
some kind of conviction.

602
00:22:52,961 –> 00:22:54,001
This is never heard of.

603
00:22:54,481 –> 00:22:56,001
Throws the charge out,

604
00:22:56,001 –> 00:22:57,361
says come back Monday.

605
00:22:57,521 –> 00:23:01,361
Forget that he’s now only charged with the lesser crime,

606
00:23:01,361 –> 00:23:04,041
which is criminally negligent homicide,

607
00:23:04,161 –> 00:23:06,881
to which I think the jury gets tired of being played

608
00:23:07,681 –> 00:23:10,161
and says now let him go.

609
00:23:10,161 –> 00:23:11,041
All right,

610
00:23:11,441 –> 00:23:12,321
well, here’s the deal.

611
00:23:12,321 –> 00:23:13,521
The instructions are this.

612
00:23:14,161 –> 00:23:15,361
Here’s the main charge.

613
00:23:15,761 –> 00:23:16,561
Manslaughter.

614
00:23:17,201 –> 00:23:18,241
If guilty,

615
00:23:18,721 –> 00:23:21,361
guilty, don’t consider the lesser charges.

616
00:23:22,321 –> 00:23:23,521
If not guilty,

617
00:23:23,601 –> 00:23:25,361
you may move to the lesser charge.

618
00:23:25,681 –> 00:23:26,761
So it wasn’t manslaughter.

619
00:23:26,761 –> 00:23:27,841
It was negligent homicide.

620
00:23:29,521 –> 00:23:33,161
The problem here is the jury didn’t reach a verdict

621
00:23:33,201 –> 00:23:34,561
of guilty or not guilty.

622
00:23:34,561 –> 00:23:35,201
They were hung.

623
00:23:35,201 –> 00:23:36,161
It’s a mistrial.

624
00:23:36,481 –> 00:23:37,601
And again.

625
00:23:38,801 –> 00:23:39,441
The judges,

626
00:23:39,441 –> 00:23:42,041
the legal system in New York is so perverted.

627
00:23:42,041 –> 00:23:43,521
That’s not American justice.

628
00:23:43,761 –> 00:23:44,961
That’s a mistrial.

629
00:23:45,201 –> 00:23:47,921
And you do it all over again now.

630
00:23:47,921 –> 00:23:51,121
And this is where people that don’t feel that Mister

631
00:23:51,121 –> 00:23:52,081
Neely got justice.

632
00:23:52,721 –> 00:23:55,201
You didn’t get justice because the judge perverted

633
00:23:55,201 –> 00:24:00,241
it and Penny can’t be brought back for the manslaughter

634
00:24:00,241 –> 00:24:02,081
because the judge dismissed it.

635
00:24:02,481 –> 00:24:05,041
This is why it fucks all of us.

636
00:24:06,081 –> 00:24:06,961
Sounds familiar,

637
00:24:08,441 –> 00:24:09,081
You know, it’s interesting,

638
00:24:09,081 –> 00:24:11,161
Karen, you were talking about perception and and what

639
00:24:11,161 –> 00:24:12,321
what’s going on out there.

640
00:24:12,481 –> 00:24:14,801
And it’s, I was always amazed that a lot of people

641
00:24:14,801 –> 00:24:17,041
compared this to George Floyd where,

642
00:24:17,041 –> 00:24:17,401
you know,

643
00:24:17,401 –> 00:24:19,041
a guy is is on the neck,

644
00:24:19,761 –> 00:24:21,841
Derek Chauvin on the neck of George Floyd for what,

645
00:24:21,921 –> 00:24:22,801
88 minutes,

646
00:24:23,281 –> 00:24:24,401
approximately 9 minutes,

647
00:24:25,361 –> 00:24:28,121
And the crux of this case of Daniel Penny is he strangled

648
00:24:28,121 –> 00:24:29,841
him for six minutes,

649
00:24:30,241 –> 00:24:32,121
And should he have known that that’s enough,

650
00:24:32,121 –> 00:24:34,081
which I I think that’s insane.

651
00:24:34,321 –> 00:24:36,961
It’s so different in that courtroom and what they’re

652
00:24:36,961 –> 00:24:40,001
talking about versus what they’re saying outside,

653
00:24:40,481 –> 00:24:42,641
You have one side saying this is a guy who’s been in

654
00:24:42,641 –> 00:24:43,041
out of jail,

655
00:24:43,041 –> 00:24:44,041
he’s a drug addict,

656
00:24:44,321 –> 00:24:45,161
This is why he died.

657
00:24:45,161 –> 00:24:47,121
And then you have another side saying he killed him

658
00:24:47,201 –> 00:24:48,401
simply cause he’s black.

659
00:24:48,881 –> 00:24:51,281
Neither of those really entered the trial.

660
00:24:51,281 –> 00:24:52,241
It’s not part of it.

661
00:24:52,241 –> 00:24:53,281
It’s so exhausting.

662
00:24:53,601 –> 00:24:55,441
It is a guy that lived through this.

663
00:24:55,681 –> 00:24:56,961
We got some of this.

664
00:24:57,761 –> 00:24:59,841
It was 2015.

665
00:25:01,201 –> 00:25:01,921
Guy comes by.

666
00:25:01,921 –> 00:25:02,961
He’s been robbing,

667
00:25:02,961 –> 00:25:04,241
breaking into hotel rooms,

668
00:25:04,241 –> 00:25:04,641
everything.

669
00:25:04,641 –> 00:25:10,961
The police are looking for him and he comes and pickpocket

670
00:25:11,041 –> 00:25:13,121
mugged, whatever you want to do,

671
00:25:13,201 –> 00:25:14,081
unarmed robbery.

672
00:25:15,961 –> 00:25:18,321
Grabs a cell phone off of the owner of American Coney

673
00:25:18,321 –> 00:25:19,121
Island Grace.

674
00:25:19,601 –> 00:25:21,441
My name gets called it.

675
00:25:21,441 –> 00:25:21,921
By the way,

676
00:25:21,921 –> 00:25:23,721
if you’re listening to this and you want to see the

677
00:25:23,721 –> 00:25:26,841
video, you want to see the pieces we’re doing and

678
00:25:26,841 –> 00:25:27,601
not listen,

679
00:25:27,761 –> 00:25:30,801
you can go to nobsnewshour.com.

680
00:25:30,801 –> 00:25:31,681
We’re on YouTube.

681
00:25:31,921 –> 00:25:33,361
Charlie Leduff on X,

682
00:25:33,681 –> 00:25:35,601
the enjoyer.com.

683
00:25:36,321 –> 00:25:37,241
It’s they’re worth looking at.

684
00:25:37,241 –> 00:25:38,961
The video available on Spotify as well.

685
00:25:39,121 –> 00:25:40,001
Oh, OK, there you go.

686
00:25:40,801 –> 00:25:42,641
So my name gets called.

687
00:25:44,121 –> 00:25:46,481
And I look up and there he goes and I chase him.

688
00:25:46,561 –> 00:25:47,601
I just want the phone back.

689
00:25:47,681 –> 00:25:48,481
He doesn’t run.

690
00:25:48,881 –> 00:25:53,641
He turns around and he’s trying to take me out.

691
00:25:54,481 –> 00:25:56,561
So I take his legs out.

692
00:25:56,561 –> 00:25:59,161
I do a double leg takedown in the wrestling terminology.

693
00:25:59,161 –> 00:26:00,801
Is that after you threw your coffee at him?

694
00:26:02,841 –> 00:26:03,641
Yeah, I threw the coffee.

695
00:26:04,481 –> 00:26:06,241
Well, that’s why I threw the coffee when he turned

696
00:26:06,641 –> 00:26:07,121
I’m like, oh,

697
00:26:07,201 –> 00:26:07,921
the fuck,

698
00:26:08,001 –> 00:26:08,521
Oh my God,

699
00:26:09,681 –> 00:26:10,401
And now, you know,

700
00:26:10,401 –> 00:26:11,281
he’s talking to shit,

701
00:26:11,521 –> 00:26:12,401
talking to shit.

702
00:26:13,081 –> 00:26:15,681
And I got my slippery boots on and I go down.

703
00:26:16,481 –> 00:26:17,161
Right up, right up.

704
00:26:17,361 –> 00:26:18,481
OK, now I got his legs.

705
00:26:19,441 –> 00:26:20,321
Take him down.

706
00:26:20,681 –> 00:26:21,681
I’m on top of him.

707
00:26:22,161 –> 00:26:23,761
I try my legs and his legs.

708
00:26:24,161 –> 00:26:27,681
I give him choke hold when it’s not a choke hold.

709
00:26:27,681 –> 00:26:29,561
It’s not called a choke hold.

710
00:26:29,561 –> 00:26:29,961
What is it?

711
00:26:30,001 –> 00:26:32,321
You had arm your headlock.

712
00:26:32,481 –> 00:26:36,081
Yeah, reverse and and an arm bar because it’s not in

713
00:26:36,081 –> 00:26:36,441
wrestling.

714
00:26:36,441 –> 00:26:36,801
You can’t.

715
00:26:37,041 –> 00:26:38,241
You can’t do a choke hold.

716
00:26:38,561 –> 00:26:39,041
You’re treating.

717
00:26:39,041 –> 00:26:40,441
What was the street name for it,

718
00:26:44,161 –> 00:26:44,841
You can’t.

719
00:26:44,841 –> 00:26:46,561
You can’t beat a guy that knows how to grapple.

720
00:26:46,961 –> 00:26:47,681
So I’m on.

721
00:26:47,881 –> 00:26:48,881
He came after me.

722
00:26:49,361 –> 00:26:51,361
He committed a lot of crimes.

723
00:26:52,001 –> 00:26:53,041
He came after me.

724
00:26:53,361 –> 00:26:54,161
I took him down.

725
00:26:54,241 –> 00:26:56,561
I’m holding him down 20 minutes for police to come.

726
00:26:58,241 –> 00:26:59,681
You know what he said to me when I was in town?

727
00:26:59,721 –> 00:27:02,241
I’m going to fucking kill you.

728
00:27:03,201 –> 00:27:05,201
So I’m supposed to let him go.

729
00:27:05,201 –> 00:27:06,401
I’m going to let.

730
00:27:06,481 –> 00:27:07,121
I’m going to kill you.

731
00:27:07,441 –> 00:27:08,721
Much bigger dude than me.

732
00:27:09,121 –> 00:27:10,361
I don’t need a guy.

733
00:27:10,361 –> 00:27:13,521
I don’t know if he knows who I am,

734
00:27:14,161 –> 00:27:18,401
but but the guy’s easily 40 to 50 lbs heavier than

735
00:27:18,561 –> 00:27:19,361
He’s a young dude,

736
00:27:19,361 –> 00:27:20,281
19 years old.

737
00:27:20,881 –> 00:27:22,441
You had a lot of people that kind of come,

738
00:27:22,641 –> 00:27:22,841
you know,

739
00:27:22,841 –> 00:27:25,041
people were everybody was converging to try to and

740
00:27:25,441 –> 00:27:27,681
see people running from across the street and the

741
00:27:27,681 –> 00:27:28,881
guy on the bike stopped.

742
00:27:29,321 –> 00:27:31,041
I mean, that’s unusual to have a look.

743
00:27:31,281 –> 00:27:31,841
Yeah, well,

744
00:27:31,841 –> 00:27:32,721
nobody was OK.

745
00:27:32,721 –> 00:27:33,601
So what must now,

746
00:27:33,681 –> 00:27:36,081
were you thinking at any point in time that your actions

747
00:27:36,081 –> 00:27:38,001
right there could lead to a death?

748
00:27:39,441 –> 00:27:42,401
Yeah, you were just trying just to kill you.

749
00:27:42,681 –> 00:27:44,081
And what did how did you respond to that,

750
00:27:45,121 –> 00:27:46,281
I said something to him.

751
00:27:46,281 –> 00:27:48,281
I mean, did you did you do something different?

752
00:27:48,281 –> 00:27:49,521
I think I I said to him,

753
00:27:49,521 –> 00:27:50,121
I told him my,

754
00:27:50,121 –> 00:27:52,401
I said the name’s Charlie the Duff.

755
00:27:52,961 –> 00:27:54,401
Remember it,

756
00:27:55,121 –> 00:27:55,801
Remember that.

757
00:27:56,401 –> 00:27:58,481
So this guy,

758
00:27:58,881 –> 00:28:00,961
oh, huge outburst in the court,

759
00:28:01,241 –> 00:28:02,001
You know, fuck you,

760
00:28:02,041 –> 00:28:03,041
N bomb to me,

761
00:28:03,361 –> 00:28:04,121
You know, he stands up.

762
00:28:04,121 –> 00:28:05,001
Fuck you, N bomb.

763
00:28:05,841 –> 00:28:06,361
They give him,

764
00:28:07,441 –> 00:28:07,681
you know.

765
00:28:08,961 –> 00:28:14,081
3 to 15 Three to 15 for a cell phone outside the court.

766
00:28:14,641 –> 00:28:19,761
His old man lover said he’s violent.

767
00:28:20,401 –> 00:28:21,361
He sometimes hit me,

768
00:28:21,361 –> 00:28:22,961
but you don’t understand,

769
00:28:22,961 –> 00:28:23,281
you know,

770
00:28:23,281 –> 00:28:25,521
the way his problems growing up.

771
00:28:25,521 –> 00:28:25,881
And I’m like,

772
00:28:26,561 –> 00:28:27,081
be careful,

773
00:28:27,081 –> 00:28:27,561
my friend.

774
00:28:28,081 –> 00:28:31,241
And this is almost 10 years later.

775
00:28:31,241 –> 00:28:33,601
He’s still in prison for a cell phone.

776
00:28:33,601 –> 00:28:34,961
So what does that tell you?

777
00:28:36,161 –> 00:28:37,601
About the level of this guy.

778
00:28:37,601 –> 00:28:39,441
Now, what do you want me to do,

779
00:28:40,841 –> 00:28:43,681
Do you want a guy to come up and abuse you,

780
00:28:43,681 –> 00:28:45,161
rob you, steal from you,

781
00:28:45,281 –> 00:28:47,521
hit you, break into your stuff,

782
00:28:47,841 –> 00:28:48,641
beat you up?

783
00:28:49,121 –> 00:28:51,201
Or do you want me to try?

784
00:28:51,761 –> 00:28:54,161
Do we just let people walk around doing this?

785
00:28:54,241 –> 00:28:56,921
Because eventually people don’t do it when they think

786
00:28:56,921 –> 00:28:57,841
there’s a consequence.

787
00:28:58,441 –> 00:28:59,681
And if there’s no consequence,

788
00:28:59,841 –> 00:29:00,561
we’re lost.

789
00:29:01,001 –> 00:29:03,761
And we also talk a lot about when people see other

790
00:29:03,761 –> 00:29:04,521
people in need,

791
00:29:04,521 –> 00:29:06,321
whether it’s a crime or something,

792
00:29:06,321 –> 00:29:07,441
and people turning their heads.

793
00:29:07,441 –> 00:29:08,481
You talked about that a little bit,

794
00:29:08,561 –> 00:29:09,841
even on New York subway,

795
00:29:10,081 –> 00:29:11,041
if there’s something going on,

796
00:29:11,041 –> 00:29:12,401
everybody kind of turns their back.

797
00:29:12,401 –> 00:29:13,281
So, I mean,

798
00:29:13,281 –> 00:29:14,321
are we the keeper?

799
00:29:14,321 –> 00:29:15,521
Are we our brother’s keeper?

800
00:29:15,921 –> 00:29:17,361
Well, answer it then,

801
00:29:17,521 –> 00:29:19,241
because you could see I’m exercised about it.

802
00:29:19,321 –> 00:29:20,641
I’m not asking a question.

803
00:29:20,961 –> 00:29:22,081
I want an answer from you.

804
00:29:22,241 –> 00:29:23,201
What do you do?

805
00:29:23,401 –> 00:29:23,841
What do you do?

806
00:29:23,841 –> 00:29:24,881
What do you think of this?

807
00:29:25,601 –> 00:29:27,761
This Daniel Penny or what I what do you think?

808
00:29:27,921 –> 00:29:30,081
I mean what do you think that’s a that’s a pretty large

809
00:29:30,881 –> 00:29:31,441
narrow it down.

810
00:29:31,441 –> 00:29:33,121
What do I think about it in what terms like?

811
00:29:33,841 –> 00:29:34,841
Did he do the right thing?

812
00:29:35,161 –> 00:29:35,721
Well, I mean,

813
00:29:35,721 –> 00:29:37,921
that’s relative whether or not he did the right thing.

814
00:29:37,921 –> 00:29:38,921
Hold on, hold on,

815
00:29:39,401 –> 00:29:40,161
That’s relative.

816
00:29:40,681 –> 00:29:41,801
No, I’m not dodging it,

817
00:29:41,801 –> 00:29:43,481
Charlie, because if in fact you’re.

818
00:29:44,921 –> 00:29:46,441
Yeah, but I want an answer.

819
00:29:46,521 –> 00:29:47,601
That is my answer.

820
00:29:48,081 –> 00:29:48,921
You got to listen though,

821
00:29:49,161 –> 00:29:49,961
because if this,

822
00:29:49,961 –> 00:29:50,841
if you’re on,

823
00:29:50,841 –> 00:29:52,121
if you’re in a situation,

824
00:29:52,121 –> 00:29:54,361
you’re responding to that situation at that time.

825
00:29:54,921 –> 00:29:57,001
And so this guy is posing a threat.

826
00:29:57,001 –> 00:29:58,441
We don’t know what’s going on.

827
00:29:58,441 –> 00:29:59,721
We don’t know what type of,

828
00:30:00,281 –> 00:30:00,441
you know,

829
00:30:00,441 –> 00:30:02,521
do do people on the train know that he’s this known

830
00:30:02,521 –> 00:30:03,401
person or whatever.

831
00:30:03,401 –> 00:30:05,161
So did he respond accordingly?

832
00:30:06,121 –> 00:30:07,241
Looking back on it,

833
00:30:07,241 –> 00:30:09,401
is there something that he could have done differently

834
00:30:09,401 –> 00:30:12,201
to restrain him and not kill him?

835
00:30:12,961 –> 00:30:13,481
I don’t know.

836
00:30:13,921 –> 00:30:15,401
So many variables in that.

837
00:30:15,401 –> 00:30:16,841
Well, there are.

838
00:30:17,321 –> 00:30:18,561
That’s not the question.

839
00:30:18,601 –> 00:30:19,561
But that’s my answer.

840
00:30:19,881 –> 00:30:21,201
Yeah, but you’re dodging it.

841
00:30:21,241 –> 00:30:21,721
No, I’m not.

842
00:30:22,681 –> 00:30:24,201
What am I dodging?

843
00:30:24,921 –> 00:30:25,361
I’m not a judge.

844
00:30:26,041 –> 00:30:26,921
Should he have done that?

845
00:30:28,121 –> 00:30:29,241
Should he have intervened?

846
00:30:31,801 –> 00:30:33,201
And when shit goes bad,

847
00:30:33,241 –> 00:30:33,921
like, you’re right.

848
00:30:33,921 –> 00:30:35,481
I mean, is there more he could have done?

849
00:30:36,001 –> 00:30:37,001
But that’s what I’m saying.

850
00:30:37,001 –> 00:30:38,401
There are two variables in that.

851
00:30:38,401 –> 00:30:40,361
But did he respond accordingly?

852
00:30:40,361 –> 00:30:43,681
Did should he have intervened when you’ve got the livelihood

853
00:30:43,681 –> 00:30:45,641
of these people around in jeopardy?

854
00:30:45,721 –> 00:30:47,401
They said it was they were afraid for their lives.

855
00:30:47,401 –> 00:30:48,041
That’s what I’m saying.

856
00:30:48,041 –> 00:30:49,881
So should somebody have done something?

857
00:30:50,601 –> 00:30:52,601
And he was also helped by two other men.

858
00:30:52,681 –> 00:30:53,961
OK, so one white man,

859
00:30:54,121 –> 00:30:56,001
one Latin man and one black man.

860
00:30:56,041 –> 00:30:57,561
But see, that’s a relevant though.

861
00:30:57,641 –> 00:30:58,121
I mean, no,

862
00:30:58,161 –> 00:31:00,521
it’s totally relevant because this was this was about

863
00:31:01,081 –> 00:31:02,281
It’s that’s wait,

864
00:31:02,281 –> 00:31:02,761
wait, wait,

865
00:31:02,761 –> 00:31:04,121
wait, please,

866
00:31:04,601 –> 00:31:06,361
please not mumble over the point.

867
00:31:07,401 –> 00:31:11,481
This was the talk about vigilante justice by a white

868
00:31:12,441 –> 00:31:15,801
And the white man was protecting women of color,

869
00:31:15,801 –> 00:31:16,921
children of color.

870
00:31:17,081 –> 00:31:20,681
It was also two other men of color who recognized this.

871
00:31:21,201 –> 00:31:24,441
Are we supposed to be victim?

872
00:31:24,561 –> 00:31:26,081
I’m not calling for vigilantism.

873
00:31:26,201 –> 00:31:27,641
This Luigi motherfucker.

874
00:31:28,041 –> 00:31:29,801
I wouldn’t even call it vigilantism.

875
00:31:29,801 –> 00:31:32,281
He wasn’t going around looking to stop crime.

876
00:31:32,281 –> 00:31:34,601
I mean, crime came to him and Daniel Penny stopped.

877
00:31:34,681 –> 00:31:35,641
Was it a crime?

878
00:31:36,401 –> 00:31:38,601
Well, no, a crime.

879
00:31:40,801 –> 00:31:43,881
That’s what I’m saying.

880
00:31:44,601 –> 00:31:46,161
You know, when when you first brought it up,

881
00:31:46,201 –> 00:31:47,961
I said there’s always the intersection,

882
00:31:48,121 –> 00:31:48,361
you know,

883
00:31:48,361 –> 00:31:49,121
there’s politics,

884
00:31:49,121 –> 00:31:51,241
there are people talking about brags and you know,

885
00:31:51,721 –> 00:31:53,081
it’s it’s politics,

886
00:31:53,081 –> 00:31:54,041
it’s it’s race,

887
00:31:54,041 –> 00:31:54,761
it’s economics.

888
00:31:54,761 –> 00:31:56,201
Those factors are always,

889
00:31:56,521 –> 00:31:58,521
they come into play whether or not they should,

890
00:31:58,521 –> 00:31:59,481
didn’t think about that.

891
00:31:59,561 –> 00:32:00,361
Daniel Penny.

892
00:32:00,361 –> 00:32:03,241
He thought he saw a guy come on who was bothering people

893
00:32:03,281 –> 00:32:05,721
and saying threatening that someone is going to die.

894
00:32:05,801 –> 00:32:06,361
And he just,

895
00:32:06,361 –> 00:32:09,081
he didn’t think if he had it to do all over again.

896
00:32:09,161 –> 00:32:12,521
He did think he handed his cell phone to another passenger.

897
00:32:12,601 –> 00:32:14,481
Yeah, but I mean the bigger ramification.

898
00:32:14,881 –> 00:32:17,801
Of race and how long I’m going to hold and the intent

899
00:32:17,801 –> 00:32:18,881
there was good.

900
00:32:18,881 –> 00:32:21,241
And this thing did like for me on the street there

901
00:32:21,401 –> 00:32:23,561
that was just help.

902
00:32:24,201 –> 00:32:26,681
OK, nothing but right.

903
00:32:26,761 –> 00:32:29,881
And like, but in please,

904
00:32:30,201 –> 00:32:30,601
thank you.

905
00:32:31,801 –> 00:32:32,841
Running after him.

906
00:32:34,241 –> 00:32:35,081
I’m just jogging.

907
00:32:35,081 –> 00:32:35,801
I don’t think this,

908
00:32:36,041 –> 00:32:36,441
you know,

909
00:32:36,441 –> 00:32:37,561
the guy should have just ran,

910
00:32:37,561 –> 00:32:38,521
didn’t turn around.

911
00:32:38,521 –> 00:32:40,281
I’m like, oh fuck.

912
00:32:41,001 –> 00:32:41,961
I don’t want this.

913
00:32:42,281 –> 00:32:43,401
But that’s the part of it,

914
00:32:43,761 –> 00:32:46,041
Once a situation is like that,

915
00:32:46,041 –> 00:32:48,121
nobody’s everybody’s responding.

916
00:32:48,201 –> 00:32:48,681
They’re not.

917
00:32:48,681 –> 00:32:52,161
They’re not going through a mental checklist of who,

918
00:32:52,161 –> 00:32:52,761
what, how,

919
00:32:53,041 –> 00:32:55,401
why they’re responding like you,

920
00:32:55,401 –> 00:32:57,681
like so many people do to that situation.

921
00:32:57,681 –> 00:32:58,441
No, my dear friend,

922
00:32:58,441 –> 00:32:59,321
you wouldn’t know.

923
00:32:59,801 –> 00:33:00,681
You wouldn’t know.

924
00:33:00,681 –> 00:33:02,041
Most people don’t,

925
00:33:03,561 –> 00:33:06,441
The fucking people on the podcast talking don’t.

926
00:33:07,041 –> 00:33:10,681
Most people in life don’t stop and help somebody who’s

927
00:33:10,681 –> 00:33:14,041
bleeding or who’s passed out.

928
00:33:14,041 –> 00:33:16,281
They they look and they take pictures.

929
00:33:16,841 –> 00:33:18,841
Do you want the rest of us to go away?

930
00:33:19,001 –> 00:33:20,441
Because believe me,

931
00:33:20,681 –> 00:33:22,841
it’s like Penny said,

932
00:33:23,001 –> 00:33:24,441
it’s a scary thing.

933
00:33:24,921 –> 00:33:25,721
Holy fuck,

934
00:33:25,721 –> 00:33:26,601
I don’t want this.

935
00:33:28,361 –> 00:33:28,681
Yeah, I mean,

936
00:33:28,681 –> 00:33:29,681
it’s it’s an adrenaline,

937
00:33:29,681 –> 00:33:30,761
adrenaline drive.

938
00:33:30,761 –> 00:33:31,601
And and again,

939
00:33:31,601 –> 00:33:32,441
I mean this guy.

940
00:33:33,321 –> 00:33:35,001
They’re they’re whatever.

941
00:33:35,801 –> 00:33:36,561
I know I’m just saying,

942
00:33:36,561 –> 00:33:37,001
but I mean,

943
00:33:37,161 –> 00:33:38,121
he’s a Marine.

944
00:33:38,121 –> 00:33:40,521
So I mean you got to take that into consideration.

945
00:33:40,521 –> 00:33:43,081
You know, in terms of just like an off-duty police

946
00:33:43,081 –> 00:33:46,281
officer, they may respond differently than just the

947
00:33:46,281 –> 00:33:48,441
average person because they feel like they are,

948
00:33:48,521 –> 00:33:50,681
they can and that they’re capable and that they somehow

949
00:33:51,241 –> 00:33:53,321
Well, they’re required to and they took the oath.

950
00:33:53,361 –> 00:33:54,441
And once you’re a Marine,

951
00:33:54,441 –> 00:33:58,281
you’re expected to behave like that in society.

952
00:33:58,281 –> 00:33:59,041
Same with the cop,

953
00:33:59,041 –> 00:34:02,281
but it’s not like a cop or.

954
00:34:03,161 –> 00:34:06,521
A Marine or an average citizen isn’t scared.

955
00:34:07,161 –> 00:34:10,281
It’s just I couldn’t.

956
00:34:10,281 –> 00:34:15,121
I couldn’t see my friend or you or somebody be threatened

957
00:34:15,881 –> 00:34:21,001
Sometimes you just you have to intervene and it’s so

958
00:34:21,001 –> 00:34:22,281
fucking crazy.

959
00:34:22,761 –> 00:34:24,121
You see a need and you respond.

960
00:34:24,281 –> 00:34:26,361
That demand becomes a villain,

961
00:34:26,961 –> 00:34:28,441
which and what I think,

962
00:34:28,681 –> 00:34:29,321
and again,

963
00:34:33,001 –> 00:34:34,001
I couldn’t imagine.

964
00:34:34,001 –> 00:34:34,761
I couldn’t imagine.

965
00:34:35,001 –> 00:34:37,001
You know, he didn’t want to kill the guy.

966
00:34:37,041 –> 00:34:39,961
And the the even if the guy’s a schizophrenic,

967
00:34:39,961 –> 00:34:41,401
he didn’t want to die.

968
00:34:41,721 –> 00:34:44,081
You know, I heard somebody say too that if in fact

969
00:34:44,121 –> 00:34:47,801
this guy was known to have these issues and he was

970
00:34:47,881 –> 00:34:51,561
as well known around the New York area,

971
00:34:51,561 –> 00:34:53,161
why was it where,

972
00:34:53,161 –> 00:34:53,361
you know,

973
00:34:53,361 –> 00:34:55,281
all these people that are concerned and and certainly

974
00:34:55,281 –> 00:34:56,841
condolences somebody loves him,

975
00:34:56,841 –> 00:34:58,041
he’s somebody’s family member.

976
00:34:58,361 –> 00:35:02,321
But why wasn’t there some form of intervention or outreach?

977
00:35:02,401 –> 00:35:05,561
To try to help him prior to this is where the system

978
00:35:06,281 –> 00:35:11,241
He’s top 50 be on the lookout violent homeless guys

979
00:35:11,241 –> 00:35:12,121
in the city.

980
00:35:12,121 –> 00:35:15,001
They they put him in the mental institution,

981
00:35:15,641 –> 00:35:16,441
Bellevue.

982
00:35:18,521 –> 00:35:20,921
His mother was murdered when he was young and stuffed

983
00:35:20,921 –> 00:35:21,721
in a suitcase.

984
00:35:21,721 –> 00:35:22,361
His father,

985
00:35:22,441 –> 00:35:22,961
his father,

986
00:35:23,001 –> 00:35:24,121
who’s all over the news now,

987
00:35:24,361 –> 00:35:29,401
wasn’t involved when I’m looking at $7 billion to

988
00:35:30,561 –> 00:35:32,961
People that shouldn’t be in this country up in the

989
00:35:33,161 –> 00:35:34,361
Roosevelt Hotel,

990
00:35:34,521 –> 00:35:37,401
getting their laundry done and culturally appropriate

991
00:35:38,201 –> 00:35:41,321
And you have hurting,

992
00:35:41,481 –> 00:35:43,481
sick men,

993
00:35:43,721 –> 00:35:46,361
violent men like just wandering around and you know

994
00:35:47,761 –> 00:35:48,881
Where’s the money supposed?

995
00:35:48,921 –> 00:35:50,281
That’s where the money supposed to go.

996
00:35:50,961 –> 00:35:52,281
When we call it the system,

997
00:35:52,921 –> 00:35:54,761
the system is supposed to be able to take care of

998
00:35:55,521 –> 00:35:57,641
That you and I can’t because it leads to what happened

999
00:35:57,641 –> 00:35:58,201
on the subway.

1000
00:35:58,441 –> 00:36:00,041
The system was supposed to intervene.

1001
00:36:00,121 –> 00:36:01,321
So that doesn’t happen.

1002
00:36:01,521 –> 00:36:02,361
And it failed.

1003
00:36:02,681 –> 00:36:06,041
And charges should have never been brought.

1004
00:36:07,321 –> 00:36:10,081
But there’s something very famous that happened in

1005
00:36:10,081 –> 00:36:10,481
New York.

1006
00:36:10,481 –> 00:36:11,561
And if you ever lived in New York,

1007
00:36:11,561 –> 00:36:12,161
you know about it.

1008
00:36:12,161 –> 00:36:14,561
And it was a woman named a bartender.

1009
00:36:14,561 –> 00:36:16,361
She’s 28 years old in 1964,

1010
00:36:16,601 –> 00:36:17,561
Kitty Genovese.

1011
00:36:18,041 –> 00:36:19,321
She goes home to Kew Gardens,

1012
00:36:19,321 –> 00:36:21,241
Queens, where my office used to be.

1013
00:36:22,521 –> 00:36:23,481
She’s raped.

1014
00:36:24,321 –> 00:36:27,801
And she stabbed to death and she’s screaming.

1015
00:36:29,401 –> 00:36:30,921
And nobody intervened.

1016
00:36:31,561 –> 00:36:32,441
Nobody intervened.

1017
00:36:32,761 –> 00:36:36,921
And nobody called the cops until they realized she

1018
00:36:36,921 –> 00:36:37,401
was dead.

1019
00:36:37,641 –> 00:36:41,561
This was a Now if you Google Kitty Genovese,

1020
00:36:41,561 –> 00:36:43,641
you’ll read through Wikipedia.

1021
00:36:44,361 –> 00:36:47,841
It wasn’t as monstrous the the people that turned away

1022
00:36:47,841 –> 00:36:49,761
as as once was believed,

1023
00:36:49,961 –> 00:36:52,041
but the general facts remain.

1024
00:36:52,561 –> 00:36:54,601
You heard you didn’t do anything.

1025
00:36:54,841 –> 00:36:59,401
It’s a great shame on New on New York.

1026
00:36:59,401 –> 00:37:04,201
It’s a great shame because the city is so alienating.

1027
00:37:04,201 –> 00:37:05,241
It’s not isolating.

1028
00:37:05,401 –> 00:37:06,761
LA is isolating,

1029
00:37:07,961 –> 00:37:11,161
and New York is the exact opposite.

1030
00:37:11,241 –> 00:37:13,881
It’s everybody’s on you and you pretend they’re not

1031
00:37:14,361 –> 00:37:15,481
And when you turn away,

1032
00:37:18,041 –> 00:37:19,481
you’re not a society anymore.

1033
00:37:20,481 –> 00:37:22,761
But can’t you say that almost about everything,

1034
00:37:22,761 –> 00:37:24,201
Charlie, is that we don’t.

1035
00:37:24,441 –> 00:37:26,761
We hear, we see people in need,

1036
00:37:26,761 –> 00:37:27,801
we see people in pain.

1037
00:37:27,801 –> 00:37:28,361
You talked about,

1038
00:37:28,681 –> 00:37:28,881
you know,

1039
00:37:28,881 –> 00:37:31,641
what’s going on in Lansing and nobody responds until

1040
00:37:31,641 –> 00:37:32,601
it’s sometimes too late.

1041
00:37:33,321 –> 00:37:36,121
I mean, that becomes almost like the order of the day.

1042
00:37:36,121 –> 00:37:37,801
See, it’s all the stuff stacking up,

1043
00:37:39,961 –> 00:37:42,921
The elected officials not doing the things for the

1044
00:37:42,921 –> 00:37:44,201
people who elected them,

1045
00:37:44,841 –> 00:37:46,361
doing favors for the very.

1046
00:37:47,041 –> 00:37:47,881
Well-oiled,

1047
00:37:48,041 –> 00:37:50,161
taking fucking peanuts for it.

1048
00:37:50,161 –> 00:37:52,281
Looking for a job after the fact.

1049
00:37:52,561 –> 00:37:54,361
When we’re dying out here,

1050
00:37:54,361 –> 00:37:55,641
the schools are awful.

1051
00:37:55,881 –> 00:37:57,001
Kids aren’t learning.

1052
00:37:57,401 –> 00:37:58,841
You’re lying about the crime.

1053
00:37:59,001 –> 00:38:01,921
And then we all turn away from each other.

1054
00:38:02,801 –> 00:38:05,641
And there’s no no signal how to come back from it.

1055
00:38:05,801 –> 00:38:07,881
So, you know,

1056
00:38:10,681 –> 00:38:11,401
we can do better.

1057
00:38:13,241 –> 00:38:13,961
We can do better.

1058
00:38:17,241 –> 00:38:20,681
I think maybe we’re starting to.

1059
00:38:21,721 –> 00:38:23,081
I think people have woken up.

1060
00:38:24,281 –> 00:38:25,841
Yeah, it’s not political.

1061
00:38:25,841 –> 00:38:27,401
Yeah, it shouldn’t be political,

1062
00:38:27,801 –> 00:38:29,721
It should be about human nature.

1063
00:38:30,041 –> 00:38:30,841
And I always say,

1064
00:38:30,841 –> 00:38:32,241
see a need and respond,

1065
00:38:32,721 –> 00:38:33,241
whatever.

1066
00:38:33,241 –> 00:38:34,201
It can be small,

1067
00:38:34,441 –> 00:38:35,401
it can be significant,

1068
00:38:35,401 –> 00:38:38,281
it can be within your space and area of comfort.

1069
00:38:38,761 –> 00:38:40,281
But we are all here together.

1070
00:38:40,441 –> 00:38:41,321
I mean, we really are.

1071
00:38:41,521 –> 00:38:42,521
And it’s not about,

1072
00:38:42,521 –> 00:38:43,961
well, I don’t know if I like that person.

1073
00:38:44,201 –> 00:38:46,241
I mean, because you could be on the other side of that

1074
00:38:46,241 –> 00:38:46,841
equation.

1075
00:38:47,161 –> 00:38:48,201
That’s what people forget.

1076
00:38:48,201 –> 00:38:49,481
At some point you’re the,

1077
00:38:49,801 –> 00:38:50,121
you know,

1078
00:38:50,121 –> 00:38:51,401
you’re on the other side of it.

1079
00:38:52,041 –> 00:38:53,041
And people want help then.

1080
00:38:53,041 –> 00:38:55,241
And then they want people to pay attention to your

1081
00:38:55,961 –> 00:38:57,761
Well, did you pay attention to those issues when they

1082
00:38:57,761 –> 00:38:59,081
were impacting somebody else?

1083
00:39:00,361 –> 00:39:02,681
Well, if you’re in need and you need a Kony kit,

1084
00:39:05,481 –> 00:39:06,001
wait, there’s a.

1085
00:39:08,521 –> 00:39:09,401
Comes with a prayer.

1086
00:39:11,481 –> 00:39:11,881
All right,

1087
00:39:12,921 –> 00:39:15,241
a word from our dear sponsor.

1088
00:39:15,241 –> 00:39:16,681
And then on the other side of this,

1089
00:39:18,041 –> 00:39:18,801
Woody Woodriff,

1090
00:39:18,801 –> 00:39:22,401
Fox 2 Sports Anchor giving us the Lions layout back

1091
00:39:22,401 –> 00:39:22,921
after this.

1092
00:39:31,827 –> 00:39:33,467
Dude, with everything!

1093
00:39:33,787 –> 00:39:35,387
Let’s have your cheese fries to go!

1094
00:39:35,747 –> 00:39:36,667
Ready, set,

1095
00:39:37,547 –> 00:39:38,667
go, Red, go!

1096
00:39:40,027 –> 00:39:42,227
Detroit might not make it to the championships,

1097
00:39:42,347 –> 00:39:44,547
but you can have a little bit of Detroit at your next

1098
00:39:44,547 –> 00:39:45,707
championship party.

1099
00:39:46,187 –> 00:39:47,427
American Coney Island,

1100
00:39:47,427 –> 00:39:49,467
12 dogs with all of fixin’.

1101
00:39:49,787 –> 00:39:51,467
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1102
00:39:51,627 –> 00:39:52,907
right to your door.

1103
00:39:53,067 –> 00:39:55,067
That includes Alaska and Hawaii.

1104
00:39:55,947 –> 00:39:57,587
Americanconeyisland.com.

1105
00:39:58,267 –> 00:39:58,747
The first,

1106
00:39:59,067 –> 00:39:59,747
the best,

1107
00:40:00,187 –> 00:40:01,547
and better than all the rest.

1108
00:40:01,947 –> 00:40:05,147
And they can’t fly either!

1109
00:40:08,507 –> 00:40:09,547
Yeah, baby,

1110
00:40:09,587 –> 00:40:10,587
I’m going to Vegas!

1111
00:40:10,587 –> 00:40:12,347
They got a Coney store there too,

1112
00:40:12,347 –> 00:40:13,347
yeah! Man,

1113
00:40:24,387 –> 00:40:25,547
that fucker’s a ham.

1114
00:40:27,947 –> 00:40:28,427
So anyway,

1115
00:40:28,427 –> 00:40:29,867
Speaking of subways,

1116
00:40:30,507 –> 00:40:31,547
New York City,

1117
00:40:33,867 –> 00:40:37,987
did you see Eli Manning in the in the Manning cast?

1118
00:40:37,987 –> 00:40:39,707
Yeah, I watch the Manning cast every week.

1119
00:40:39,707 –> 00:40:40,427
Yeah, I love it.

1120
00:40:40,427 –> 00:40:41,627
It’s my favorite show on TV.

1121
00:40:41,627 –> 00:40:42,427
Monday Night Football.

1122
00:40:42,427 –> 00:40:42,907
It really is.

1123
00:40:42,907 –> 00:40:43,507
Yeah, yeah,

1124
00:40:43,507 –> 00:40:44,027
I love it.

1125
00:40:44,027 –> 00:40:45,907
So but but he did say because we were talking about

1126
00:40:45,907 –> 00:40:48,627
Daniel Penny and how dangerous the subways are in

1127
00:40:48,627 –> 00:40:49,147
New York.

1128
00:40:49,147 –> 00:40:50,747
And I thought it was really interesting because Eli

1129
00:40:50,747 –> 00:40:53,227
gets roasted last week for posting a picture.

1130
00:40:54,387 –> 00:40:55,067
And he captioned it.

1131
00:40:55,067 –> 00:40:56,747
First time on the subway in New York,

1132
00:40:57,427 –> 00:40:58,187
which, you know,

1133
00:40:58,187 –> 00:41:00,987
he played for the Giants for like 12 years.

1134
00:41:00,987 –> 00:41:02,067
Yeah, yeah.

1135
00:41:02,067 –> 00:41:02,667
And he went,

1136
00:41:03,187 –> 00:41:04,267
never been on a subway.

1137
00:41:04,267 –> 00:41:05,507
No, it’s it’s ridiculous.

1138
00:41:05,507 –> 00:41:07,787
So he was getting roasted online and they addressed

1139
00:41:07,787 –> 00:41:09,267
it, which I thought this was pretty interesting.

1140
00:41:09,307 –> 00:41:11,027
Eli, this was very shocking to me.

1141
00:41:11,027 –> 00:41:12,587
I mean, I thought you were a man of the people.

1142
00:41:12,827 –> 00:41:14,507
You’ve lived there since 2004.

1143
00:41:14,507 –> 00:41:15,947
First time riding the subway.

1144
00:41:17,067 –> 00:41:18,107
I am a man of the people.

1145
00:41:18,107 –> 00:41:19,307
I I live in New Jersey.

1146
00:41:19,307 –> 00:41:20,667
I’m not in the city that often.

1147
00:41:20,667 –> 00:41:22,027
I was in the city last week.

1148
00:41:22,027 –> 00:41:23,867
I had to get from Uptown to downtown.

1149
00:41:23,867 –> 00:41:24,947
I I hopped on the subway.

1150
00:41:24,947 –> 00:41:26,267
I’m a man of the people.

1151
00:41:26,827 –> 00:41:29,227
It was a it was a it was in my contract when I was

1152
00:41:29,507 –> 00:41:30,867
I wasn’t allowed to ride the subway.

1153
00:41:30,867 –> 00:41:33,267
I could get like pushed in front of a train.

1154
00:41:33,347 –> 00:41:33,867
Is that right?

1155
00:41:33,987 –> 00:41:34,347
Is that right?

1156
00:41:34,547 –> 00:41:36,427
Kind of like no skiing,

1157
00:41:36,507 –> 00:41:37,227
no skiing,

1158
00:41:37,227 –> 00:41:38,107
no riding the subway,

1159
00:41:38,667 –> 00:41:39,787
no motorcycles,

1160
00:41:39,787 –> 00:41:41,267
no subway in New York.

1161
00:41:41,387 –> 00:41:43,827
That’s that’s that’s you gotta stay safe.

1162
00:41:45,867 –> 00:41:46,267
Interesting.

1163
00:41:46,587 –> 00:41:47,147
Interesting.

1164
00:41:47,147 –> 00:41:49,067
So with great pleasure,

1165
00:41:49,067 –> 00:41:51,387
I want to welcome in Woody Woodriff,

1166
00:41:51,387 –> 00:41:55,667
the anchor for Fox Sports Lions guy.

1167
00:41:55,667 –> 00:41:56,067
Hey, Woody,

1168
00:41:56,067 –> 00:41:56,427
how you doing,

1169
00:41:57,307 –> 00:41:58,707
I am fantastic,

1170
00:41:59,267 –> 00:41:59,787
And you know what?

1171
00:41:59,787 –> 00:42:03,067
I could see Eli Manning having that clause in his contract

1172
00:42:03,067 –> 00:42:05,627
where he could not get close to the trains or anything

1173
00:42:05,627 –> 00:42:07,987
like that because his career in New York was so bad,

1174
00:42:08,027 –> 00:42:09,947
someone would have pushed him in front of a train.

1175
00:42:11,747 –> 00:42:12,667
Dude, he got two.

1176
00:42:12,667 –> 00:42:13,787
He got two rings,

1177
00:42:13,947 –> 00:42:14,667
What are you talking about?

1178
00:42:14,667 –> 00:42:16,347
That guy’s boarded Line Hall of Fame.

1179
00:42:16,907 –> 00:42:17,947
I understand that.

1180
00:42:17,947 –> 00:42:18,427
But still,

1181
00:42:18,427 –> 00:42:20,827
if you utter the words Eli Manning in New York,

1182
00:42:20,827 –> 00:42:22,187
you’re still gonna get a oh man,

1183
00:42:24,427 –> 00:42:25,867
which begs the question,

1184
00:42:26,187 –> 00:42:28,427
since you know you’re like the Lion’s insider,

1185
00:42:29,107 –> 00:42:30,987
what’s what’s in those guys contracts?

1186
00:42:30,987 –> 00:42:34,507
Like you can’t ride the people mover or you can’t get

1187
00:42:34,507 –> 00:42:35,347
gas at night.

1188
00:42:35,347 –> 00:42:36,427
What’s in there?

1189
00:42:36,667 –> 00:42:37,307
The caveats,

1190
00:42:37,467 –> 00:42:37,707
you know,

1191
00:42:37,947 –> 00:42:40,507
I don’t know what’s in in some of those contracts,

1192
00:42:40,507 –> 00:42:43,547
but I will say that I remember last year CJ Gardner

1193
00:42:43,547 –> 00:42:45,867
Johnson, he was upset at a lot of the team.

1194
00:42:46,267 –> 00:42:49,227
Because they would not hang out downtown.

1195
00:42:49,307 –> 00:42:51,627
Apparently he said that the guys were scared to go

1196
00:42:51,627 –> 00:42:52,227
downtown.

1197
00:42:52,227 –> 00:42:53,427
And now I don’t,

1198
00:42:53,547 –> 00:42:54,667
I don’t see that at all.

1199
00:42:54,827 –> 00:42:56,187
But that’s what he said.

1200
00:42:56,427 –> 00:42:59,147
And he has now since moved on to the Philadelphia Eagles.

1201
00:42:59,227 –> 00:43:02,467
One of the guys he said who would go downtown was Jameson

1202
00:43:02,467 –> 00:43:02,907
Williams.

1203
00:43:02,907 –> 00:43:05,627
We all know about Jamo in the whole gun issue.

1204
00:43:06,667 –> 00:43:06,987
I’m right.

1205
00:43:07,067 –> 00:43:09,147
I’m a little surprised if they’re concerned about safety

1206
00:43:09,147 –> 00:43:11,027
that they let players carry guns.

1207
00:43:11,027 –> 00:43:13,467
Or is that something the the union fought for?

1208
00:43:14,507 –> 00:43:17,227
You know, I think that might be a union thing because

1209
00:43:17,227 –> 00:43:19,027
it has been true in the past.

1210
00:43:19,027 –> 00:43:21,987
I remember back in the day when they had Kevin Smith

1211
00:43:22,107 –> 00:43:22,987
as a running back,

1212
00:43:23,227 –> 00:43:23,547
you know,

1213
00:43:23,547 –> 00:43:27,867
he carried and was was no issue for anybody.

1214
00:43:27,867 –> 00:43:29,227
So I don’t see,

1215
00:43:29,787 –> 00:43:30,027
you know,

1216
00:43:30,027 –> 00:43:32,707
the league or the team having a problem with guys

1217
00:43:32,707 –> 00:43:33,467
who carry at all.

1218
00:43:33,707 –> 00:43:34,827
I mean, Karen carries,

1219
00:43:34,827 –> 00:43:35,347
so I mean,

1220
00:43:35,347 –> 00:43:37,067
I don’t, I don’t play for the Lions though.

1221
00:43:37,827 –> 00:43:39,107
Yeah, but you know,

1222
00:43:39,107 –> 00:43:41,547
but you’re bigger than the Lions and you know it.

1223
00:43:42,107 –> 00:43:43,147
I will say this though,

1224
00:43:43,147 –> 00:43:45,067
a lot of times when the guys are out,

1225
00:43:45,067 –> 00:43:46,427
they have people with them.

1226
00:43:46,587 –> 00:43:47,147
I mean, you know,

1227
00:43:47,147 –> 00:43:48,467
so it’s not like it’s just,

1228
00:43:48,467 –> 00:43:48,747
you know,

1229
00:43:49,667 –> 00:43:51,147
I mean, you know,

1230
00:43:51,387 –> 00:43:53,627
we, we know that he was out with his brother in that

1231
00:43:53,627 –> 00:43:55,307
incident and all that kind of stuff.

1232
00:43:55,307 –> 00:43:56,947
But I think that when the guys go out,

1233
00:43:56,947 –> 00:43:59,867
they do have some kind of personnel with them.

1234
00:44:00,907 –> 00:44:05,227
Ken was telling me that when the league cleaned up

1235
00:44:05,227 –> 00:44:07,467
the drunk driving issues because now anywhere,

1236
00:44:07,467 –> 00:44:11,387
is this true anywhere worldwide if you’re an NFL player?

1237
00:44:11,867 –> 00:44:14,187
There’s a number you can call and they’ll come get

1238
00:44:14,587 –> 00:44:15,067
Is that true?

1239
00:44:15,147 –> 00:44:15,787
It is true.

1240
00:44:16,027 –> 00:44:16,827
It is true.

1241
00:44:17,387 –> 00:44:18,427
That is so smart.

1242
00:44:19,787 –> 00:44:20,707
Well, it’s the perfect.

1243
00:44:20,707 –> 00:44:21,227
But again,

1244
00:44:21,467 –> 00:44:22,947
guys should have known that on their own.

1245
00:44:22,947 –> 00:44:23,627
Let’s be honest,

1246
00:44:23,627 –> 00:44:26,267
if I’m an NFL player and I want to go out,

1247
00:44:26,307 –> 00:44:26,987
I’m, you know,

1248
00:44:26,987 –> 00:44:28,227
I’ve got a car service.

1249
00:44:28,227 –> 00:44:29,667
I’ve got somebody driving me around.

1250
00:44:29,667 –> 00:44:30,907
I’m not, you know,

1251
00:44:30,907 –> 00:44:31,627
getting in my,

1252
00:44:32,187 –> 00:44:32,427
you know,

1253
00:44:32,427 –> 00:44:33,467
Ford Focus.

1254
00:44:33,707 –> 00:44:35,307
And driving down to the club,

1255
00:44:35,627 –> 00:44:37,227
hanging out and having a couple of drinks and then

1256
00:44:37,227 –> 00:44:37,907
driving home.

1257
00:44:37,907 –> 00:44:38,547
No, I’m having,

1258
00:44:38,587 –> 00:44:38,827
you know,

1259
00:44:38,827 –> 00:44:40,267
Jimmy drive me home,

1260
00:44:40,267 –> 00:44:41,947
who I hired as my driver.

1261
00:44:41,947 –> 00:44:42,667
You know what I’m saying?

1262
00:44:43,427 –> 00:44:44,867
I mean, cause let’s face it,

1263
00:44:44,867 –> 00:44:47,387
what’s the number one program in America?

1264
00:44:47,387 –> 00:44:48,267
Sunday Night Football,

1265
00:44:49,427 –> 00:44:51,947
I mean, these guys are the movie stars now.

1266
00:44:51,947 –> 00:44:52,787
They’re the movie stars,

1267
00:44:53,387 –> 00:44:54,347
They’re bigger than Hollywood.

1268
00:44:54,907 –> 00:44:56,427
So Speaking of which.

1269
00:44:57,467 –> 00:44:58,627
I mean, this town’s buzzing,

1270
00:44:58,907 –> 00:44:59,587
The Lions like,

1271
00:44:59,627 –> 00:44:59,787
you know,

1272
00:44:59,787 –> 00:45:02,187
12 and one 11 game-winning streak.

1273
00:45:02,187 –> 00:45:06,347
It’s the best season they’ve ever had if they can finish

1274
00:45:07,147 –> 00:45:08,867
So I’m asking you,

1275
00:45:09,507 –> 00:45:13,067
I mean, they got 4 rugged games coming,

1276
00:45:13,387 –> 00:45:14,187
They they really do.

1277
00:45:14,187 –> 00:45:15,947
You got Buffalo coming into town,

1278
00:45:16,107 –> 00:45:17,227
then you’ve got.

1279
00:45:17,787 –> 00:45:20,587
Chicago outdoors in Chicago.

1280
00:45:20,827 –> 00:45:23,307
Then you got the Niners fighting for their lives and

1281
00:45:23,307 –> 00:45:27,147
it all might come down to Minnesota coming into town.

1282
00:45:27,387 –> 00:45:28,187
And we got what,

1283
00:45:28,267 –> 00:45:32,427
eight guys on IR on on the D Do we got enough ponies

1284
00:45:32,667 –> 00:45:33,387
to get there?

1285
00:45:34,227 –> 00:45:35,947
Of course we have enough ponies to get there.

1286
00:45:35,947 –> 00:45:37,147
I’m not worried at all.

1287
00:45:37,227 –> 00:45:41,867
I mean, I would have thought that with 1617 guys,

1288
00:45:42,787 –> 00:45:46,187
1617 guys on the injured list last week that they

1289
00:45:46,187 –> 00:45:47,547
would not have stepped up.

1290
00:45:47,547 –> 00:45:48,507
But they did.

1291
00:45:48,747 –> 00:45:49,787
I mean, I can’t.

1292
00:45:49,867 –> 00:45:50,587
Look, I’m gonna,

1293
00:45:50,627 –> 00:45:51,867
I’m gonna turn this around to you,

1294
00:45:52,627 –> 00:45:54,187
What team do they lose to?

1295
00:45:54,667 –> 00:45:55,547
I don’t see it.

1296
00:45:55,627 –> 00:45:57,547
I don’t see them losing to the Bills.

1297
00:45:57,787 –> 00:45:59,067
I don’t see them losing to the Bears.

1298
00:45:59,067 –> 00:46:01,387
I don’t see them losing to the Niners or the Vikings.

1299
00:46:01,387 –> 00:46:02,267
And don’t forget.

1300
00:46:02,587 –> 00:46:04,987
The Vikings still have to play the Packers,

1301
00:46:05,227 –> 00:46:07,147
so there will be a battle there.

1302
00:46:07,147 –> 00:46:08,267
They could lose a little,

1303
00:46:08,787 –> 00:46:11,707
a little bit of momentum there and maybe the Lions,

1304
00:46:12,107 –> 00:46:12,427
you know,

1305
00:46:12,427 –> 00:46:14,347
seal it up before that last game.

1306
00:46:14,347 –> 00:46:14,827
Who knows?

1307
00:46:14,827 –> 00:46:15,067
We’ll see.

1308
00:46:15,067 –> 00:46:15,627
But this is the,

1309
00:46:15,787 –> 00:46:17,067
this is the NFL.

1310
00:46:18,027 –> 00:46:18,867
And I’m just,

1311
00:46:18,867 –> 00:46:19,067
you know,

1312
00:46:19,067 –> 00:46:19,507
look, man,

1313
00:46:19,507 –> 00:46:21,307
I’m 59 going to be 59.

1314
00:46:22,547 –> 00:46:23,027
Happy birthday.

1315
00:46:23,227 –> 00:46:23,627
Thank you.

1316
00:46:23,627 –> 00:46:24,427
Well, it’s in March,

1317
00:46:24,427 –> 00:46:25,947
so OK, well,

1318
00:46:26,147 –> 00:46:27,307
I’ll write that down too.

1319
00:46:27,307 –> 00:46:29,387
20 bucks and a happy birthday.

1320
00:46:32,147 –> 00:46:33,147
You’re a kind man.

1321
00:46:34,507 –> 00:46:35,227
So, Woody.

1322
00:46:36,827 –> 00:46:38,067
Look, just look at it this way.

1323
00:46:38,387 –> 00:46:40,907
Just no, I do not bet because I don’t like to lose.

1324
00:46:41,787 –> 00:46:42,267
We, you know,

1325
00:46:42,347 –> 00:46:45,867
I will play like a like a DraftKings every once in

1326
00:46:46,347 –> 00:46:48,427
That’s what I was wondering cause you kind of so your

1327
00:46:48,427 –> 00:46:51,587
knowledge doesn’t doesn’t qualify as insider trading

1328
00:46:52,347 –> 00:46:54,227
No, no, no it it it does not.

1329
00:46:54,227 –> 00:46:55,387
But I don’t.

1330
00:46:55,387 –> 00:46:57,267
I don’t really bet on a regular basis.

1331
00:46:57,267 –> 00:46:58,027
So I mean,

1332
00:46:58,027 –> 00:46:59,547
but I will give people,

1333
00:46:59,627 –> 00:46:59,867
you know,

1334
00:46:59,867 –> 00:47:03,067
tips and help them if they like to bet and tips like

1335
00:47:03,107 –> 00:47:03,947
what we’re listening.

1336
00:47:05,947 –> 00:47:09,787
Tips like tips like don’t look at the next four games,

1337
00:47:09,947 –> 00:47:12,107
just look at the next game in front of you because

1338
00:47:12,107 –> 00:47:12,907
that’s all you can do.

1339
00:47:12,907 –> 00:47:14,507
You can’t win four games at once.

1340
00:47:14,827 –> 00:47:16,227
So just try to win the next game.

1341
00:47:16,227 –> 00:47:18,187
And that’s what this Lions team has done.

1342
00:47:18,547 –> 00:47:20,587
All they’ve done is look at the next week,

1343
00:47:20,907 –> 00:47:21,627
the next week,

1344
00:47:21,707 –> 00:47:23,227
the next week and look where we are.

1345
00:47:23,427 –> 00:47:24,587
11 wins in a row,

1346
00:47:24,747 –> 00:47:28,307
12 and one on top of the NFC and the on top of the

1347
00:47:28,907 –> 00:47:29,387
Best team,

1348
00:47:29,707 –> 00:47:31,947
the best team in the NFL in my opinion.

1349
00:47:32,667 –> 00:47:34,827
So you’re saying take the over against Buffalo?

1350
00:47:35,147 –> 00:47:38,747
Look, you know what I was for a while I was giving

1351
00:47:38,747 –> 00:47:43,587
out a my best college tip and it was bet Miami and

1352
00:47:43,587 –> 00:47:46,987
take the over every game because the games were putting

1353
00:47:46,987 –> 00:47:47,787
up forty-five,

1354
00:47:47,787 –> 00:47:50,187
forty-six points a game just on their own.

1355
00:47:50,347 –> 00:47:52,347
So if you want to bet the Lions,

1356
00:47:53,227 –> 00:47:53,467
you know,

1357
00:47:53,467 –> 00:47:54,987
look, feel free,

1358
00:47:54,987 –> 00:47:55,867
bet up to win,

1359
00:47:56,507 –> 00:47:56,827
you know,

1360
00:47:56,827 –> 00:47:57,787
do whatever you want.

1361
00:47:58,907 –> 00:48:02,107
Yeah, I am not afraid of anybody on the Lions schedule

1362
00:48:02,107 –> 00:48:03,547
or I’m not afraid of,

1363
00:48:03,947 –> 00:48:04,187
you know,

1364
00:48:04,187 –> 00:48:05,667
injuries or anything else like that.

1365
00:48:05,707 –> 00:48:06,907
Look at what Dan Campbell has done.

1366
00:48:06,907 –> 00:48:08,627
These guys have come off other guys,

1367
00:48:08,627 –> 00:48:11,867
practice squads and all this stuff and fit right in,

1368
00:48:12,027 –> 00:48:13,147
fit right in.

1369
00:48:13,467 –> 00:48:16,267
So yeah, it’s great to see and I’m looking for more

1370
00:48:16,427 –> 00:48:18,187
cause it’s it’s a cult like I just,

1371
00:48:18,187 –> 00:48:18,507
you know,

1372
00:48:18,507 –> 00:48:19,427
you’re right about that.

1373
00:48:19,427 –> 00:48:20,827
I’m just gonna enjoy each game,

1374
00:48:20,987 –> 00:48:21,227
you know,

1375
00:48:21,227 –> 00:48:23,427
but 59 like this is 50,

1376
00:48:24,027 –> 00:48:25,867
OK with my real consciousness,

1377
00:48:25,867 –> 00:48:27,707
50 years of.

1378
00:48:28,987 –> 00:48:31,787
Sunday put on the Lions.

1379
00:48:32,027 –> 00:48:32,907
They lose.

1380
00:48:33,147 –> 00:48:34,587
60 minutes is over.

1381
00:48:34,827 –> 00:48:37,747
It’s Monday over and over.

1382
00:48:37,747 –> 00:48:38,347
And you know something?

1383
00:48:38,347 –> 00:48:39,787
I’m kind of ramped up about this.

1384
00:48:39,787 –> 00:48:40,747
You know, it’s depressing.

1385
00:48:40,907 –> 00:48:41,867
Yeah, you you should be.

1386
00:48:41,947 –> 00:48:43,547
You should be ramped up about this,

1387
00:48:43,547 –> 00:48:45,067
Charlie, because let’s be honest,

1388
00:48:45,147 –> 00:48:48,507
I’m not carrying 50 years of baggage into this year’s

1389
00:48:49,307 –> 00:48:51,147
It’s different than it was 50 years ago.

1390
00:48:51,147 –> 00:48:52,507
It’s different than when Barry played.

1391
00:48:52,667 –> 00:48:54,347
It’s different than when Billy Sims played.

1392
00:48:54,507 –> 00:48:56,307
It’s different than when Dexter Bussey played.

1393
00:48:56,307 –> 00:48:57,227
It’s different when then,

1394
00:48:57,387 –> 00:48:57,707
you know,

1395
00:48:57,947 –> 00:48:58,987
Joe Schmidt played.

1396
00:48:59,307 –> 00:49:00,907
I mean, this is right now.

1397
00:49:01,066 –> 00:49:03,946
We can’t do anything about 0 and 16 or any of that

1398
00:49:03,946 –> 00:49:05,466
other crap from years past.

1399
00:49:05,466 –> 00:49:10,186
It’s all about 12 and one and you got Buffalo on Sunday

1400
00:49:10,986 –> 00:49:12,666
You know, it’s it’s not that different though,

1401
00:49:12,666 –> 00:49:14,706
from when Patricia and Quinn were here.

1402
00:49:14,706 –> 00:49:16,266
I mean, it’s just a few years ago.

1403
00:49:16,506 –> 00:49:17,946
And from everything I’ve heard,

1404
00:49:18,106 –> 00:49:20,106
pretty awful front office,

1405
00:49:20,106 –> 00:49:21,706
pretty awful locker room.

1406
00:49:22,626 –> 00:49:24,426
I mean, how drastic is the change now?

1407
00:49:24,426 –> 00:49:26,666
I mean, everything we hear about Campbell is just rosy.

1408
00:49:26,666 –> 00:49:28,306
Is that are we being misled?

1409
00:49:28,306 –> 00:49:29,146
It’s totally different.

1410
00:49:29,546 –> 00:49:30,426
It’s totally different.

1411
00:49:30,426 –> 00:49:31,786
And you’re not being misled.

1412
00:49:31,946 –> 00:49:34,586
I mean, you have right now,

1413
00:49:34,586 –> 00:49:37,466
or I should say we have right now in the Lions brain

1414
00:49:37,466 –> 00:49:40,666
trust, one of the one of the best that has ever been

1415
00:49:40,666 –> 00:49:41,306
put together.

1416
00:49:41,306 –> 00:49:42,226
I mean, let’s be honest,

1417
00:49:42,346 –> 00:49:45,946
Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell are not getting guys

1418
00:49:45,946 –> 00:49:46,906
who are, you know,

1419
00:49:47,066 –> 00:49:48,106
the best players,

1420
00:49:48,106 –> 00:49:48,786
let’s be honest.

1421
00:49:48,786 –> 00:49:51,226
They’re getting guys who are the best fit for what

1422
00:49:51,226 –> 00:49:52,186
they want to do.

1423
00:49:52,266 –> 00:49:54,986
And that’s how these guys are coming off the street

1424
00:49:54,986 –> 00:49:56,186
and stepping right in.

1425
00:49:56,346 –> 00:49:59,066
And performing at a high level because they’re a fit

1426
00:49:59,066 –> 00:50:00,906
for what they need them to do.

1427
00:50:01,146 –> 00:50:02,226
And that’s perfect.

1428
00:50:02,346 –> 00:50:03,226
It’s not about,

1429
00:50:03,226 –> 00:50:03,546
you know,

1430
00:50:04,346 –> 00:50:05,066
It’s not about,

1431
00:50:05,066 –> 00:50:06,746
oh, this guy is the best or that.

1432
00:50:06,746 –> 00:50:08,426
No, he fits what we do.

1433
00:50:08,586 –> 00:50:10,666
So we’re going to use him and he’s going to step up.

1434
00:50:10,746 –> 00:50:11,466
And so far,

1435
00:50:11,626 –> 00:50:13,626
that’s what we’re seeing with almost everybody who

1436
00:50:13,626 –> 00:50:14,746
they brought into play.

1437
00:50:15,266 –> 00:50:17,346
Well, let me give you my perspective from not necessarily

1438
00:50:17,346 –> 00:50:18,266
a football fan,

1439
00:50:18,666 –> 00:50:19,426
but I I mean,

1440
00:50:19,946 –> 00:50:23,426
But I I look at Dan Campbell and he has a bravado and

1441
00:50:23,426 –> 00:50:26,906
an energy and a presence to me that plays into the

1442
00:50:26,906 –> 00:50:30,906
mentality necessary to play a game as abrasive as

1443
00:50:30,906 –> 00:50:31,466
football.

1444
00:50:31,666 –> 00:50:33,866
When I look at him and I look at Matt Patricia,

1445
00:50:34,506 –> 00:50:34,906
you know,

1446
00:50:34,906 –> 00:50:36,986
Dan Campbell looks like a football player.

1447
00:50:36,986 –> 00:50:40,386
He he has such a different approach to me that I think

1448
00:50:40,386 –> 00:50:43,386
transitions into a different attitude from the players.

1449
00:50:43,866 –> 00:50:45,066
I would agree.

1450
00:50:45,226 –> 00:50:46,506
No, no, I would agree with that,

1451
00:50:46,826 –> 00:50:47,546
But The thing is,

1452
00:50:47,546 –> 00:50:48,426
it’s not that he’s,

1453
00:50:48,426 –> 00:50:48,666
you know,

1454
00:50:48,666 –> 00:50:49,946
smarter than anybody else.

1455
00:50:50,186 –> 00:50:53,146
He has a vision and you can see his vision.

1456
00:50:53,186 –> 00:50:55,706
I mean, you could not really see Matt Patricia’s vision.

1457
00:50:55,946 –> 00:50:58,026
You really couldn’t see Rod Marinelli’s vision.

1458
00:50:58,066 –> 00:51:00,466
Dan Campbell looks like he’s in shape.

1459
00:51:00,506 –> 00:51:01,946
Oh, no doubt,

1460
00:51:02,186 –> 00:51:02,506
no doubt.

1461
00:51:02,626 –> 00:51:03,946
I mean, as a as a former,

1462
00:51:03,946 –> 00:51:04,986
you know,

1463
00:51:05,066 –> 00:51:10,186
yes, he has maintained his his physique,

1464
00:51:10,186 –> 00:51:10,906
so to say,

1465
00:51:11,146 –> 00:51:12,826
and he’s out there with the guys.

1466
00:51:13,306 –> 00:51:15,146
He’s, he’s,

1467
00:51:16,026 –> 00:51:17,226
he’s one of the guys out there.

1468
00:51:17,226 –> 00:51:19,826
He’s doing the up downs just like the players and all

1469
00:51:19,826 –> 00:51:20,106
that stuff.

1470
00:51:20,826 –> 00:51:23,386
And that’s why that’s why they run through the wall

1471
00:51:23,386 –> 00:51:25,666
for him, because he is a player’s coach.

1472
00:51:25,706 –> 00:51:26,426
Speaking of which,

1473
00:51:26,506 –> 00:51:27,946
they see him as a player,

1474
00:51:28,026 –> 00:51:29,066
Speaking of which,

1475
00:51:29,466 –> 00:51:32,986
it’s not said enough that defense,

1476
00:51:33,306 –> 00:51:34,346
This is a culture deal.

1477
00:51:34,346 –> 00:51:35,466
This why they’re busted up.

1478
00:51:35,946 –> 00:51:37,466
They fucking hit.

1479
00:51:38,186 –> 00:51:40,146
I mean, you can hear it through the TV screen.

1480
00:51:40,146 –> 00:51:42,106
They fucking hit.

1481
00:51:42,746 –> 00:51:43,626
Yes, they do.

1482
00:51:43,626 –> 00:51:44,386
But I don’t.

1483
00:51:44,426 –> 00:51:47,066
I don’t buy into that narrative that practice is too

1484
00:51:47,066 –> 00:51:48,986
tough and guys are getting injured at,

1485
00:51:49,066 –> 00:51:49,386
you know,

1486
00:51:49,546 –> 00:51:50,466
because it’s too tough.

1487
00:51:50,466 –> 00:51:51,946
No, but they do hit.

1488
00:51:51,946 –> 00:51:55,146
Brian Branch is a missile in the secondary when he

1489
00:51:55,146 –> 00:51:55,746
comes up.

1490
00:51:56,026 –> 00:51:58,666
Kirby Joseph is a missile in the secondary when he

1491
00:51:58,666 –> 00:51:59,146
comes up.

1492
00:51:59,386 –> 00:52:02,666
Jack Campbell at linebacker is stepping up in a big

1493
00:52:03,066 –> 00:52:03,626
And you know what?

1494
00:52:03,626 –> 00:52:04,506
Here’s the other thing.

1495
00:52:04,746 –> 00:52:06,746
And Mark, you probably know this as well.

1496
00:52:06,906 –> 00:52:08,746
The Lions each day.

1497
00:52:08,986 –> 00:52:11,466
Are getting healthier as they get back.

1498
00:52:11,466 –> 00:52:14,306
So we may even see Alex Anzaloni at the end of the

1499
00:52:14,306 –> 00:52:15,786
year ready for the playoffs.

1500
00:52:15,786 –> 00:52:18,666
We may see some of these guys stepping back into their

1501
00:52:19,066 –> 00:52:21,546
And then when you throw in the guys they have currently

1502
00:52:21,546 –> 00:52:22,066
now playing,

1503
00:52:22,346 –> 00:52:23,626
that means added depth.

1504
00:52:23,906 –> 00:52:26,386
And that could be the mean that the Sky’s the limit

1505
00:52:26,386 –> 00:52:28,626
for this team when the playoffs roll around.

1506
00:52:28,906 –> 00:52:30,906
Let me tell you about that O and 16 season though.

1507
00:52:30,906 –> 00:52:31,986
This is why it broke my heart.

1508
00:52:33,226 –> 00:52:34,746
I had just gotten into town,

1509
00:52:35,226 –> 00:52:37,666
And it was the 75th.

1510
00:52:38,266 –> 00:52:41,466
Year anniversary of the Lions and the 40 year anniversary

1511
00:52:41,546 –> 00:52:44,906
of the book Paper Lion by George Plimpton where he

1512
00:52:44,906 –> 00:52:46,666
goes through a pre-season where he’s a writer.

1513
00:52:46,666 –> 00:52:47,146
He’s, you know,

1514
00:52:47,146 –> 00:52:48,346
it’s great book,

1515
00:52:48,666 –> 00:52:50,506
really great classic book.

1516
00:52:50,746 –> 00:52:52,186
And I went to go see Matt Millen,

1517
00:52:52,346 –> 00:52:52,666
you know,

1518
00:52:52,906 –> 00:52:57,466
Detroit News writer and the culture in there was,

1519
00:52:57,466 –> 00:52:59,346
it just reeked of losing.

1520
00:52:59,346 –> 00:53:00,346
It just, it really did.

1521
00:53:00,346 –> 00:53:01,066
It was glum.

1522
00:53:01,066 –> 00:53:01,946
It just it reeked.

1523
00:53:02,106 –> 00:53:04,346
But Millen was really cool to me and I said,

1524
00:53:04,346 –> 00:53:05,066
hey, how about,

1525
00:53:05,066 –> 00:53:05,226
you know,

1526
00:53:05,226 –> 00:53:06,266
for the anniversary?

1527
00:53:06,906 –> 00:53:10,026
I do the Paper Lion redo and he goes,

1528
00:53:10,026 –> 00:53:12,106
well, there’s new rules now in the pre-season.

1529
00:53:12,106 –> 00:53:13,466
There’s still a roster limit,

1530
00:53:13,626 –> 00:53:16,026
but you can come to rookie camp.

1531
00:53:16,706 –> 00:53:17,146
And I’m like,

1532
00:53:17,186 –> 00:53:18,986
I’m going to fucking rookie camp.

1533
00:53:19,266 –> 00:53:20,666
I’m going to fucking rookie.

1534
00:53:21,666 –> 00:53:23,666
And then they went on in 16 and got fired and I never

1535
00:53:23,666 –> 00:53:24,546
got to do the rookie camp.

1536
00:53:24,546 –> 00:53:26,426
Oh, well, hey,

1537
00:53:26,426 –> 00:53:28,386
look, they did go four and O that preseason.

1538
00:53:28,666 –> 00:53:29,306
It’s true.

1539
00:53:29,586 –> 00:53:30,826
They were undefeated that year.

1540
00:53:30,826 –> 00:53:33,226
The encyclopedia known as Woody Woodruff,

1541
00:53:33,546 –> 00:53:35,226
Fox 2 Sports Anchor.

1542
00:53:36,506 –> 00:53:37,426
Really great to see you,

1543
00:53:37,786 –> 00:53:41,266
It’s it’s nice to see you in a happy sports moment

1544
00:53:41,266 –> 00:53:43,346
in this town cause it’s just been dark so long.

1545
00:53:43,346 –> 00:53:44,746
And you know what?

1546
00:53:44,826 –> 00:53:47,106
The Lions aren’t the only team that’s trending up.

1547
00:53:47,106 –> 00:53:48,066
Think about the Pistons.

1548
00:53:48,066 –> 00:53:50,186
They’re also trending the right way.

1549
00:53:50,186 –> 00:53:53,386
They only won 14 games last year and already they have

1550
00:53:53,386 –> 00:53:54,346
won nine.

1551
00:53:54,986 –> 00:53:58,106
Dude, they’re in the bottom five of the Eastern Conference.

1552
00:53:58,146 –> 00:53:59,346
I’m not buying that.

1553
00:53:59,346 –> 00:54:01,146
Do not be surprised.

1554
00:54:01,266 –> 00:54:04,906
Do not be surprised if the Detroit Pistons may be sniffing

1555
00:54:04,906 –> 00:54:08,066
that while that last playoff spot in the East at the

1556
00:54:08,066 –> 00:54:08,586
end of the year.

1557
00:54:08,586 –> 00:54:09,706
Do not be surprised.

1558
00:54:09,866 –> 00:54:11,386
Yeah, but I don’t even get the playoffs.

1559
00:54:11,386 –> 00:54:13,466
You mean the play in like you’re in 10th place.

1560
00:54:13,466 –> 00:54:15,706
Your 10th place is something to get excited about.

1561
00:54:16,706 –> 00:54:17,546
Look, you know what?

1562
00:54:17,546 –> 00:54:20,186
After a team that only won 14 games last year,

1563
00:54:20,186 –> 00:54:21,746
that is something to get excited about.

1564
00:54:21,826 –> 00:54:22,306
Yes, it is.

1565
00:54:22,466 –> 00:54:24,186
That is trending in the right direction.

1566
00:54:24,586 –> 00:54:25,266
And the Red Wings.

1567
00:54:25,266 –> 00:54:26,426
And the Red Wings.

1568
00:54:27,146 –> 00:54:29,426
Well, we got a little more work to do on that end.

1569
00:54:29,506 –> 00:54:32,426
I mean, guys are starting to call for Steve Eiserman’s

1570
00:54:33,066 –> 00:54:34,266
And you know,

1571
00:54:34,266 –> 00:54:36,186
and and maybe rightly so,

1572
00:54:36,186 –> 00:54:37,386
because it’s been,

1573
00:54:37,386 –> 00:54:40,026
what, six years now that we’ve been looking at this

1574
00:54:40,666 –> 00:54:42,266
And I remember when Ken Holland left,

1575
00:54:42,266 –> 00:54:43,786
he said a rebuild takes 10 years.

1576
00:54:43,786 –> 00:54:44,346
And we were saying,

1577
00:54:44,586 –> 00:54:45,506
Oh no, it doesn’t.

1578
00:54:45,506 –> 00:54:46,186
Oh, no way.

1579
00:54:46,786 –> 00:54:50,506
Apparently he may be right because we’re on year six

1580
00:54:50,506 –> 00:54:53,226
and we’re starting to see calls for Derek Lalone’s

1581
00:54:53,866 –> 00:54:55,946
We’re starting to see calls for Steve Eiserman’s head.

1582
00:54:55,946 –> 00:54:57,946
I don’t know where the answers are going to come from

1583
00:54:58,186 –> 00:54:59,066
with the hockey team,

1584
00:54:59,066 –> 00:55:01,946
but let’s just stick with the Eiser plan,

1585
00:55:02,826 –> 00:55:03,746
Because, I mean,

1586
00:55:03,866 –> 00:55:04,106
you know,

1587
00:55:04,106 –> 00:55:04,746
that was the problem.

1588
00:55:04,746 –> 00:55:05,866
You may not be able to.

1589
00:55:06,026 –> 00:55:08,546
That was the problem until this last decade.

1590
00:55:08,546 –> 00:55:10,586
Here’s a merry-go-round of the rebuild,

1591
00:55:10,586 –> 00:55:11,386
the Tigers,

1592
00:55:11,386 –> 00:55:12,266
the Lions,

1593
00:55:12,266 –> 00:55:12,906
the, you know,

1594
00:55:13,386 –> 00:55:14,426
stay the course.

1595
00:55:15,746 –> 00:55:16,066
You know what,

1596
00:55:16,066 –> 00:55:17,706
Charlie, let me ask you a question right here.

1597
00:55:17,706 –> 00:55:19,226
I see it a lot with this,

1598
00:55:19,386 –> 00:55:22,426
with the teams in this town when they bring back former

1599
00:55:22,426 –> 00:55:25,306
players to be managers or front office people.

1600
00:55:25,626 –> 00:55:28,586
And it always seems to tarnish their playing legacy.

1601
00:55:28,906 –> 00:55:29,466
You know what I mean?

1602
00:55:29,466 –> 00:55:30,746
Like when Alan Trammell,

1603
00:55:31,466 –> 00:55:31,706
you know,

1604
00:55:31,706 –> 00:55:32,546
played for the Tigers,

1605
00:55:32,546 –> 00:55:33,466
he was fantastic.

1606
00:55:33,466 –> 00:55:34,826
But when he was the manager,

1607
00:55:35,066 –> 00:55:36,266
you ran him out of town.

1608
00:55:36,506 –> 00:55:38,426
You know, Phil Garner was a great player,

1609
00:55:38,426 –> 00:55:39,386
but when he was a manager,

1610
00:55:39,386 –> 00:55:40,186
he ran him out of town.

1611
00:55:40,186 –> 00:55:41,066
Joe Dumars,

1612
00:55:41,306 –> 00:55:42,106
a great player.

1613
00:55:42,106 –> 00:55:42,946
But when he was the,

1614
00:55:43,306 –> 00:55:43,626
you know,

1615
00:55:43,746 –> 00:55:45,306
when he was the boss of the Pistons.

1616
00:55:46,066 –> 00:55:48,506
Even though he delivered titles,

1617
00:55:48,986 –> 00:55:51,226
Even though he delivered titles and they ran him out

1618
00:55:51,626 –> 00:55:53,226
So even with Steve Eiserman,

1619
00:55:53,346 –> 00:55:53,946
I’m looking at,

1620
00:55:54,106 –> 00:55:56,986
is this the end game that we’re going to see with

1621
00:55:56,986 –> 00:55:58,906
Steve Eiserman where he gets run out of town?

1622
00:55:58,906 –> 00:55:59,426
I don’t know.

1623
00:55:59,426 –> 00:55:59,866
Wait a minute,

1624
00:55:59,866 –> 00:56:00,506
wait a minute.

1625
00:56:00,586 –> 00:56:03,546
The the Dawn is breaking on that one too,

1626
00:56:03,546 –> 00:56:08,666
because Dan Campbell was a Detroit Lions and remember

1627
00:56:08,746 –> 00:56:10,986
there there were very loud calls from.

1628
00:56:14,986 –> 00:56:18,226
Well, that is true.

1629
00:56:18,906 –> 00:56:21,386
But you know what?

1630
00:56:21,386 –> 00:56:24,546
If he if he does turn in with a Super Bowl victory,

1631
00:56:24,546 –> 00:56:25,906
I think that wipes the slate clean,

1632
00:56:25,906 –> 00:56:26,226
doesn’t it?

1633
00:56:26,346 –> 00:56:26,906
Yeah, it does,

1634
00:56:27,786 –> 00:56:28,506
Yeah, probably a statue.

1635
00:56:29,786 –> 00:56:32,346
He might have a statue right next to Barry.

1636
00:56:32,346 –> 00:56:34,826
Do we have a picture of Woody at the.

1637
00:56:35,946 –> 00:56:38,306
Yeah, I can put it up later.

1638
00:56:38,386 –> 00:56:40,186
Oh, you mean at the benefit?

1639
00:56:40,666 –> 00:56:41,706
Yeah, Killer’s Christmas,

1640
00:56:42,146 –> 00:56:44,026
I was dressed as a snowman.

1641
00:56:44,746 –> 00:56:46,026
That is a great costume.

1642
00:56:46,306 –> 00:56:48,986
Yeah, we had a lot of fun.

1643
00:56:49,226 –> 00:56:50,226
Dude, I’m telling you,

1644
00:56:50,226 –> 00:56:52,666
this town is so much richer for having you here.

1645
00:56:53,426 –> 00:56:54,186
We appreciate that.

1646
00:56:54,186 –> 00:56:55,146
Really love and respect you,

1647
00:56:56,546 –> 00:56:57,546
You know, I try to just,

1648
00:56:57,946 –> 00:56:58,186
you know,

1649
00:56:58,186 –> 00:57:01,066
do what I do and give it to people straight.

1650
00:57:01,186 –> 00:57:01,946
I’m not really a,

1651
00:57:02,186 –> 00:57:02,426
you know,

1652
00:57:02,466 –> 00:57:04,026
a shtick guy where it’s like,

1653
00:57:04,386 –> 00:57:06,906
I’ll show you some video on Tuesdays and Wednesdays

1654
00:57:06,906 –> 00:57:09,266
like a former guy around here used to do.

1655
00:57:09,266 –> 00:57:11,626
But we just try to play it straight,

1656
00:57:11,626 –> 00:57:11,946
you know?

1657
00:57:11,946 –> 00:57:14,186
And Dan Miller and Jennifer Hammond and myself,

1658
00:57:14,186 –> 00:57:15,386
we we had a good team.

1659
00:57:15,386 –> 00:57:17,226
I can’t believe it’s been the best sports crew around,

1660
00:57:18,346 –> 00:57:19,226
Twenty-six years,

1661
00:57:19,546 –> 00:57:19,986
It’s crazy.

1662
00:57:21,586 –> 00:57:22,426
Yeah, I got one.

1663
00:57:22,506 –> 00:57:23,146
Never mind.

1664
00:57:23,386 –> 00:57:23,706
All right,

1665
00:57:25,586 –> 00:57:26,226
We’ll see you later,

1666
00:57:26,466 –> 00:57:27,226
Thanks for the time.

1667
00:57:27,386 –> 00:57:27,746
All right,

1668
00:57:28,146 –> 00:57:28,906
Good to see you.

1669
00:57:29,386 –> 00:57:29,866
Nice to see you,

1670
00:57:30,106 –> 00:57:30,906
Happy holidays.

1671
00:57:31,226 –> 00:57:31,786
Merry Christmas,

1672
00:57:32,186 –> 00:57:32,986
Everybody out there.

1673
00:57:33,386 –> 00:57:33,986
I appreciate it.

1674
00:57:33,986 –> 00:57:34,346
Thanks, Woody.

1675
00:57:34,586 –> 00:57:35,146
And that’s it.

1676
00:57:35,506 –> 00:57:37,306
And we’ll see you next week.

1677
00:57:37,306 –> 00:57:38,146
All right.

1678
00:57:38,146 –> 00:57:38,346
All right.

1679
00:57:38,746 –> 00:57:39,466
Go, Lions.

1680
00:58:27,546 –> 00:58:28,026
Look at him,

1681
00:58:28,026 –> 00:58:28,826
need Bobby get it,

1682
00:58:29,386 –> 00:58:29,666
you know.

1683
00:58:33,666 –> 00:58:34,666
I forgot my burners.

 

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